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weightwatchers new pro points diet.
I have just been looking at the new weight watchers diet revolution, free with today's daily mail.
What a load of tosh, seems to me its like a spin off from the slimming world diet. How much time do these diet advisors think we have, to be continually in the kitchen cooking meals ? Some of the recipes are quite bizarre to say the least. Who would eat scrambled eggs with smoked salmon for breakfast , or fried potatoes turkey rashers and beans for another breakfast. The whole diet plan looks so complicated. Who finds this plan very good or who finds the plan not so good ? Just a thought.
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I think they've taken some of the principles from slimming world but I don't think it appear complicated in the slightest. Smoked salmon and eggs are a classic combo so what's so strange about that? Potatoes also feature in classic breakfast recipes like hash browns and potato farls. And cooking meals from scratch is by far the best way to lose weight and improve your diet as you can control what goes into the food like salt, sugar and fat. If you like pre packed crap then clearly it isn't for you.
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Some of the recipes are quite bizarre to say the least. Who would eat scrambled eggs with smoked salmon for breakfast ,
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I love smoked Salmon & scrabbled eggs for breakfast
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Not just those two recipes but the whole pro points diet plan. What are your views on that rather than a particular recipe.
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That's not strange at all!
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Why be confused, I just dont like it does that explain it to you
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I guess just because I'm amazed you haven't heard of the combo!
![]() Where did I mention that I had not heard of the combo plan ? I follow Slimming world extra easy plan. ![]() going out now will catch up tomorrow
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Oh, o.k. then
Where did I mention that I had not heard of the combo plan ?
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Oh, o.k. then
Where did I mention that I had not heard of the combo plan ? I follow Slimming world extra easy plan. ![]() going out now will catch up tomorrow ![]() .....the answer is that plenty of us would - it's a classic combination. |
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I don't understand how people ever fall for these stupid weight loss groups, weightwatchers in particular seems set up solely to promote it's large range of crappy food products and gadgets.
Eat less fat, cut down on carbs, eat less in general and move more. That's pretty much it. It works. |
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I lost 5 stone on WW points plan over 3 years ago and have kept it off ever since by following the plan and exercising 3 times a week.
I am using the new ProPoints plan now. It doesn't work for some but it works for me. I eat healthy, home cooked food and don't really buy any WW products except the odd thing but never ready meals. What it has taught me is all basic stuff, portion control probably being the biggest thing. From what I can see with the ProPoints plan so far is that it encourages you to eat fruit, veg, lean protein. Carbs seem to be more heavily weighted than they were on Points. Horses for courses, it doesn't work for some but those who do use it are not necessarily numpties and it can be successful for some. I'm very pleased with what it has done for me
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I don't understand how people ever fall for these stupid weight loss groups, weightwatchers in particular seems set up solely to promote it's large range of crappy food products and gadgets.
Eat less fat, cut down on carbs, eat less in general and move more. That's pretty much it. It works. |
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weightwatchers in particular seems set up solely to promote it's large range of crappy food products and gadgets.
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I have just been looking at the new weight watchers diet revolution, free with today's daily mail.
What a load of tosh, seems to me its like a spin off from the slimming world diet. How much time do these diet advisors think we have, to be continually in the kitchen cooking meals ? Some of the recipes are quite bizarre to say the least. Who would eat scrambled eggs with smoked salmon for breakfast , or fried potatoes turkey rashers and beans for another breakfast. The whole diet plan looks so complicated. Who finds this plan very good or who finds the plan not so good ? Just a thought. ![]() Most diets these days tend to be moving away from carbs and putting more emphasis on slow release carbs which keep you feeling fuller for longer and on protein which is more difficult for your body to digest than carbs therefore uses up more energy getting through your body. That is the major difference between propoints and the old weightwatchers plan (which was basically calorie counting with an emphasis on eating lots of veg). But you still count points as you always did (loosely based on calories) and you can still choose to eat anything - you are not forced to eat turkey rashers for breakfast! It is very easy to knock these nationwide slimming groups and it is also very easy to say 'eat less, move more, what's so hard to understand?' but it's horses for courses - some people prefer to have a weekly incentive and others prefer to have the support of a group to help them with their weight loss. I am one of the former type - if I want to lose some weight, I'll join ww and go along, pay the money and get weighed each week. Sounds ridiculous, I know, but without the weekly formal weigh-in, I am not very good at keeping to a diet. I never buy their products though (except the occasional bottle of wine) as I do object to giving them any more money for old rope! |
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My friend lost 4 stone on this a few years ago and has kept it off. Effectively it's just another way of eating within a calorie controlled diet, so what's wrong with that? She also never bothered with the pre packed WW meals as she said they weren't very nice and as she has a family, not practical either, so i don't see your point?
