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Risk your life to save your pet?
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MGS4SnakeRulez
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by RubusRoo:
“But then you don't have the same emotional attachment to your cats as us dog owners do.

They (cats) are fiercely independent & total "food whores".”

What a complete loads of bollocks.
Emzie21
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by MGS4SnakeRulez:
“What a complete loads of bollocks.”

hahaaaa this is how I wanted to phrase my response!
kelly82
11-01-2011
i dont think i could or would risk my life for my pets, and i would be furious if my husband or kids did so. if one of my daughters fell into a raging river, yes i would jump in and try to save her, if my dog did it, well she would have to try to help herself. leaving my family motherless and my husband without a wife would be too much for me to risk. yes i would be hysterical trying to get her to come to me, or trying to find a way to save her, but i wouldnt risk mine or anyone elses life to get to her. i adore my pets, but i adore my family more.
lozenger
12-01-2011
Originally Posted by Magenta01:
“I probably shouldn't reply to this thread but I feel absolutely compelled to. I spent three hours trying to save this man and I met all of his family and in all of my nursing career, I can't say that I've been more affected by a death and to be honest, whilst I do understand that people feel the need to discuss the should you/shouldn't you aspect, a man died and although thankfully most here were not disrespectful directly to the person involved or his daughter, I just don't think it is appropriate to discuss a case where a large family, including 5 children are grieving the loss of a much loved dad.

The gentleman loved his dogs as he loved his family as I understand it. He would not have thought twice, whether others would do the same is obviously up for discussion, but preferably not in direct discussion of this tragic loss. Sure, this is a topical debate, but when directed towards a particular case where a father has died days ago (on the day of the initial post) prematurely in tragic circumstances, a bit of respect is required surely.”

Oh god, how awful! I cant even imagine how difficult that must have been.
jifster
12-01-2011
I think there should be a campaign to raise awareness of the dangers of walking animals in bad weather anywhere near rivers or the sea. I can never understand why people walk dogs near to frozen lakes, it really does bother me that it is not generally known that this is very dangerous and can only assume people are just not aware of their surroundings.

In bad and especially extreme weather, keep your dog on a lead.
miss_zelda
12-01-2011
Originally Posted by Benjamin74:
“I, for one, absolutely hate dogs. To me they are nasty smelly unclean creatures. I much prefer cats who to me have a much nicer nature than dogs. On the point of them being "loyal" I think cats are the intelligent ones. Cats know you'll love them unconditionally and always feed them and therefore don't have to pander to you or do stupid tricks. A dog on the other hand will jump through hoops to keep being your "best" friend.”

Cats like doing their own thing with a spot of company now and again whereas dogs are sociable pack animals. If a dog "will jump through hoops" there's no real thought process behind it other than, "If I do this I might get a biscuit. I like biscuits! This is fun." Both are utltimately motivated by food though really. The dog stays well behaved because it wants to be fed and the cat comes in now and again to say hi because it also wants to be fed. Cats are always looked at as being the complete opposite of dogs in terms of motive but I don't think they are all that different.

Dogs can be smelly but so can cats, particularly when their rancid smelling poo is radiating throughout the household when they refuse to go outside to do their business. I personally find the cat's bum really whiffy but I suppose it does insist on displaying it right in my face when I'm sitting down. I do like that most dogs will stay on the floor so I don't have to smell them too closely because the natural doggy smell is just never good.

Originally Posted by Benjamin74:
“I once read that while you might own a dog, a cat owns you and looks upon you as it's "person" rather than you looking upon it as your "pet".

That's intelligence!”

I'm not seeing how that's intelligence. Isn't that just a human trait being placed upon an animal in attempt on the owner's part to humour themselves? They will never own you because they rely on you for food and shelter. I'm not sure they even have the capacity to think such things and I doubt if they care if they're a 'pet' anyway as long as they get regular food and a stroke now and again.
miss_zelda
12-01-2011
Originally Posted by Magwash:
“That's up to you. I do accept that not everyone has as an emotional attachment as some to animals.

But, would you tell someone who had a baby die that you can just have another? Or if they had a friend die, then just find a new one? I doubt that you would.”

No-one would say that because grief for humans is on a different level entirely. I don't think it's even worth setting out why it's different. If you've ever lost someone close then you just know that it's an entirely different kettle of fish to losing a pet.
Iphigenia
12-01-2011
Originally Posted by Jakobjoe:
“I would go on to ice or in a raging river if my dog was in trouble .Yes i'd risk my life for him / it would be automatic and you'd just do it ..”

