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I probably would for my cat but not for my dog - she's too old and fat.
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Yes they can
If i was that little girl i know which i'd prefer to have back and it wouldn't be the dog. I really have to disagree with you on this, It just wouldn't enter my mind to jump in after a pet. But, would you tell someone who had a baby die that you can just have another? Or if they had a friend die, then just find a new one? I doubt that you would. |
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I would go on to ice or in a raging river if my dog was in trouble.
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it would be automatic and you'd just do it ..
I wouldn't.
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I'm a weak swimmer and actually quite scared of the sea so I doubt I would jump in after the dog, although I would be pretty hysterical if I saw it drowning.
It's hypothetical anyway as my dog isn't allowed off it's lead as it has no common sense |
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This is the basis of any attachment though surely. Our need to be "needed"?
I can not form an emotional bond with a paper clip because it does not rely on me for its needs. Any more I could a cat as I know it will happily take up residence with anyone that fulfils its needs. A dog forms a dependence on its "master" which is rewarded with a real, psychological " need" from its owner.
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Off topic but cats can be quite interactive as well. This always cheers me up and on such a downer of a thread some cheer is needed (it's only 17 secs so give it a look
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That's up to you. I do accept that not everyone has as an emotional attachment as some to animals.
But, would you tell someone who had a baby die that you can just have another? Or if they had a friend die, then just find a new one? I doubt that you would. |
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This is the basis of any attachment though surely. Our need to be "needed"?
I can not form an emotional bond with a paper clip because it does not rely on me for its needs. Any more I could a cat as I know it will happily take up residence with anyone that fulfils its needs. A dog forms a dependence on its "master" which is rewarded with a real, psychological " need" from its owner. A dog will adapt to its environment same as any other animal and displays no more loyalty than a cat, other than making stupid expressions and barking. My cats always jump on the sofa and try and cuddle me. Stop stroking them and see what a reaction you get! No different to a dog in that respect. Put a dog with a new family and after a few weeks/months it won't know the difference any more than a cat will. Kittens and puppies have always been weened in the same way. Hot water bottle under a blanket in their box and a ticking clock was what my Mum taught us. The warmth from the hot water bottle and the ticking clock representing the heart beat of the mother. My cats spend most of the day outside when I'm at work. When I come home there they are at the back door. I let them in and it's all purrs and rubbing all over my legs wanting me to feed them. No different to a dog bounding up and down, drooling and barking waiting to be fed. Cats are natural hunters though and will forage for food if they are hungry, whereas dogs eat their own.... |
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And someone from the rescue services would probably have to risk his/her neck, saving you.
I wouldn't. |
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I'm a weak swimmer and actually quite scared of the sea so I doubt I would jump in after the dog, although I would be pretty hysterical if I saw it drowning.
It's hypothetical anyway as my dog isn't allowed off it's lead as it has no common sense What a strange dolphin you are
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This is the basis of any attachment though surely. Our need to be "needed"?
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Well I'm not asking them to.
It's their duty to go to the aid of anyone in difficulties, even if they got into those difficulties by their own recklessness/stupidity. |
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What an awful statement that is, If you think a pets life has the same worth as a humans,Then there is something sadly lacking in your life.
My point was that because you can get another of something doesn't mean you can replace the original. I can't believe someone who has a cat can be so cold about it, tbh. |
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Well I'm not asking them to .I couldnt stand by and watch my dog drown or be swept away and i didnt lift a finger .How can people rationalise that .
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I do not underestimate, or belittle any cat owners affection & bond to their pet.
That is not my intention. I do not doubt your love for your pet. I know it is love too. There is no other way to describe how we feel about our pets. |
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My dogs are my children, sad I know, so I'm sure my natural instinct would be to save them.
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I would try and rescue my dog.
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My dogs are my children, sad I know, so I'm sure my natural instinct would be to save them.
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It's not 'sad' in the slightest.
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It's completely understandable why people do it.
To some people, their pets are members of the family. You may not see it this way with your own pets, but you can't tell someone else what the value of their pets is to them. |
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It can appear rather tragic to non animal folk though
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Do you not think you are being the slightest bit overdramatic?
My point was that because you can get another of something doesn't mean you can replace the original. I can't believe someone who has a cat can be so cold about it, tbh. If my cat gets injured in anyway i take him to the vets, I feed him, stroke him, basically care for him in every way that a pet owner should, That's the emotional attachment i have with my cat. Yes, it would be sad if he died, We've had 2 cats die in the last year, 1 was run over, 1 died of cancer Sad? yes definitely. Am i being overdramatic? Not in the slightest. You see, I hold a humans life way way above the life of a pet. Now, no matter how much i care for that cat, if it came down to it drowning, and the possibility of me drowning too ( if i jumped in after it ). Here's my choice , We lose the cat, My kids get to keep their father. If i jump in, my kids lose their father and the cat. It's not really that much of a choice, The cat drowns everytime. I get to go home to my kids Why? Because my kids mean more to me than a cat. People who jump in rivers or the sea after their pets, Really need to stop and think, Is it really worth it? My answer is No, never Am i being cold? Probably to some people like yourself, But i don't think i am
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Well you can rationalise it as being "pathetic"; but it takes a cold heart to watch your own pet dying and not do anything about it. Sometimes the heart rules the head.
Although in this case there's the question of whether or not the dogs would've been ok if left. They're very good at surviving in such circumstances (better than people.) I am a mother of 2, have 2 dogs and numerous other animals and although I would hate to see any of them suffer in any way, I would not risk my life for them and possibly leave my children motherless. MY OH has said he would save the dogs from a raging fire and I have stated if he ever risked his life for the dogs (or other animal) I would never speak to him again (assuming he lived that is), yes it may make me cold, unfeeling etc etc but in all instances my children are my priority. |
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If my cat gets injured in anyway i take him to the vets, I feed him, stroke him, basically care for him in every way that a pet owner should, That's the emotional attachment i have with my cat.
Yes, it would be sad if he died, We've had 2 cats die in the last year, 1 was run over, 1 died of cancer Sad? yes definitely. Am i being overdramatic? Not in the slightest. You see, I hold a humans life way way above the life of a pet. Now, no matter how much i care for that cat, if it came down to it drowning, and the possibility of me drowning too ( if i jumped in after it ). Here's my choice , We lose the cat, My kids get to keep their father. If i jump in, my kids lose their father and the cat. It's not really that much of a choice, The cat drowns everytime. I get to go home to my kids Why? Because my kids mean more to me than a cat. People who jump in rivers or the sea after their pets, Really need to stop and think, Is it really worth it? My answer is No, never Am i being cold? Probably to some people like yourself, But i don't think i am ![]() And if it came down to saving a kid and saving a cat, the cat would win hands down. After all, the parents can always have another. |
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I would. Without compunction. As far as I'm concerned, our pets have as much value to me as any other member of our family.
Proud to be stupid. Animals need advocates. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-12143079 Really sad story. I'm so sorry for his family but he did the right thing I pity your family if you value your pets lives as much as theirs. |
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