I just don't see why people pay so much money when there is more high quality information about good diet and exercise available online for free than a person could ever need. |
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Weightwatchers is pretty versatile - you don't have to eat anything - only what you choose to eat. You are right though - the whole pro points thing is getting more similar to slimming world in that it is encouraging you to eat fewer carbs and take in more calories from protein rich food.
Most diets these days tend to be moving away from carbs and putting more emphasis on slow release carbs which keep you feeling fuller for longer and on protein which is more difficult for your body to digest than carbs therefore uses up more energy getting through your body. That is the major difference between propoints and the old weightwatchers plan (which was basically calorie counting with an emphasis on eating lots of veg). But you still count points as you always did (loosely based on calories) and you can still choose to eat anything - you are not forced to eat turkey rashers for breakfast! It is very easy to knock these nationwide slimming groups and it is also very easy to say 'eat less, move more, what's so hard to understand?' but it's horses for courses - some people prefer to have a weekly incentive and others prefer to have the support of a group to help them with their weight loss. I am one of the former type - if I want to lose some weight, I'll join ww and go along, pay the money and get weighed each week. Sounds ridiculous, I know, but without the weekly formal weigh-in, I am not very good at keeping to a diet. I never buy their products though (except the occasional bottle of wine) as I do object to giving them any more money for old rope! |
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I paid the money for the support and encouragement I got at the meetings and in actual fact it's only about £20 a month and free once you reach your target.
You'd be surprised how many people are quite ignorant about the basics of healthy eating and have no concept of how to change their diets. I was constantly amazed how many people at WW meetings said they didn;t like any fruit or veg I haven't been to a meeting for over a year now and do most stuff online but I think I am sufficiently reprogrammed now not to need to a weekly nudge
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My point is, all they do is take the basic principle of eating healthier food and less crap and make it elaborate enough to look like something amazing.
I just don't see why people pay so much money when there is more high quality information about good diet and exercise available online for free than a person could ever need. |
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My point is, all they do is take the basic principle of eating healthier food and less crap and make it elaborate enough to look like something amazing.
I just don't see why people pay so much money when there is more high quality information about good diet and exercise available online for free than a person could ever need. |
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*Shudder* I didn't know they had started making wine. Is it made to the same 'high' standard as their food? (as in to say, overpriced and tasting of cardboard)
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I suggest you buy no ww products - simples! How hard can that be?
![]() I'm not making assumptions. One of my closest friends has always struggled with her weight (largely because she loves pastry and thinks exercise is walking from the house to a taxi). She joined it about 5 years ago, bought all the books, the silly little electronic diary that tells you how many points are in things etc. Lost 2lbs in the first week and put 3lbs on in the second. Which is how I know about it, I had a read through the literature out of curiosity and tried some of her weightwatcher meals. Never, ever again. |
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I don't. Never have either.
I'm not making assumptions. One of my closest friends has always struggled with her weight (largely because she loves pastry and thinks exercise is walking from the house to a taxi). She joined it about 5 years ago, bought all the books, the silly little electronic diary that tells you how many points are in things etc. Lost 2lbs in the first week and put 3lbs on in the second. Which is how I know about it, I had a read through the literature out of curiosity and tried some of her weightwatcher meals. Never, ever again. |
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I don't. Never have either.
I'm not making assumptions. One of my closest friends has always struggled with her weight (largely because she loves pastry and thinks exercise is walking from the house to a taxi). She joined it about 5 years ago, bought all the books, the silly little electronic diary that tells you how many points are in things etc. Lost 2lbs in the first week and put 3lbs on in the second. Which is how I know about it, I had a read through the literature out of curiosity and tried some of her weightwatcher meals. Never, ever again. As I have said before, it is very easy to knock slimming organisations and to overlook the success stories of the thousands of people they have helped - particularly when you have limited information. |
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