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Celebrity Winners and Losers 2010. Has the Series Changed Your Perception of Anyone?
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Kmc1978
19-12-2010
Originally Posted by attackmusic:
“Forgot to add, I am intrigued by Pam talking about fantasies about James

What did she say?”

There are too many to mention individually, mostly in her Strictly diary in the Guardian. One was saying how sexual tension between dance partners is an elephant in the room thing and how turned on she gets during training etc. The one I found the worst was when she stated how she had fantasised about James and Ola's sex life... the phrase sexual tsunami was used. Can't remember the exact wording but if you google her name with the guardian & strictly it'll probably give you the links. She did one every week. I'd look it up and provide links if I hadn't used up my supplies of brain bleach last time
stu2308
19-12-2010
Originally Posted by bobajot:
“Is it? Then why do they have judges that criticise and make fun of old duffers. There has been no end of 'bear baiting' on here .”

it is entertainment, and I have heard no bad remarks from Ann or Pamela about ageism etc - so it appears to be an affliction you have ,... chill
stu2308
19-12-2010
and if you look at the competitors in all series you can hardly accuse the judges or show of prejudice - all ages, equal in sexes, some gay some not, all races ... its a competition where none of these things matter ... if you make them matter in this format I would argue you are the prejudiced person
peeve
19-12-2010
Originally Posted by treaclebob:
“Reading through this thread, I'm surprised there are so few references to Ann Widdicombe. I wonder if that is because most people disliked what they thought they knew of her before it started and she didn't do much to change that? Conversely Gavin seems to have converted almost everyone who had preconceptions about him. Oh I wish I had studied psychology - I find this kind of stuff fascinating!
BTW I also expected to dislike Ann and still do, expected to find Gavin vain and arrogant but now think he is funny and driven. Matt is driven but not particularly funny, Pamela just yeuch but a great dancer, Scott lovely, Kara very sweet (slap it up you, Joe Swash) everyone one else seemed very nice and Felicity is a great advert for yoga.”

^^ This. Exactly. Word for word. Thank you.
jill1812
19-12-2010
Goldie - I thought he came over well

Paul - Wasn't keen on him but at least he tried, and I thought his rumba was quite sweet.

Peter - I always find myself bias towards footballers footballers and Peter continued that trend.

Tina - I expected her to annoy the crap out of me but she was lovely. She's very young and girlish without acting like a child.

Jimi - Loved him, so enthusiastic, and never let the judges get him down

Michelle - My god that woman could whine for America.
Stayed in way too long.

Felicity - I liked her, but her partnership with Vincent irritated me.

Patsy - Lovely, genuine, down to earth lady. One of my favourites this year.

Ann - I thought she was vile before Strictly so I didn't think I could loathe her more. Apparently I can, say what you like about Kate Garraway, John Sargeant, Craig Kelly at least the tried, she took the p*ss for 10 weeks.

Gavin - He didn't grow on me slightly, I still think he's vain and arrogant, but he has a sweet side.

Scott - I thought I would like him but what a moaning faced git.

Pamela - I never liked the psychologist side of her before Strictly and still don't , but loved the side of her that just let go and had a ball.

Matt - I always liked Matt, I just wasn't keen on his initial coverage which made it seem like Farmer Bob's first trip to the big city. I first remember Matt doing gymnastics commentary at the last Olympics and towards the end I found myself reconnecting with the enthusiasm I loved then.

Kara - I said to my Gran after the first show Kara will be popular with the judges, but not that popular with the public. How wrong was I? She's a funny, sweet bubbly girl, a gorgeous dancer, and someone who's had a obsticles in her way that would've stopped many people. A total star.
warszawa
19-12-2010
Originally Posted by jill1812:
“Goldie - I thought he came over well

Paul - Wasn't keen on him but at least he tried, and I thought his rumba was quite sweet.

Peter - I always find myself bias towards footballers footballers and Peter continued that trend.

Tina - I expected her to annoy the crap out of me but she was lovely. She's very young and girlish without acting like a child.

Jimi - Loved him, so enthusiastic, and never let the judges get him down

Michelle - My god that woman could whine for America.
Stayed in way too long.

