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Old 18-12-2010, 22:21
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Len-
Cranky like a small child fighting for attention!! His prejudices against the choreography overshadowed his comments on the actual dancing;

Bruno -
His usual self but very gracious and encouraging remarks - giving his final report to the three finalists.

Craig -
Having a ball, being really nice - but picky and still refusing that 9 for the rumba - did he have an inkling or was he planning the 10 for Kara's showdance?

Alesha -
Not only looking good but sounding good, and her remarks were great - well received by the contestants, and I think she has earned her spot as a permanent judge on Strictly.
OK she was marking high tonight, but so were Craig and Brunor - about par for the Finals night.

Next year - Crag for head judge, please.
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Old 18-12-2010, 22:25
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The contestants performed new dances in the Final for the first time ever. Matt's Paso just looked a bit odd to me and Kara's Waltz wasn't perfect. Are the judges expected to lose all objectivity in the Final

It's Artem's fault that Kara didn't receive better scores in her Rumba and AS; they should have made changes, but they didn't.
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Old 18-12-2010, 22:28
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Far too many tens. Even Craig broke his golden rule as the dance was not seemingly technically correct.
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Old 18-12-2010, 22:43
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Strictly has been ruined by the judges this year, sadly they seem to believe the show is all about them.
Len, Grumpy and not consistant. Had clear favourites all the way through.
Aleasia, Why?
Bruno,Look at me, look at me. Another with clear favourites.
Craig, Did well for so long then blew it during the final.
Please BBC don't spoil your flagship show, clear out the judges table and maybe next year have a panel of six (none of this years please) and use any four from the six each week.
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Old 18-12-2010, 22:47
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I agree the judges didnt appear in the best of moods but I think they actually perform a useful role and I agreed with most of the comments tonight

I would like to see Craig as head judge if Len retires, be interesting to see who would get the judge vacancy though
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Old 18-12-2010, 22:49
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Their negativity ruined the show for me tonight. Poor show.
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:01
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Their negativity ruined the show for me tonight. Poor show.
The fact was the dances werent perfect tonight - and it is the judges role to judge ...
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:08
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Let's be fair, the judges (I call them "The Village People" they are such extreme characters), are there for a purpose and do it well.
Cause controversy, get the public going, get reactions from the competitors because of some of the ridiculous marking, etc., etc.,

To the BBC, it's a "show" first and anything else a poor second.
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:11
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Let's be fair, the judges (I call them "The Village People" they are such extreme characters), are there for a purpose and do it well.
Cause controversy, get the public going, get reactions from the competitors because of some of the ridiculous marking, etc., etc.,

To the BBC, it's a "show" first and anything else a poor second.
To make any programme like this work then there needs to be a mentality from the production team that it is an event ... that is something the BBC do incredibly well with SCD

The judges make it exciting and bring both a sense of controversy, gravitas and excitement about it. They all (to one extent or another) have experience of dance and are able to make opinions - often on an informed basis ...

That said, ultimately it is a public vote, not a strict dance competition (if it was then the judgement would be solely that of judges) and it is an entertainment show
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:11
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The fact was the dances werent perfect tonight - and it is the judges role to judge ...
True , and if they didn't mention obvious errors and mark accordingly, there would be more people compalining about fixes and more voting against the judges and not for the dancing.....
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:18
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The fact was the dances werent perfect tonight - and it is the judges role to judge ...
No, I don't agree. They could've judged fine without being so negative.
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:18
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Len Goodman should go and pickle his walnuts - permanently. What a grumpy bum! I wouldn't put him near the milk.

Bruno - an over-the-top, hyperactive show-off. Saving grace - he can be very funny.

Alesha Diction - a very beautiful woman who spoils herself everytime she opens her mouth. Such an expert - studied ballroom and Latin for three months. On this criteria I would like to see Kara as a judge next year. She is a far, far better dancer than AD.

Craig - too picky by half. He should be judging the how the celebrity dances - not the choreography. Same goes for Pickled Walnuts.

No It Takes Two on Monday.
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:20
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True , and if they didn't mention obvious errors and mark accordingly, there would be more people compalining about fixes and more voting against the judges and not for the dancing.....

This is going to sound as though I am contradicting myself ... I do think it is the judges role to judge, and they did do this as there were errors tonight from all three finalists. That said, there was inconsistency in the voting of the judges ... That I found disappointing
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:21
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No, I don't agree. They could've judged fine without being so negative.
But that's the desired "pantomime element" being displayed, didn't you hear the "Booos!" from the audience?
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:23
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But that's the desired "pantomime element" being displayed, didn't you hear the "Booos!" from the audience?
Absolutely - it would be very bland in entertainment terms otherwise
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:26
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But that's the desired "pantomime element" being displayed, didn't you hear the "Booos!" from the audience?
Pantomine is entertainment. There was nothing entertaining about the judges negativity tonight.
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:30
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Pantomine is entertainment. There was nothing entertaining about the judges negativity tonight.
They werent totally negative

Comments I recall include:
"the best samba by a man on strictly"
"amazing"
"you put your all into it"
"great lines"
"superb musicality"
etc etc
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:31
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I'm disappointed in Craig.

It was so predictable he was going to give Kara's AS a 10 regardless, and Len quite rightly caught him out - basically that routine was just another go at the freestyle.
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:33
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the judges did their job as professionally as always.
They let us know exactly who they wanted to win.

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Old 18-12-2010, 23:34
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Not at all impressed with the judges tonight.
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:36
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the judges did their job as professionally as always.
They let us know exactly who they wanted to win.

which is part of their role ...
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:44
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Len was disgusting tonight, 7 for Kara? madness I'd say.
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:45
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Len was disgusting tonight, 7 for Kara? madness I'd say.
although if you are marking on a purist ballroom basis it would be an appropriate mark ... I would have said it was more an 8 or 9
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:49
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Len was disgusting tonight, 7 for Kara? madness I'd say.
i think Len knew the 10 was coming (via Craig) so 'did a Craig' to spoil the effect/total
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Old 18-12-2010, 23:59
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although if you are marking on a purist ballroom basis it would be an appropriate mark ... I would have said it was more an 8 or 9
he deffo undermarked her, I have to say.
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