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iPad 2 announcement on March 2nd
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Soundburst
20-01-2011
Originally Posted by Red Arrow:
“The great thing about Apple, something this thread proves, is that it's loyal customers could be queuing up before the ipad 2 is released and even before they actually announce what it's technical specs are.

The fact people here are saying they can't wait for it to be released to get it just shows how loyal people are. Or have they actually announced it's technical specs and I missed it? ”

Well not really otherwise:

I'd have bought a newer notebook since my 2006 MBP.

I'd have an iPhone 4.

I'd have an iPad 1.

People on here seem to think I'm a big massive fanboy - but if that was true, would I , as you say, queue up for the above products and have owned them?

I'm buying iPad 2 because I know - with iPad 1 - as it's foundation , it will be fantastic. I'd have bought an iPad instead in February if I knew a newer one wasn't coming out.
Red Arrow
20-01-2011
I was in no way saying your a fanboy, nor directing my post to you.

All I'm saying is if this was any other company in the world releasing a sequel to a piece of tech, you wouldn't have people jumping up and down to get one until they actually knew what it's technical specs are. I know for sure I wouldn't go out and spend £400+ on something that hasn't been reviewed yet.

My main point is Apple could easily not say a word about what it can do and you would still have record breaking day 1 sales.

I'm giving them praise.
alanwarwic
20-01-2011
Originally Posted by Soundburst:
“ with iPad 1 - as it's foundation , it will be fantastic. I'd have bought an iPad instead in February if I knew a newer one wasn't coming out.”

No one quite knows what it is yet.
Vallhund
20-01-2011
Originally Posted by Red Arrow:
“I was in no way saying your a fanboy, nor directing my post to you.

All I'm saying is if this was any other company in the world releasing a sequel to a piece of tech, you wouldn't have people jumping up and down to get one until they actually knew what it's technical specs are. I know for sure I wouldn't go out and spend £400+ on something that hasn't been reviewed yet.

My main point is Apple could easily not say a word about what it can do and you would still have record breaking day 1 sales.

I'm giving them praise.”

You are right about Apple not saying a word and making it a success, but the number of people obsessed with Tech specs are about equal in number to those with Volvo V70 Estates who are obsessed with the BHP of the car. Far more important that it does what you want it to.
Soundburst
20-01-2011
Originally Posted by Red Arrow:
“I was in no way saying your a fanboy, nor directing my post to you.

All I'm saying is if this was any other company in the world releasing a sequel to a piece of tech, you wouldn't have people jumping up and down to get one until they actually knew what it's technical specs are. I know for sure I wouldn't go out and spend £400+ on something that hasn't been reviewed yet.

My main point is Apple could easily not say a word about what it can do and you would still have record breaking day 1 sales.

I'm giving them praise.”

Oh I know mate. No problem at all - I was merely putting it out there for people that may think what I was saying.

The specs of iPad were panned by a lot of folk - and yet it's the best device for browsing the web.

It's about what it does.

I know it'll do things better than iPad 1 so it's win-win for me from the get-go
Red Arrow
21-01-2011
Well I wouldn't say it's the best device for browsing the net, it does have it's limits

I suppose your right, the specs don't have to be amazing for it to be a success. But I'm still curious as to what they have improved on it this time round apart from perhaps a faster version, to cause ipad 1 owners to upgrade.

Looking forward to finally seeing it, and hopefully playing with one at work
SPARKIE1984
21-01-2011
It's good for browsing but when your facing page reloads frequently it can get annoying. The lack of flash isn't the end of the world, but for a basic user who doesn't understand about flash can cause confusion why some sites don't work.

I was told about an app that wouldn't cause reloads but really it shouldn't do that out of the box
Cantona07
21-01-2011
Originally Posted by Red Arrow:
“Well I wouldn't say it's the best device for browsing the net, it does have it's limits

I suppose your right, the specs don't have to be amazing for it to be a success. But I'm still curious as to what they have improved on it this time round apart from perhaps a faster version, to cause ipad 1 owners to upgrade.

Looking forward to finally seeing it, and hopefully playing with one at work ”

I think you would need to have a serious amount of disposable income to feel the need to upgrade, however I think there are a lot of people who have simply held off from buying knowing that there is going to be a newer version coming out. People like to have the newest thing I guess.
Stunty
22-01-2011
So the main up grades on the ipad 2 are that it has Flash and a camera? Are there any other significant differences?