Felicity - I liked her, but her partnership with Vincent irritated me.

Patsy - Lovely, genuine, down to earth lady. One of my favourites this year.

Ann - I thought she was vile before Strictly so I didn't think I could loathe her more. Apparently I can, say what you like about Kate Garraway, John Sargeant, Craig Kelly at least the tried, she took the p*ss for 10 weeks.

Gavin - He didn't grow on me slightly, I still think he's vain and arrogant, but he has a sweet side.

Scott - I thought I would like him but what a moaning faced git.

Pamela - I never liked the psychologist side of her before Strictly and still don't , but loved the side of her that just let go and had a ball.

Matt - I always liked Matt, I just wasn't keen on his initial coverage which made it seem like Farmer Bob's first trip to the big city. I first remember Matt doing gymnastics commentary at the last Olympics and towards the end I found myself reconnecting with the enthusiasm I loved then.

Kara - I said to my Gran after the first show Kara will be popular with the judges, but not that popular with the public. How wrong was I? She's a funny, sweet bubbly girl, a gorgeous dancer, and someone who's had a obsticles in her way that would've stopped many people. A total star.”

come on, don't sit on the fence.
bobajot
19-12-2010
Originally Posted by stu2308:
“it is entertainment, and I have heard no bad remarks from Ann or Pamela about ageism etc - so it appears to be an affliction you have ,... chill”

Of course they wouldn't they get contracts for being on the show. What next bring a few in on crutches or wheelchairs.
Muggsy
19-12-2010
Originally Posted by bobajot:
“Of course they wouldn't they get contracts for being on the show. What next bring a few in on crutches or wheelchairs.”

You've managed to keep this flounce going ever since Widdy was eliminated, but now's the time to let it go. This series is over. Man up, and stop playing the diva.
bobajot
19-12-2010
Originally Posted by Muggsy:
“You've managed to keep this flounce going ever since Widdy was eliminated, but now's the time to let it go. This series is over. Man up, and stop playing the diva.”

What's it got to do with Widdy another duffer in at least 6. People voted for her because the show is grossly unfair
jinx2
19-12-2010
Goldie - Didn't see enough of him to make an opinion.

Paul - Ola made him look good

Peter Shilton - He made me smile

Tina - Thought she was a bit wet

Jimi - Had a little crush on him

Patsy - Wanted to giver her a hug and tell her everything was going to be O.K.

Felicity - Very irritating

Michelle - Couldn't cope with the little girl voice

Anne - Have always admired her (not her ideals) always will

Gavin- Like is humour

Scott - Disliked his excuses not sportsmen like

Pamela - Disliked her

Matt - Very intense, but quite liked him

Kara - Her personality passed me by but beautiful dancer

Bruce - Mr. Saturday Night

Tess - Bland and insensitive
PompeyBill
19-12-2010
Oh go on then;

Goldie - Didn't watch it the first couple of weeks, so missed him.

Paul - Something uncomfortable about him. Gets marked up for being partnered with Ola, who makes my pants uncomfortable.

Peter Shilton - Wasn't as good as he thought he was going to be by any stretch of the imagination.

Tina - She just seemed to pass by without making any impact. Not a Corrie watcher, so didn't know her before, and don't really know her now.

Jimi - Shouldn't have gone out so early, good to see somebody just enjoy the whole experience.

Patsy - Didn't think I'd like her but was surprised to see her have such a fragile personality. Came out really liking her by the end.

Felicity - Thought I'd like her but didn't really take to her as much as I thought I would. She does strange things with her face.

Michelle - Can't stand anybody who does that 'little girl' voice. At least she was game, but just something about her I didn't take to.

Anne - Was laughing along with her with other early on but it got a bit much in the end. Would have been more palatable if she'd actually put in some, you know, effort. Really don't know why she went on the programme.

Gavin- At the start I had the impression of him as a vain, arrogant so and so but he really grew on me. His love of his own body, for me, hides a large amount of insecurity. Seems a genuinely shy and likeable guy with a quiet sense of humour. Ended up liking him, which surprised me!

Scott - Threw it away really, was far and away the best early on, but just let it go. The tiredness excuse doesn't wash, all of them were putting in a lot of hours, with some doing other work outside as well.