Yup.
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Magwash
12-01-2011
Originally Posted by miss_zelda:
“No-one would say that because grief for humans is on a different level entirely. I don't think it's even worth setting out why it's different. If you've ever lost someone close then you just know that it's an entirely different kettle of fish to losing a pet.”

Well I have lost someone very close, along with pets, so I do know what I'm talking about.
tingramretro
12-01-2011
Originally Posted by miss_zelda:
“No-one would say that because grief for humans is on a different level entirely. I don't think it's even worth setting out why it's different. If you've ever lost someone close then you just know that it's an entirely different kettle of fish to losing a pet.”

Rubbish. I've lost both humans and pets. Grief is grief. Species doesn't come into it. What you grieve for is your loss.
Magenta01
13-01-2011
Originally Posted by lozenger:
“Oh god, how awful! I cant even imagine how difficult that must have been.”

Thank you, I still think of it often, obviously as it hasn't been long. I just feel for the lovely family and wish that people would understand that the children may read this. He done what was right for him, I just done what I could, sadly it wasn't enough.
clairebear182
16-01-2011
I already have done when my cat was standing in the middle of a busy road. I ran into the middle of it the shoo him onto the pavement without regard for my own safety. I was inches away from getting ran over, but just didn't think. Must've been my caternal instincts. I'd do anything for my cat!
jules1000
16-01-2011
No I would'nt risk my life for a pet.
Flagg613
16-01-2011
Yes would definatly risk my life for my cats, Although if I managed to live, they would be complaining I hadn't fed them on time.
ManDingo1967
16-01-2011
I live in a second-floor flat and have 2 dogs and 4 house bunnies. I often think about what I would do if there was a fire. I actually have a plan of action for the rabbits involving lowering them to the ground in a carrier through the window on a rope and actually bought a rope for this purpose. Obviously this would take time and every second is crucial when you're in a burning building. However, I honestly don't think I could walk out the door and leave them behind. It's either all or none of us.
Roooty
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by ManDingo1967:
“I live in a second-floor flat and have 2 dogs and 4 house bunnies. I often think about what I would do if there was a fire. I actually have a plan of action for the rabbits involving lowering them to the ground in a carrier through the window on a rope and actually bought a rope for this purpose. Obviously this would take time and every second is crucial when you're in a burning building. However, I honestly don't think I could walk out the door and leave them behind. It's either all or none of us.”

I've made similar preparations for me and my cat. And I've had the same thoughts as you: by the time that I've faffed about trying to catch him (I'm sure he wouldn't be a happy cat during a fire) and get him out the window, I might be a goner!
rosemary
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by Roooty:
“I've made similar preparations for me and my cat. And I've had the same thoughts as you: by the time that I've faffed about trying to catch him (I'm sure he wouldn't be a happy cat during a fire) and get him out the window, I might be a goner! ”


I always worry about getting my pets out incase of fire, In my mind I think the dog would be easy to get out, rattle his lead and he would come to me, so I could get him out, the cat follows me everywhere anyway, so I could easily pick her up and get her out, but what used to worry me most was the goldfish...when he was alive I used to think of all the ways I could get him out...finally came up with a plan, and every night I started leaving a large mug next to his tank..then I thought, if there was a fire, I could just scoop him up and take him outside in it
Emzie21
17-01-2011
Originally Posted by rosemary:
“what used to worry me most was the goldfish...when he was alive I used to think of all the ways I could get him out...finally came up with a plan, and every night I started leaving a large mug next to his tank..then I thought, if there was a fire, I could just scoop him up and take him outside in it ”

hahahaaaa sorry that really made me giggle
academia
20-01-2011
I cannot believe that the man let his daughter go into the water - she could have drowned also. Probably he didn't stop to think -,but no way do you put your child at risk for an animal, no matter how loved.
Trifle Disaster
21-01-2011
If my house was on fire, I don't think I could ever forgive myself if I walked away and knew my cat or dog was inside. I think it's just a natural instinct to risk your life for someone you love.
blossom24
22-01-2011
I would definitely risk my life to save my dog. She means as much to me as any member of my family and I would gladly give 10 years of my life to give her an extra one year. She is nearly 12 and thought of life without her is a daily fear that equals the fear of losing a loved one and I know my husband feels the same.
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