I like the way it says she tells Simon he's got to start behaving for Peter and Carla and it's only after Simon lies that she goes in all guns blazing. Shows that she wasn't intending to make things hard for P&C or looking to get revenge on them. Her attacking Carla is Leanne's maternal instinct kicking in and (even though what Simon said isn't true) I'm happy she's going to keep that motherly side, as well as her feisty side.
The Jane Danson/Leanne Barlow appreciation thread
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Originally Posted by MsWilder11:
“I like the way it says she tells Simon he's got to start behaving for Peter and Carla and it's only after Simon lies that she goes in all guns blazing. Shows that she wasn't intending to make things hard for P&C or looking to get revenge on them. Her attacking Carla is Leanne's maternal instinct kicking in and (even though what Simon said isn't true) I'm happy she's going to keep that motherly side, as well as her feisty side.”
“I like the way it says she tells Simon he's got to start behaving for Peter and Carla and it's only after Simon lies that she goes in all guns blazing. Shows that she wasn't intending to make things hard for P&C or looking to get revenge on them. Her attacking Carla is Leanne's maternal instinct kicking in and (even though what Simon said isn't true) I'm happy she's going to keep that motherly side, as well as her feisty side.”
Yes, I was very pleased to read that. Prior to that, none of the spoilers had mentioned it.
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“Yes, I was very pleased to read that. Prior to that, none of the spoilers had mentioned it.”
“Yes, I was very pleased to read that. Prior to that, none of the spoilers had mentioned it.”
I've been a bit thrown by some of the recent spoliers. The altercation at the school gates with Carla and Simon sounded a lot worse than it actually is. Plus, Leanne's return sounded as if it was solely about coming back for Simon, whereas the reality is more she comes back to pick up the rest of her stuff, but decides to stay because of Simon/Simon's lie
Some lovely pictures of Jane:
http://www.itv.com/coronationstreet/...riday2mar2012/
http://www.itv.com/coronationstreet/...riday2mar2012/
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“Some lovely pictures of Jane:
http://www.itv.com/coronationstreet/...riday2mar2012/”
“Some lovely pictures of Jane:
http://www.itv.com/coronationstreet/...riday2mar2012/”
Thanks for that!
Looks like she will be moving into the Rovers then. The picture of the hug between her and Simon is lovely! I really hope that mother/son bond stays with them for a long time, if not forever. I can't see anybody else being Simon's mum other than Leanne now.
Also wondering if she gets Simon to come clean to Peter re lying about Carla, or whether Simon admits it himself because Leanne gets grief for attacking Carla. I can't quite judge the atmosphere in that picture of the three of them
Originally Posted by MsWilder11:
“Thanks for that!
Looks like she will be moving into the Rovers then. The picture of the hug between her and Simon is lovely! I really hope that mother/son bond stays with them for a long time, if not forever. I can't see anybody else being Simon's mum other than Leanne now.
Also wondering if she gets Simon to come clean to Peter re lying about Carla, or whether Simon admits it himself because Leanne gets grief for attacking Carla. I can't quite judge the atmosphere in that picture of the three of them”
“Thanks for that!
Looks like she will be moving into the Rovers then. The picture of the hug between her and Simon is lovely! I really hope that mother/son bond stays with them for a long time, if not forever. I can't see anybody else being Simon's mum other than Leanne now.
Also wondering if she gets Simon to come clean to Peter re lying about Carla, or whether Simon admits it himself because Leanne gets grief for attacking Carla. I can't quite judge the atmosphere in that picture of the three of them
”
Whatever else happens in that Barlow family, Leanne and Simon, I think, will always have a very special relationship.
Yes, I think that Leanne would protect and defend Simon and vice versa.
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“Whatever else happens in that Barlow family, Leanne and Simon, I think, will always have a very special relationship.”
“Whatever else happens in that Barlow family, Leanne and Simon, I think, will always have a very special relationship.”
I really hope so! I'd be so disapppointed if it was phased out over time.
http://programmes.stv.tv/coronation-...uary-27-730pm/
can anyone watch this preview?Its blocked for me
what happens?
can anyone watch this preview?Its blocked for me
what happens?