Pamela - Good dancer, but not easy to connect with really. Very sure of herself, and not as 'vulnerable' as others. Very safe as well, compared to others, but a big part of that was because of her age. Liked her, but not as eye catching as others.

Matt - Very determined. Didn't know him before the programme, but fully deserved to get to the final. Think he should have come third, behind the two ladies, but no real argument with him coming second.

Kara - Didn't think I'd take to her, in my mind was the little I knew of her Eastenders character, but a deserved winner. Artem choreographed beautifully and gave her the chance to show the dancing ability she obviously had. Really grew on me as the series went on.
bloggingbelle
19-12-2010
Goldie - ok in small doses.
Paul - not a fan
Peter Shilton - Willing to learn but could not see his faults
Tina - making up the numbers
Jimi - Liked Jimi - seemed more Bollywood than Strictly
Patsy - Drama Queen
Felicity -She knows how to enjoy the good life!
Michelle -could not warm to her
Anne - surprisingly added entertainment - more Anton than Ann
Gavin- bit of a plank but had a wry humour
Scott - took the flak for being overmarked - seems an ok person.
Pamela - Too coarse for me - did not warm to her
Matt - Punishing workschedule hindered him - reacted to being victimised by the judges but who would not. Anyone who watches countryfile knows that he is a really nice bloke.

Kara - Lovely dancer - don't know anything about her but she has got talent
mintchocchip
19-12-2010
The people that went early I didn't form much of an opinion on but in terms of changing opinions I thought I wouldn't like patsy and Gavin and loved them. I suspected kara would be nice but bland and was wrong.
Miss Kookie
19-12-2010
Goldie - Thought he'd be cool - ended up looking like a Dad Dancer

Paul D - Strange, over confident with no dancing ability - I felt really sorry for Ola

Peter Shilton - dull. I'm sure he's a nice guy but not suited to entertainment programmes

Tina - thought she was cute, had the potential to be good but too cautious

Jimi - over eager, thought he was better than he was and seemed to take critiscism too personally

Patsy - I was expecting her to be divaish, but was actually very charming and down to earth. I missed her when she left.

Felicity - Proper Luvvie and a bit detached, couldn't warm to her at all

Michelle - over confident to begin with, then realised the strong competition and reigned herself in - all the better for this too.

Anne - irritated the hell out of me. Grrrr!

Gavin - thought I'd hate him (being a huge ospreys/ welsh rugby fan). I loved him at the end and he became my guilty pleasure

Scott - when he danced (properly!) he was amazing, but his VT's were irritated - he looked like something out of the Jungle Book!

Pamela - couldn't take to her at all, I found her false. Her dancing was great but it lacked emotion - no connection IMHO.

Matt - I'm part of his BP generation so was looking forward to seeing him dance. Dancing was fab but he became too ultra competitive at the end - not an endearing quality

Kara - wasn't expecting to like her much before the show started, but after week 1 she became my fave - both for amazing dancing ability and gorgeous personality

Craig- Love him, 'Nuff said!

Len- Rude this year. Getting a bit big for his boots maybe?

Alesha- nicest of all the judges, rarely says anything rude, any criticism is always constructive. Like her a lot.

Bruno- Funny as ever, what's not to like?

Bruce - Wish he would ad lib a bit more - his timing would be much sharper. Strictly would not be same without him tho

Tess - Extremely professional, just exactly what is asked of her (including reigning Brucie in)
Bonnie96
20-12-2010
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“But as you say she did tone it down, perhaps she became aware that people were uncomfortable with it?”

It appeared to me that it was toned down after Pamela made a comment on the Results Show along the lines of 'James is dancing with "her" ' (meaning Ola) and James' reply wasn't put over in quite the same "fun" way (understandably)

James was 'between a rock and a hard place' towards the end I feel, hoping to get to the Final but with a partner who didn't accept boundaries of taste in her public comments.
Ms_Conscrewed
20-12-2010
They seemed to be getting on well this morning on Daybreak.
sweetcorn
20-12-2010
Originally Posted by Bonnie96:
“It appeared to me that it was toned down after Pamela made a comment on the Results Show along the lines of 'James is dancing with "her" ' (meaning Ola) and James' reply wasn't put over in quite the same "fun" way (understandably)

James was 'between a rock and a hard place' towards the end I feel, hoping to get to the Final but with a partner who didn't accept boundaries of taste in her public comments.”

