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Old 20-12-2010, 01:46
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Wow do you two know each other in real life? Because it's so normal to argue with someone over the internet about a television show...
Er yes it is as matter of fact! What are you doing here, out of interest?
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Old 20-12-2010, 01:55
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WHAT people skills?
the one where she kept the boys in lien in week 2 and on? where she kept the bitches in line, like Joanna? and all without being harsh, not that it was shown anyway.
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Old 20-12-2010, 02:02
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Just so wrong. Chris came up with the better concept, the better idea. He's much more creative. Stella idea was boring, which is something LS said he didn't want.
I do not agree. What Chris produced in the final task was a lethal weapon. There is a reason bottles like that are not already on the shelves, and they are certainly not something one would want to see anywhere near intoxicated people. The design of the bottle alone lost him that task in my eyes. Not to mention that his commercial was far worse than Stella's. What's more, the name for Stella's beverage 'Urbon' was simply genius. And don't even get me started on their past performance on the previous tasks.

Stella 100% deserved to beat Chris.
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Old 20-12-2010, 02:02
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She spent 12 weeks with the guy and passion is something you can tell. Paloma couldn't have known intricate details of the others portfolio and job achievements or experience.

The context doesn't matter; the principle was the same. If you watched the "reason why I fired them" program then that would be clear

Lord Sugar stated that he doesn't like comparisons where essentially you're bringing yourself up by putting someone down. And that's exactly what Stella and Paloma did.

But Stella was lucky to get away with it.
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Old 20-12-2010, 02:14
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What was so "creative" about Chris's idea? "Umm, okay, it has three ingredients. THREE. And the bottle has three sides. THREE, see? That's creative!"
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Old 20-12-2010, 02:24
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LOL at all the little girls sad that Human Robot Chris didn't win for his crappy triangle bottle.
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Old 20-12-2010, 02:58
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Yeah, you guys are right! Chris' product wasn't creative in the slightest. It was bizarre. I guess all those industry experts aren't really experts at all! Why they were praising Chris' brand is an absolute mystery.
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Old 20-12-2010, 03:00
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Yeah, you guys are right! Chris' product wasn't creative in the slightest. It was bizarre. I guess all those industry experts aren't really experts at all! Why they were praising Chris' brand is an absolute mystery.
It was probably just the way the programme was edited. Stella already seemed to have it in the bag and given the fact that she was hired they probably only showed the best of Chris' feedback to build up tension. Surely the fact that the bottle for his beverage doubled as a highly dangerous weapon was discussed in more detail.
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Old 20-12-2010, 09:05
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When was this? if you mean in the final it was Stella who was talking over him.
No - Stella started speaking first and when she said she had more passion for the job than he did - he interrupted her and refused to let het her finish....despite being asked twice.

He has done the same thing in the boardroom before with Alex and another one.... he just interrupted and kept droning over the person speaking....very rude, immature and unprofessional.

He would have done far better to let her finish - then pull the rug from under he. As it was - he showed that he had no manners, and Lord Sugar, Karren and Nick were trying to listen to Stella.
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Old 20-12-2010, 09:15
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I just find Stella very boring to be honest.
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Old 20-12-2010, 09:35
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No - Stella started speaking first and when she said she had more passion for the job than he did - he interrupted her and refused to let het her finish....despite being asked twice.

He has done the same thing in the boardroom before with Alex and another one.... he just interrupted and kept droning over the person speaking....very rude, immature and unprofessional.

He would have done far better to let her finish - then pull the rug from under he. As it was - he showed that he had no manners, and Lord Sugar, Karren and Nick were trying to listen to Stella.
I think he was genuinely shocked by Stella, I can half understand why she did it, she was so close just needed to give it a final push, but then at the same time it is not a decent thing to do at all.

Chris was right, she should have focused on her own merits rather than putting him down at her profit. Although she did have a difficult childhood she can't know how much passion he has got and she can hardly give an objective decision about which of them had more.