Originally Posted by smashbox:
“http://programmes.stv.tv/coronation-...uary-27-730pm/
can anyone watch this preview?Its blocked for me what happens?”
“http://programmes.stv.tv/coronation-...uary-27-730pm/
can anyone watch this preview?Its blocked for me
what happens?”
That was great!! The script sounds like it was made up from the debates people have on here about Leanne/Peter/Carla Basically Leanne's quizzing Carla on what's been going on with her and Peter. Carla's telling her side but Leanne doesn't believe her and actually says she doesn't believe she was raped. Carla tells her that she feels bad about what's happened, but if everything was fine with the marriage then Peter wouldn't have strayed/Carla and Peter are going to settle down/Leanne needs to get over the fact that Peter doesn't love her. Leanne replies that Peter doesn't love Carla either, he's just addicted to her like he is to the booze.
Sounds great,I don't know how Leanne didn't slap Carla there and then, that bitch deserves it. But I know Leanne will get the last laugh when Peter and Carla split up.
Originally Posted by MsWilder11:
“ That was great!! The script sounds like it was made up from the debates people have on here about Leanne/Peter/Carla
Basically Leanne's quizzing Carla on what's been going on with her and Peter. Carla's telling her side but Leanne doesn't believe her and actually says she doesn't believe she was raped. Carla tells her that she feels bad about what's happened, but if everything was fine with the marriage then Peter wouldn't have strayed/Carla and Peter are going to settle down/Leanne needs to get over the fact that Peter doesn't love her. Leanne replies that Peter doesn't love Carla either, he's just addicted to her like he is to the booze.”
“
That was great!! The script sounds like it was made up from the debates people have on here about Leanne/Peter/Carla Basically Leanne's quizzing Carla on what's been going on with her and Peter. Carla's telling her side but Leanne doesn't believe her and actually says she doesn't believe she was raped. Carla tells her that she feels bad about what's happened, but if everything was fine with the marriage then Peter wouldn't have strayed/Carla and Peter are going to settle down/Leanne needs to get over the fact that Peter doesn't love her. Leanne replies that Peter doesn't love Carla either, he's just addicted to her like he is to the booze.”
Leanne understands Peter. Carla doesn't, yet.
Brilliant acting, Jane http://programmes.stv.tv/coronation-...uary-27-730pm/
Hello. I haven't posted in here before, but I've been reading the thread.
I agree, Jane is a brilliant actress, and Leanne is a brilliant character.
Not sure I agree with this. I think Leanne and Peter's relationship had many cracks in it, even before Carla appeared. I don't think Leanne ever really understood Peter's drinking, however, she did support him as best she could, and she did make an effort to understand.
On the drinking note, I do think Carla understands Peter more than Leanne ever can, mainly because she also has issues with her drinking. Before they were in a relationship, I thought their support for each other was incredible, and very effective, however now that they are in a relationship, I don't think they can provide each other the support they really need (for their drinking issues) and therefore should seek professional help if they need to.
I agree, Jane is a brilliant actress, and Leanne is a brilliant character.
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“Leanne understands Peter. Carla doesn't, yet.”
“Leanne understands Peter. Carla doesn't, yet.”
Not sure I agree with this. I think Leanne and Peter's relationship had many cracks in it, even before Carla appeared. I don't think Leanne ever really understood Peter's drinking, however, she did support him as best she could, and she did make an effort to understand.
On the drinking note, I do think Carla understands Peter more than Leanne ever can, mainly because she also has issues with her drinking. Before they were in a relationship, I thought their support for each other was incredible, and very effective, however now that they are in a relationship, I don't think they can provide each other the support they really need (for their drinking issues) and therefore should seek professional help if they need to.
Hello. I think I should have expanded on what I typed.
Yes, there were cracks in their marriage but lots of marriages can have them and can work on them and through them.
Yes, Carla understands Peter in some ways, partly because she can empathise with another alcoholic. But Leanne is not an alcoholic so can see from outside, so to speak, as far as his addiction is concerned, and can see where his love truly is, to the alcohol, until he can give it up - that is, if he can give it up. Leanne gave him total support and thought that he was having outside counselling and had said that Carla needed professional help.
