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Ok, bog off now Only kidding.


Round 1. Matt did hello ducky moves just for AKs pleasure, Kara did a Rumba that didn't make me want to claw my eyes out & Bad tranny sat down for a while, did about 40 secs of VW before another sit down... apparently a good sit down gets 40 these days

Round 2- showdances. Matt did some weird hip hop gymnastics combo in pastel pink trousers with not a hint of bacofoil, Karas had too many tricks resulting in an injury and botched ending (plus neither dance or outfit bore any resemblance to ITT descriptions... no change then) and Jammie pretty much ripped off Dirty Dancing.

Second show, round 3- Mrs Connolly and toyboy eliminated (bwahahaha) but it meant we didn't get to see their AT...shame, I was listening out for DJs cries of despair. Matt did a camp Paso & Kara did a waltz while high on painkillers.

Last round- Matt reprised his VW, Kara reprised her AS.

Then while votes were counted the eliminated contestants did a group dance- Gav (hlf) succesfully did the lift from the AS & BoD did her Samba spin (this time the howl of despair came from me)

Finally, Kara was announced as the winner, Artem planted a smacker on her lips in celebration and my daughter and me danced a little jig of joy around the front room which was far more graceful than any dance attempted by BoD.

Overall, not the greatest final.


Ok, seriously bog off now

I'm less keen on Norton - I thought he was less-than-supportive during SDF.

He abused contestants, some of whom knew a lot about dancing, simply for a few cheap laughs.

Plus, he's simply a jobbing TV presenter - he has no experience of, or connection with dance.

I dunno, I think Clary's a bit too quiet, you know?

He's very overbearing as a presenter and has a tendency to try to make the show all about him... more so than brucie does. Plus, on I'd Do Anything when he was a judge he was quite nasty to a couple of the contestants, particularly Jessie who had amazing talent but was a threat to his favourite (much like Len & Bruno in other words). I just think he'd be too much for scd.

I can see that we might get more of him doing singing / dancing / flogging his latest album, yes. That'd have to be held in check. But then, you might also get the same with Anton.

On the other hand, "overbearing" is not a bad thing for a Strictly presenter - you need some authority to work with the judges, celebs and even pros on occasion, all of whom can mouth off.


I didn't see it, so I can't comment.


I think he'd liven it up - of course, we're assuming he'd actually take the gig if offered it. He's got more than enough work at the moment I reckon.

But so far, the reasons still mostly seem to be "I don't like him coz he's smug". I've not heard much in the way of reasons why he would do a bad job at it...

Grrrr. We've just had another sprinkling of snow over the already packed ice. That means that Muggsy's AT* is likely to be put on display for general amusement.

I'm so keen to get rid of Brucie once and for all that I'd take anybody else presenting, even Barrowman.


*That's not Argentine Tango, but arse over tit.

Ok, can we not have any more links like this until DS provides us with a proper vomit smiley

stick it on youtube so we can score it

I guess it has similar moves to my VW and QS*

*Very Wobbly and Quite Stumbly

Just like Hammie's then.

Unappreciating that I'm too scared to step out of the door. I have a bad left hip and dodgy right ankle, already fell on Saturday but was lucky just to bruise my arse and can't risk hurting myself further.

I really fancy beans on toast too, but I have no bread...

I don't thinks he's smug myself. I used to really like him (I even remember him presenting Live & Kicking when I was a kid, I had a crush on him back then). As I say, it was the way he came accross on I'd Do Anything (and too a lesser extent the 'Joseph' show the year before) that put me off.

TBF, whoever takes over when we do get rid of Bruce will divide opinion.

I saw him a few weeks ago, and when asked he said he would consider it. He would bring some real laughs to the show. An ex contestant as a judge ...... why not the presenter

You heard it here first.