I'm tempted by the ipad but if there is a better model in the offing I think I will wait for it. Hopefully they won't have much inflated prices.
John259
22-01-2011
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“So the main up grades on the ipad 2 are that it has Flash and a camera?”

There are no facts yet, only rumour, conjecture and speculation.

Adobe Flash Player seems extremely unlikely as Apple have a fear and hatred of it.

Flash memory is used in iPad1 and that is virtually certain to continue in iPad2.

Most people guess that iPad2 will have one or two cameras but the only people who know for sure aren't saying yet.

One other common guess is that iPad2 will have more ram.

As for screen size and resolution, there are numerous conflicting rumours.

Yes, it does seem wise to avoid purchasing now until we know for sure what the spec of iPad2 will really be.
alanwarwic
22-01-2011
Originally Posted by Stunty:
“So the main up grades on the ipad 2 are that it has Flash and a camera? .”

The only way Flash will appear is if Apple become worried about government anti-competition investigations.

Its a web application interface that can compete against the app store. Business is business so would you let it in if you ran Apple?
SPARKIE1984
22-01-2011
I think you'd be crazy to buy an ipad now, when you will certainly get a better version in a month or so.
Matt D
22-01-2011
April announcement > April launch, or maybe March announcement > April launch, seems most likely, I think.

There first came out in April last year, and Apple does love to have annual product cycles (iPhone *every* summer, iPod Touch *every* September).

I don't think it will be announced as early as iPad 1 was (end of Jan last year), because it's not the 1st generation so doesn't need the hype. Announcing early could also affect sales of iPad 1. [The original iPhone was announced early, but all subsequent models have been announced not long before launch in the summer].
scofield
22-01-2011
Stunning. Gorgeous. Revolutionary device.
fifilapew
22-01-2011
Originally Posted by scofield:
“Stunning. Gorgeous. Revolutionary device.”

You forgot magical, how could you forget magical??
GetFrodo
23-01-2011
Originally Posted by Red Arrow:
“All I'm saying is if this was any other company in the world releasing a sequel to a piece of tech, you wouldn't have people jumping up and down to get one until they actually knew what it's technical specs are. I know for sure I wouldn't go out and spend £400+ on something that hasn't been reviewed yet.”

While the comparison pains me, there are certainly enough people who will put down tens of thousands as deposit for a sportscar on the basis of just a name and a few lines of marketing waffle....
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Matt D
16-02-2011
So, further rumours and speculation regarding the upcoming iPad 2... and iPad 3.

It's a given that there will be an iPad 2 in/around April. It fits with the annual product cycle Apple loves so much (e.g. a new iPhone every summer, a new iPod Touch every September), it's needed due to there actually being some attempt at competition this year from other CE manufacturers, and of course all the tech blogs & sites are assured by their sources that it will happen and that it is already in manufacture.

As mentioned earlier in the thread, features for the iPad 2 which seem pretty much definite (as much as can be without an announcement, of course) are that it will be slimmer and lighter, feature a front-facing camera (& perhaps also one on the rear), and hopefully also more RAM and a faster CPU.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...125168876.html


Earlier rumours also mentioned a new "Apple A5" system-on-a-chip, containing a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU and a PowerVR SGX543 GPU (compared to the single-core ARM Cortex-A8 CPU and PowerVR SGX535 GPU in the iPad 1 & iPhone 4's "Apple A4"). This would be comparable to the Tegra 2 (Cortex-A9 plus GeForce ULP) & similar used in various upcoming competitors of the iPad.

Some rumours also claimed that the iPad 2 would feature a "Retina display"... but others claimed otherwise... It would cost too much to do that so soon as it would need a bigger bump in CPU/GPU/RAM, etc. as well as display tech improvements.

It now seems, according to the tech blogs etc. & their sources, that there may well actually be two iPads released this year:

~April (1 year after iPad 1): iPad 2. Slimmer & lighter, camera, more RAM & hopefully a faster CPU... But still using an Apple A4, with the A5 held off until the iPhone 5 in June.

September (the rumoured "big surprise" during the annual iPod Touch reveal): iPad 3. More RAM again, plus... the Apple A5 (dual-core Cortex-A9 plus GeForce SX543) previously introduced in the iPhone 5, plus... a "Retina display", giving the iPad a massive boost in resolution.