Nice to "speak".
Joy
Yes, there were cracks in their marriage but lots of marriages can have them and can work on them and through them.
Yes, Carla understands Peter in some ways, partly because she can empathise with another alcoholic. But Leanne is not an alcoholic so can see from outside, so to speak, as far as his addiction is concerned, and can see where his love truly is, to the alcohol, until he can give it up - that is, if he can give it up. Leanne gave him total support and thought that he was having outside counselling and had said that Carla needed professional help.
Nice to "speak".
Joy
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“Leanne understands Peter. Carla doesn't, yet.”
“Leanne understands Peter. Carla doesn't, yet.”
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“Hello. I think I should have expanded on what I typed.
Yes, there were cracks in their marriage but lots of marriages can have them and can work on them and through them.
Yes, Carla understands Peter in some ways, partly because she can empathise with another alcoholic. But Leanne is not an alcoholic so can see from outside, so to speak, as far as his addiction is concerned, and can see where his love truly is, to the alcohol, until he can give it up - that is, if he can give it up. Leanne gave him total support and thought that he was having outside counselling and had said that Carla needed professional help.
Nice to "speak".
Joy”
“Hello. I think I should have expanded on what I typed.
Yes, there were cracks in their marriage but lots of marriages can have them and can work on them and through them.
Yes, Carla understands Peter in some ways, partly because she can empathise with another alcoholic. But Leanne is not an alcoholic so can see from outside, so to speak, as far as his addiction is concerned, and can see where his love truly is, to the alcohol, until he can give it up - that is, if he can give it up. Leanne gave him total support and thought that he was having outside counselling and had said that Carla needed professional help.
Nice to "speak".
Joy”
Thank you for expanding.
What you say is true, about there being 'cracks' in all marriages, I do agree, in fact, in some ways I think these 'cracks' are essential, as problems, providing you work through them can often strengthen a relationship.
However in Leanne and Peter's case, I'm not sure that they really had a 'healthily' relationship or marriage. But these are just my thoughts, course you are entitled to see it differently.
I do agree, that Leanne being a non alcoholic and can therefore see from the outside, which in some ways is better. I suppose had Peter and never Carla formed the bond they had and found each other, then Leanne's support, and Peter's counselling (providing he had it regularly) may have been enough (and possibly if Leanne hadn't had an affair), but Carla's relationship (platonic) with Peter kind of highlighted the gap between her level of understanding and Carla's, and made Leanne's support almost inferior (I'm not saying it was inferior, just making a comparison)
Originally Posted by Pomegranates:
“Thank you for expanding.
What you say is true, about there being 'cracks' in all marriages, I do agree, in fact, in some ways I think these 'cracks' are essential, as problems, providing you work through them can often strengthen a relationship.
However in Leanne and Peter's case, I'm not sure that they really had a 'healthily' relationship or marriage. But these are just my thoughts, course you are entitled to see it differently.
I do agree, that Leanne being a non alcoholic and can therefore see from the outside, which in some ways is better. I suppose had Peter and never Carla formed the bond they had and found each other, then Leanne's support, and Peter's counselling (providing he had it regularly) may have been enough (and possibly if Leanne hadn't had an affair), but Carla's relationship (platonic) with Peter kind of highlighted the gap between her level of understanding and Carla's, and made Leanne's support almost inferior (I'm not saying it was inferior, just making a comparison)”
“Thank you for expanding.
What you say is true, about there being 'cracks' in all marriages, I do agree, in fact, in some ways I think these 'cracks' are essential, as problems, providing you work through them can often strengthen a relationship.
However in Leanne and Peter's case, I'm not sure that they really had a 'healthily' relationship or marriage. But these are just my thoughts, course you are entitled to see it differently.