But that is Pamela all over,if you remember back when she was in the public eye making embarrassing talk show appearances, frankly when she went off the radar everyone was relieved. However my perception of her has changed for the better she is not as bad as she used to be and I thought her comments could have been better but on the whole just her way of having fun. Pamela has been a good role model for women her age and we will see if it lasts.
shefair
20-12-2010
Originally Posted by sweetcorn:
“But that is Pamela all over,if you remember back when she was in the public eye making embarrassing talk show appearances, frankly when she went off the radar everyone was relieved. However my perception of her has changed for the better she is not as bad as she used to be and I thought her comments could have been better but on the whole just her way of having fun. Pamela has been a good role model for women her age and we will see if it lasts.”

what a bizzare comment, why on earth would a woman who makes other uncomfortable as a way of having fun , be any sort of role model for any woman of any age
yenston
20-12-2010
Originally Posted by shefair:
“what a bizzare comment, why on earth would a woman who makes other uncomfortable as a way of having fun , be any sort of role model for any woman of any age ”

I agree. Very strange comment. I also find it very patronising that everyone kept saying she was an inspiration to women. Imagine, if and when, we get a male celeb over 50, who can dance well and looks good for his age, will people be saying to him - you are an inspiriation to men. I think not.
Ms_Conscrewed
20-12-2010
Originally Posted by yenston:
“I agree. Very strange comment. I also find it very patronising that everyone kept saying she was an inspiration to women. Imagine, if and when, we get a male celeb over 50, who can dance well and looks good for his age, will people be saying to him - you are an inspiriation to men. I think not.”

Why ever not? If a male older sleb or bloke could dance well I would be really pleased to see it. It could maybe encourage mine to try it.
yenston
20-12-2010
Originally Posted by Ms_Conscrewed:
“Why ever not? If a male older sleb or bloke could dance well I would be really pleased to see it. It could maybe encourage mine to try it.”

I'd be pleased to see it too. But there wouldn't be the same fawning over him in regards to him being an inspiration I don't think.
labasheedy
20-12-2010
Paul D - err..s'pose he's good at magic
Peter Shilton - dull, dull , dull
Tina - They keep showing her knickers on that cartwheel
Jimi - sweet
Patsy - needy needy, kept looking at herself in the studio tvs, far too gushy and kept going on and on and on.arghhh
Felicity - Loved in in Good life, sorry, i just didn't like her so much now, especially the nose wrinkle and the laugh.
Anne - gave me some real belly laughs, remember the yellow leggings
Gavin - loved him ( not his dancing but)
Scott - dissappointing
Pamela - respect, think she will find it hard to settle now, too highly marked
Matt - decent, hardworking, pleasant, judges were unneccessarily brutal, great voice, Sexy. From indifference ended up loving him.
Kara - very likeable and like a ballet dancer, modest and very loveable.
Craig- the most consistent
Len- went right off him
Alesha- impoving, but too arrogant.
Bruno- Lost all credibilty in marks, says some funny things.
Bruce - They just don't make them like that anymore.
Tess - barbie doll
lynwood3
20-12-2010
Originally Posted by shefair:
“what a bizzare comment, why on earth would a woman who makes other uncomfortable as a way of having fun , be any sort of role model for any woman of any age ”

Well said.
reclinewithme
20-12-2010
Started off thinking Gavin, Scott, Artem and Matt would be vain, arrogant tossers - ended up liking them all. Especially liked Matt as the series went on, and he kept getting knockbacks form the judges, poor devil. He never came across as sulky about it to me, I admired him for keeping going.

Thought Patsy would be annoying, but LOVED her! Expected the Widde to occasionally, accidentally be funny, but it never even came close to happening ...
Starpuss
20-12-2010
I thought I would like Jimi but he irritated me. I didn't think I would like Gavin and I loved him, so funny! The others were all as I expected really.
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