I'd go for Graham Norton above John Barrowman. I haven't seen much of Barrowman's presenting, so my opinion is more of him as a guest or judge, when he makes it about himself a lot. As Kmc noted, he was quite nasty to Jessie in I'd Do Anything (after having praised her to the hilt, he did a most baffling volte-face) and he just gets a bit loud and over-bearing. He may be different as a presenter, but I can't see him not getting his opinion in somewhere.

Graham Norton is very good on all those ALW shows. Yes, he wasn't so great on SDF, but he has a lot more experience under his belt now. He's very good at dealing with all the contestants without offering his own opinion - the lack of dance experience could nearly be an advantage here.

I wouldn't.

He has a history of laughing at dancers in SDF.


Well surely you could say exactly the same about Barrowman?

And I'm not talking about experience, I'm talking about attitude.

Norton was nasty - personally abusive - to dancers. Some of whom I knew personally, and I know for a fact that they're good dancers who didn't deserve such comments.

I also know that a lot of dancers were put off applying to SDF because they thought they'd just be laughed at.

Well, I wouldn't mind Clary, I just think he's a bit too quiet. I think the show needs someone with a bit more oomph.

I don't remember SDF in great detail as I didn't have a lot of access to TV in those days, but I do remember that he seemed to have a change in attitude come the ALW shows, where he does seem much more supportive of the contestants. Shame if he was abusive to some of the dancers on SDF though.

I like John Barrowman as well (he's Capt'n Jack/The Face of Bo for heaven's sake! ) but for me he would be the best fit for Strictly.

Like I said, one of my biggest bugbears with Bruce is the way he interjects and talks over the judges and thinks he is the 5th judge - and I just have a sneaking suspicion that JB coould be similar.

I'd just like a host that hosts, really. It is that necessary for the host to also have dance knowledge/experience? Tom is the yardstick by which all hosts are measured (and fall short ) and I don't think he has actual dance expertese does he?

Double post

I didn't mention anything about camp. It's not the campness of JB I have a problem with, it's the sexual innuendo in inappropriate places. I personally have no problem with it, I find him funny, but I think it's too edgy for BBC's Saturday early evening show.

In other things on a Saturday night, he's been fine and very restrained but I just think his friendships with Craig and Bruno means he won't be able to help himself and he'll take the p*ss inappropriately for an early Saturday.

But if he came and said, I'm not going to present in the way I have appeared on ITT, then I'd have no problem with him presenting it.

Neither has Tess

Jobbing TV presenter? He has his own production company, his own show and is hugely popular. OK, he's Irish too

Yup.

If we're talking about why I think he'd be bad for the job - he gets over-invested whenever he comes into the orbit of reality tv. As a contestant he got eliminated and exploded in a shower of ugly bad sportsmanship and finger-pointing. As a pundit he roasted anybody who got in the way of Lisa Snowdon with all the blinkers most of her detractors applied to criticising her. As a judge he was priggish and insulting and selective and triumphalist. Like Len, but with all the vulgar energy of Bruno.

Maybe as a host he'd be different. I dunno. I would have whinged about him inserting himself as a guest performer as well, but after Goldilocks and the Two Perves it's probably hypocritical to criticise on that score.

I dunno. I mean, presumably being on good terms with the judges is an overall plus?


I know what you mean, he does come on a little strong on ITT.

On the other hand, so does Anton pre-Widdy, you just couldn't shut him up.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Barrowman is the Risen Christ, I just think there's a lot of anti-feeling here, and most of it seems simply to be based on "I don't like him" rather than "He wouldn't be able to do the job".

What I meant was, he's a generic TV presenter.

If we throw away the "connection with dance" thing from the job spec, then that means there are dozens of other possibilities - Norton has no more qualifications than, I dunno, Chris Evans or whoever.

So either "connection with dance" is a part of the spec or it's not. And personally, I'd prefer it, if it was part of the spec.

Hmmm... I guess the general level of "replace Brucie" comments and media articles does kind of hint that some presenters are putting their names forwards.