I do agree, that Leanne being a non alcoholic and can therefore see from the outside, which in some ways is better. I suppose had Peter and never Carla formed the bond they had and found each other, then Leanne's support, and Peter's counselling (providing he had it regularly) may have been enough (and possibly if Leanne hadn't had an affair), but Carla's relationship (platonic) with Peter kind of highlighted the gap between her level of understanding and Carla's, and made Leanne's support almost inferior (I'm not saying it was inferior, just making a comparison)”
That's what I like, when posters can give thoughts and accept that others can see things differently
Well I for one think alcohal is the only thing they have, if you even look at when Peter decided to go have the affair with Carla it was after a day spent on the booze. I'm tellin ya if it weren't for the booze there's no common link. And that is a disaster for a relationship!
I do agree that Leanne will never be able to fully understand Peter's alcoholism, but she tried as best as she could and she was extremely long suffering. I felt Peter wouldn't let Leanne understand/try to help him sometimes. Instead he'd clam up, go AWOL and end up talking to Carla about his problems because she turned to drink when things got tough too so she knew how he felt.
Now I believe that his and Carla's relationship could've been beneficial if it had stayed purely platonic and they were just friends who helped each other out with their mutual alcohol problem. Peter felt that he was letting Leanne down whenever he was tempted/fell off the wagon so I think that's part of the reason why he went to Carla in the low moments rather than Leanne. I will say that Carla did help him by empathizing, because that showed Peter he wasn't alone and at least there was one person who totally understood, and vice-versa.
I also think Peter has always felt inferior to Leanne in their relationship. She was the more stable one and held things together when Peter hit low points. Leanne's reliable because no matter what happened, she put up with everything. Yes she had the affair with Nick, but I believe that was because she was finding the initial stress of Peter's alcoholism hard to manage. Plus Nick was doing the chasing and took advantage of her weakness. After that, Leanne started to cope better because she knew the signs and what to expect.
I think Peter and Carla are going to find out soon that they can't work. Peter is probably relishing being the stronger partner for once, but it won't last. He can't stay strong for Carla because he can't stay strong for himself. When things get hard with Carla, he'll have no-one else to run to, and vice-versa. Leanne used to pull Peter back up, and Peter could then pull Carla up, but now the pair of them will just sink lower and lower (imo).
As much as others think Carla and Peter work/suit each other more, the truth is Leanne is healthier for him. I believe Peter does love her and that his relationship with Carla is more about feeling needed and he thinks that he'll be better with Carla because she understands so he won't have to put up any front/act for her. The problem with that is I doubt Peter will feel as pressured to stay off the drink because "Carla will understand"
Yikes! Ramble over
Now I believe that his and Carla's relationship could've been beneficial if it had stayed purely platonic and they were just friends who helped each other out with their mutual alcohol problem. Peter felt that he was letting Leanne down whenever he was tempted/fell off the wagon so I think that's part of the reason why he went to Carla in the low moments rather than Leanne. I will say that Carla did help him by empathizing, because that showed Peter he wasn't alone and at least there was one person who totally understood, and vice-versa.
I also think Peter has always felt inferior to Leanne in their relationship. She was the more stable one and held things together when Peter hit low points. Leanne's reliable because no matter what happened, she put up with everything. Yes she had the affair with Nick, but I believe that was because she was finding the initial stress of Peter's alcoholism hard to manage. Plus Nick was doing the chasing and took advantage of her weakness. After that, Leanne started to cope better because she knew the signs and what to expect.
I think Peter and Carla are going to find out soon that they can't work. Peter is probably relishing being the stronger partner for once, but it won't last. He can't stay strong for Carla because he can't stay strong for himself. When things get hard with Carla, he'll have no-one else to run to, and vice-versa. Leanne used to pull Peter back up, and Peter could then pull Carla up, but now the pair of them will just sink lower and lower (imo).
As much as others think Carla and Peter work/suit each other more, the truth is Leanne is healthier for him. I believe Peter does love her and that his relationship with Carla is more about feeling needed and he thinks that he'll be better with Carla because she understands so he won't have to put up any front/act for her. The problem with that is I doubt Peter will feel as pressured to stay off the drink because "Carla will understand"
Yikes! Ramble over
Originally Posted by smashbox:
“Good post MsWilder!!