It was a real shame, she was the outstanding candidate and will push on with her career but it was desperate. The moment she did it I hoped Chris would win- I don't think he could control his reaction- I would have been furious.
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Old 20-12-2010, 09:54
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I just find Stella very boring to be honest.
Entirely agree.
Really boring.
And she drones on in a nasal twang.
And she's smug.
Nothing to be smug about.
Sid's loss, Japanese bank's gain.
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Old 20-12-2010, 14:18
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No - Stella started speaking first and when she said she had more passion for the job than he did - he interrupted her and refused to let het her finish....despite being asked twice.
I felt it was the right thing to do, though. If he'd let her get away with casting aspercions like that, the moment would have gone and he would not have been able to counter effectively later. It would have looked weak. By speaking up, he showed he wasn't cowed by her and indeed gave a practical demonstration of the passion he claimed.

What he said was reasonable, too. Ie talk about your own passion all you like, but don't suppose you know about mine.
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Old 20-12-2010, 16:12
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I disagree, Stella was the superior candidate all series long.
This.
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Old 20-12-2010, 16:45
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They were both strong candidates and if I was a boss Id have employed them both. As there can only be one winner Stella just edged it.
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Old 20-12-2010, 17:25
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he said he didn't want any "steady eddies or cautious carols" but I'd say that's exactly what Stella is .

Chris was far more a risk taker .

btw - what exactly is the job they have to do ? it's never made clear .
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Old 20-12-2010, 17:42
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Stella was cold,icy,but somehow refreshing just like the bottles of beer.No way should she have won ,lets keep it on ice till next season
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Old 20-12-2010, 21:09
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They were both strong candidates and if I was a boss Id have employed them both. As there can only be one winner Stella just edged it.
I did read today that SAS said there would be a place for Chris somewhere in his organisation.
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Old 20-12-2010, 21:56
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During her final speech my mother (who's not been watching the series) said she wanted to give Stella a slap. She seemed like a decent person but I think under pressure we saw an ugly side to her personality, whereas Chris kept himself together throughout.

Well, except for the "seriously mate, £&@& off" bit but that was pretty funny
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Old 21-12-2010, 09:19
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During her final speech my mother (who's not been watching the series) said she wanted to give Stella a slap. She seemed like a decent person ...
With all due respect to your mother, she can't be that decent if she wants to go slapping random people of the telly.
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Old 21-12-2010, 11:40
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Just so wrong. Chris came up with the better concept, the better idea. He's much more creative. Stella idea was boring, which is something LS said he didn't want.
Summer, up until the final, I liked Stella, but I thought Chris was so articulate in his presentation. I did like the Urbon idea, but it was the bottle that let it down. I also didn't want Stella to win at the end because I saw a side to her that I hadn't seen or appreciated.The way she behaved towards Chris regarding his passion and quite honestly, I was cringing when she kept saying what she wants she gets. That's all very well, but there are different variable in that argument, and showing humility is one of them. For me, wrong decision from LS.
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Old 21-12-2010, 11:53
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Just so wrong. Chris came up with the better concept, the better idea. He's much more creative. Stella idea was boring, which is something LS said he didn't want.
Nope preferred Stella's concept by far, Chris's looked like perfume!
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Old 21-12-2010, 12:01
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Chris better than Stella? Come off it!

He came up with The Germinator - one of the worst products on The Apprentice. Everyone told him it was a crap idea but he thought it was a winner. He was also on the losing team so many times - at least six if not more. Sugar even said something like "I'm struggling to find a reason to keep you in the process." He fluked it to the final, I reckon. He wasn't a bad candidate, but overall Stella was stronger. Also, I think Nick Hewer was talking out of his rear when he said Chris was the most articulate candidate ever. I sense Mr Hewer mistook a posh Oxbridge type voice as being excessively articulate.
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Old 21-12-2010, 12:11
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I tuink they were both the best candidates and deserved to be in the final. It said. In the paper yesterday Stella is project manager of a team can't remember doing what now, but if u look from that point of view, she was much better leading a team. Liz didn't do what Chris asked on the most important task. Stella was a much better organiser and it sounds as if she was more suited to the job. I don't know though cos like ppl say they both worked for him for a while. Chris can walk onto any job now though cos of his age
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Old 21-12-2010, 12:20
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The problem with Chris is he was in the losing team too many times and in the final three 'back in the boardroom' too many times. I think this undermined his credibility as a worthy finalist. Perhaps he was unlucky to be in the losing team so many times but it didn't do his cause any good. I think Sugar always has that at the back of his mind: "should I hire someone that's been on the losing team so many times?"
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