The iPad 2 will be to the iPad 1 what the iPhone 3GS was to the 3G... bit faster, bit more RAM, minor improvements... While the iPad 3 will be the equivalent of the iPhone 4... Huge jump in power & resolution.


Releasing a third iPad, only five months after the second, could well alienate some people, but... It would help Apple stay ahead (or at least not fall behind) in the tech spec race, now there's finally going to be some serious competition, plus it would re-align the annual product cycle from what is a bit of a stupid time of year for this sort of thing to the much more lucrative run up to the "Holiday" season.

http://daringfireball.net/2011/02/the_next_six_months

http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/09/ipad-3/

http://www.padgadget.com/2011/02/09/...sed-this-fall/

http://www.padgadget.com/2011/02/16/...with-older-a4/
Soundburst
16-02-2011
Apple won't release a brand new iPad 4 months after a launch.

Unless the iPad 2 is a stealth upgrade much the same as a minor spec bump on the notebook.

A 4 month long product is a waste of time, money and effort - especially when iPad would sell perfectly fine up to September.
Red Arrow
16-02-2011
Unless all the rumours are wrong and they will be releasing two versions of the iPad, a standard one and a smaller one. This could be where all the smaller iPhone rumours are coming from?
Soundburst
16-02-2011
The smaller iPad is bemusing.

It's just an iPod Touch

I rarely even use my laptop to browse the net now, as you have to turn it on. . .it has a 2 hour battery. . .it is big. . . it gets warm. I just use my iPhone. iPad is the perfect internet browsing device.

Any smaller and you end up with one of those hideous other brands of yPad's you get in Currys that are too small for sustained use. iPad is perfeectly sized.

I don't even care about the speed upgrades as I've used iPad and it was great at browsing the web so I don't need a "Tegra" or Intel Core 6 Duo Quad for such a device.

I just don't want them releasing iPad 2 and then sticking a Retina display on iPad 3, 4 months later.

That would break my soul.
Red Arrow
16-02-2011
But maybe not as small as the touch, perhaps they will aim it at a different sector in the market like sort of a pda for businesses.
Gary Glimmer
16-02-2011
http://dlbates.com/Post/admitting-it...d-to-recovery/
Soundburst
16-02-2011
Originally Posted by Gary Glimmer:
“http://dlbates.com/Post/admitting-it...d-to-recovery/”

The guy in that link seems raging at a massive company's success

Hilarious. Perhaps he should take his own advice.

And I don't need 32gigs. Just the16.

His nerd rage amuses me.

Theyre only a company. What's his problem? People can buy what they like whether he's raging or not Bless 'em.
Red Arrow
17-02-2011
But he has a very valid point so don't go and dismiss it like that. I know many people who had the iPhone 3G, then when the 3GS came out a lot of them rushed out to get it, sometimes paying a fortune to get the upgrade as they were in a current contract.

It wasn't that much of a leap compared to the iPhone 4, so when I ask why they were getting it hardly anyone could give a valid argument besides "It's a bit better." A bit better isn't really a good enough reason to spend a fortune on a simple upgrade.

The iPad is an amazing device, as will be the iPad 2. But the point he is making is that people will go out who already own the original one and get the next one when perhaps there isn't too much of a difference.

If this was any other company you wouldn't have the same effect, that's the point he is making.
Burning Bright
17-02-2011
Originally Posted by Red Arrow:
“But he has a very valid point so don't go and dismiss it like that. I know many people who had the iPhone 3G, then when the 3GS came out a lot of them rushed out to get it, sometimes paying a fortune to get the upgrade as they were in a current contract.

It wasn't that much of a leap compared to the iPhone 4, so when I ask why they were getting it hardly anyone could give a valid argument besides "It's a bit better." A bit better isn't really a good enough reason to spend a fortune on a simple upgrade.

The iPad is an amazing device, as will be the iPad 2. But the point he is making is that people will go out who already own the original one and get the next one when perhaps there isn't too much of a difference.

If this was any other company you wouldn't have the same effect, that's the point he is making.”

But that's an individuals choice and if it makes them happy who cares? Apple can't force people to upgrade. I'm a mad Apple fangirl, everything I own if possible is Apple but they can't make me upgrade, that's my choice.

Fair enough some people take it to extremes, but those people are adults and are capable of making their own choices and if that's what they chose to do and spend their money on that's up to them.
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