Just 3 more days now,woohoo”
“Good post MsWilder!!
Just 3 more days now,woohoo
”
Thanks! I wasn't intending it to go on that long
Hooray for 3 days
Although I've just been reading the spoilers and I don't like the fact that Leanne was just intending to pick up her stuff and leave again. It sounds like if she hadn't have come across Simon, then she would've gone for good without him knowing. I really don't believe Leanne would act like that. I understand that she left hastily after Peter's affair was exposed to sort her head out, but after that I really doubt she'd just cut everyone off without any proper goodbye.
Originally Posted by MsWilder11:
“Thanks! I wasn't intending it to go on that long
Hooray for 3 days Although I've just been reading the spoilers and I don't like the fact that Leanne was just intending to pick up her stuff and leave again. It sounds like if she hadn't have come across Simon, then she would've gone for good without him knowing. I really don't believe Leanne would act like that. I understand that she left hastily after Peter's affair was exposed to sort her head out, but after that I really doubt she'd just cut everyone off without any proper goodbye.”
“Thanks! I wasn't intending it to go on that long
Hooray for 3 days
Although I've just been reading the spoilers and I don't like the fact that Leanne was just intending to pick up her stuff and leave again. It sounds like if she hadn't have come across Simon, then she would've gone for good without him knowing. I really don't believe Leanne would act like that. I understand that she left hastily after Peter's affair was exposed to sort her head out, but after that I really doubt she'd just cut everyone off without any proper goodbye.”
I don't believe she would either, tbh she would never have left only for the fact Jane had requested a few weeks holidays, imho anyway. What with the betting spoiler coming up I see Peter being really spiteful. TBH he should just pay out as it's his and Carlas fault the bet never went through properly.
Originally Posted by smashbox:
“I don't believe she would either, tbh she would never have left only for the fact Jane had requested a few weeks holidays, imho anyway. What with the betting spoiler coming up I see Peter being really spiteful. TBH he should just pay out as it's his and Carlas fault the bet never went through properly.”
“I don't believe she would either, tbh she would never have left only for the fact Jane had requested a few weeks holidays, imho anyway. What with the betting spoiler coming up I see Peter being really spiteful. TBH he should just pay out as it's his and Carlas fault the bet never went through properly.”
Yeah. I know they had to write her out for two weeks, but I think it was badly done. She could've at least said to Simon that she was coming back rather than leaving it unanswered. It was just bad writing, but I'll let it go
As for Peter, it doesn't look like he's going to redeem himself anytime soon. Looks like him and Carla are going to hit the bottle at the same time. Plus, he's still being ridiculously stubborn over Simon. Dragging him through the bar to take him home when he wants to stay with Leanne? I hope Leanne intervenes.
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“That's what I like, when posters can give thoughts and accept that others can see things differently”
“That's what I like, when posters can give thoughts and accept that others can see things differently
”
I think this is how it should be, it is a forum, for discussion. I don't post very often, but the main boards are really annoying me at the moment, so many posters who I can't work out whether they are being sarcastic or delusional - some act like Carla and Leanne are saints, and other act like they are pure evil - usually if Leanne is seen as a saint, the same poster views Carla as the devil, and vice versa, obviously people always have a right to dislike a character, or love a character, but the extremes some people seem to feel is a bit strange, and to be honest I don't find I can discuss anything with those people as they ridiculously closed minded.
Originally Posted by MsWilder11:
“I do agree that Leanne will never be able to fully understand Peter's alcoholism, but she tried as best as she could and she was extremely long suffering. I felt Peter wouldn't let Leanne understand/try to help him sometimes. Instead he'd clam up, go AWOL and end up talking to Carla about his problems because she turned to drink when things got tough too so she knew how he felt.
Now I believe that his and Carla's relationship could've been beneficial if it had stayed purely platonic and they were just friends who helped each other out with their mutual alcohol problem. Peter felt that he was letting Leanne down whenever he was tempted/fell off the wagon so I think that's part of the reason why he went to Carla in the low moments rather than Leanne. I will say that Carla did help him by empathizing, because that showed Peter he wasn't alone and at least there was one person who totally understood, and vice-versa.
I also think Peter has always felt inferior to Leanne in their relationship. She was the more stable one and held things together when Peter hit low points. Leanne's reliable because no matter what happened, she put up with everything. Yes she had the affair with Nick, but I believe that was because she was finding the initial stress of Peter's alcoholism hard to manage. Plus Nick was doing the chasing and took advantage of her weakness. After that, Leanne started to cope better because she knew the signs and what to expect.
I think Peter and Carla are going to find out soon that they can't work. Peter is probably relishing being the stronger partner for once, but it won't last. He can't stay strong for Carla because he can't stay strong for himself. When things get hard with Carla, he'll have no-one else to run to, and vice-versa. Leanne used to pull Peter back up, and Peter could then pull Carla up, but now the pair of them will just sink lower and lower (imo).
As much as others think Carla and Peter work/suit each other more, the truth is Leanne is healthier for him. I believe Peter does love her and that his relationship with Carla is more about feeling needed and he thinks that he'll be better with Carla because she understands so he won't have to put up any front/act for her. The problem with that is I doubt Peter will feel as pressured to stay off the drink because "Carla will understand"
Yikes! Ramble over”
“I do agree that Leanne will never be able to fully understand Peter's alcoholism, but she tried as best as she could and she was extremely long suffering. I felt Peter wouldn't let Leanne understand/try to help him sometimes. Instead he'd clam up, go AWOL and end up talking to Carla about his problems because she turned to drink when things got tough too so she knew how he felt.
Now I believe that his and Carla's relationship could've been beneficial if it had stayed purely platonic and they were just friends who helped each other out with their mutual alcohol problem. Peter felt that he was letting Leanne down whenever he was tempted/fell off the wagon so I think that's part of the reason why he went to Carla in the low moments rather than Leanne. I will say that Carla did help him by empathizing, because that showed Peter he wasn't alone and at least there was one person who totally understood, and vice-versa.
I also think Peter has always felt inferior to Leanne in their relationship. She was the more stable one and held things together when Peter hit low points. Leanne's reliable because no matter what happened, she put up with everything. Yes she had the affair with Nick, but I believe that was because she was finding the initial stress of Peter's alcoholism hard to manage. Plus Nick was doing the chasing and took advantage of her weakness. After that, Leanne started to cope better because she knew the signs and what to expect.
I think Peter and Carla are going to find out soon that they can't work. Peter is probably relishing being the stronger partner for once, but it won't last. He can't stay strong for Carla because he can't stay strong for himself. When things get hard with Carla, he'll have no-one else to run to, and vice-versa. Leanne used to pull Peter back up, and Peter could then pull Carla up, but now the pair of them will just sink lower and lower (imo).
As much as others think Carla and Peter work/suit each other more, the truth is Leanne is healthier for him. I believe Peter does love her and that his relationship with Carla is more about feeling needed and he thinks that he'll be better with Carla because she understands so he won't have to put up any front/act for her. The problem with that is I doubt Peter will feel as pressured to stay off the drink because "Carla will understand"
Yikes! Ramble over
”
Very interesting post. I think one of the things I love about this storyline, is not only that, in my opinion is involves the three best actresses/ actors Corrie have, but is the range of views and opinions it has received. Makes it much more interesting to see the way different people interpret it. I also like how it involved several storylines (Leanne and Peters, relationship, Leanne and Nicks, Leanne and Carlas, Carlas and Peter, the alcohol storyline, the Frank storyline and subsequent rape, Leanne's affair with Nick and so on) and has tied them into one bigger storyline.
Whilst I agree with many aspects of your post, I do think Peter genuinely loves Carla, but I do think a huge part of their relationship also could be addiction.
I agree that Leanne is possibly healthier for Peter than Carla, mainly because as you say she is more stable - Carla to me is a very interesting character - I reckon she is borderline depressive, could be suffering from RTS and PTSD, plus she hasn't actually ever tackled her drinking issues. The moment she was about to start tackling the, Peter chose that moment to confess his feelings for her, and seemed to stop their.
I think before Peter and Carla can have any form of a stable relationship, both of them need to ensure they are having professional help. It is interesting as I think Carla and Peter can provide each other with incredible support at times, and seem to have an ability to push their problems to the back in order to help each other, but with Simon to think about, I think that will be more difficult for Peter and will subsequently lead to problems.
Originally Posted by Pomegranates:
“I think this is how it should be, it is a forum, for discussion. I don't post very often, but the main boards are really annoying me at the moment, so many posters who I can't work out whether they are being sarcastic or delusional - some act like Carla and Leanne are saints, and other act like they are pure evil - usually if Leanne is seen as a saint, the same poster views Carla as the devil, and vice versa, obviously people always have a right to dislike a character, or love a character, but the extremes some people seem to feel is a bit strange, and to be honest I don't find I can discuss anything with those people as they ridiculously closed minded.
Whilst I agree with many aspects of your post, I do think Peter genuinely loves Carla, but I do think a huge part of their relationship also could be addiction.
I agree that Leanne is possibly healthier for Peter than Carla, mainly because as you say she is more stable - Carla to me is a very interesting character - I reckon she is borderline depressive, could be suffering from RTS and PTSD, plus she hasn't actually ever tackled her drinking issues. The moment she was about to start tackling the, Peter chose that moment to confess his feelings for her, and seemed to stop their.
I think before Peter and Carla can have any form of a stable relationship, both of them need to ensure they are having professional help. It is interesting as I think Carla and Peter can provide each other with incredible support at times, and seem to have an ability to push their problems to the back in order to help each other, but with Simon to think about, I think that will be more difficult for Peter and will subsequently lead to problems.”
“I think this is how it should be, it is a forum, for discussion. I don't post very often, but the main boards are really annoying me at the moment, so many posters who I can't work out whether they are being sarcastic or delusional - some act like Carla and Leanne are saints, and other act like they are pure evil - usually if Leanne is seen as a saint, the same poster views Carla as the devil, and vice versa, obviously people always have a right to dislike a character, or love a character, but the extremes some people seem to feel is a bit strange, and to be honest I don't find I can discuss anything with those people as they ridiculously closed minded.
Whilst I agree with many aspects of your post, I do think Peter genuinely loves Carla, but I do think a huge part of their relationship also could be addiction.
I agree that Leanne is possibly healthier for Peter than Carla, mainly because as you say she is more stable - Carla to me is a very interesting character - I reckon she is borderline depressive, could be suffering from RTS and PTSD, plus she hasn't actually ever tackled her drinking issues. The moment she was about to start tackling the, Peter chose that moment to confess his feelings for her, and seemed to stop their.
I think before Peter and Carla can have any form of a stable relationship, both of them need to ensure they are having professional help. It is interesting as I think Carla and Peter can provide each other with incredible support at times, and seem to have an ability to push their problems to the back in order to help each other, but with Simon to think about, I think that will be more difficult for Peter and will subsequently lead to problems.”
I do think Peter has love for Carla, but not the kind of fairytale love that will "conquer all", so to speak. I still think Peter loves playing the hero, protecting Carla and being the answer to her problems. Leanne has never needed him to do that. It'd be interesting to see if Peter would've been attracted to Carla if she was still the strong, independant businesswoman she used to be, rather than the fragile, scared victim.
I also agree that Carla is probably suffering with PTSD. None of her issues have been addressed, the drinking or the rape. Peter's not addressing his problems either ie. Simon's attitude. Their refusal to seek any outside help other than sole reliance on each other is only going to intensify their problems. That's why the platonic friendship worked better imo. Carla and Peter turned to each other to let off steam, but then went back to their individual lives.
BIB - I totally agree with this. I've reduced my posting in Carla/Peter/Leanne threads on the main forum because of this very issue.The same arguments are just thrown about over and over again and it's boring. Some posters are obviously WUMs, others may not be but there's no debate. It's more like "you're wrong, my character is better". There are still a few posters out there who you can have a good discussion with though. My loyalty lies with Leanne, but I still recognise Carla as a huge, well-acted character and I enjoy watching her. But sometimes it feels you can't like both
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