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I doubt ITV have the cash to make a serious bid for the 6Nations, especially because they're currently in an expensive FA contract. Also if they were to bid, they would need to take into account that their ratings for 6Nations would probably be 25% down from what the BBC are getting (similar to what's happened with the FA Cup games), partly because they don't have the multimedia resources to promote and hype up the event like the BBC can[
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Yesterday's soap figures from DS:
BBC One 13:45- Doctors:1.88m (22.8%) ITV1 (inc. HD) 19:00- Emmerdale 7.55m (34.4%) 19:30- Coronation Street: 9.01m (36.6%) 20:30- Coronation Street: 7.68m (30.1%) * 20:30-20:55 Channel 4 18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.14m (5.3%) Channel 5 13:45- Neighbours: 824k (9.9%) 14:15- Home and Away: 405k (5.0%) 17:30- Neighbours: 1.40m (7.9%) 18:00- Home and Away: 948k (4.7%) E4 19:00- Hollyoaks: 350k (1.6%) Fiver 18:30- Home and Away: 573k (2.7%) Other ratings here: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...postcount=2695 |
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I doubt ITV have the cash to make a serious bid for the 6Nations, especially because they're currently in an expensive FA contract. Also if they were to bid, they would need to take into account that their ratings for 6Nations would probably be 25% down from what the BBC are getting (similar to what's happened with the FA Cup games), as they don't have the multimedia resources to promote and hype up the event like the BBC can (plus a few people refuse to watch sport on ITV apparently).
Embarrassing Bodies was up 0.1m from last week's comparable rating, so it did really well. Also, I could be wrong but that Million Pound Drop rating is perhaps its best ever... I can't remember it getting 2.5m+ on C4 alone before. It's doing really well this series and Fridays seem to be sorted for C4 for the next few weeks with the Em Bod/MPD combo. |
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Yesterday's soap figures from DS:
BBC One 13:45- Doctors:1.88m (22.8%) ITV1 (inc. HD) 19:00- Emmerdale 7.55m (34.4%) 19:30- Coronation Street: 9.01m (36.6%) 20:30- Coronation Street: 7.68m (30.1%) * 20:30-20:55 Channel 4 18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.14m (5.3%) Channel 5 13:45- Neighbours: 824k (9.9%) 14:15- Home and Away: 405k (5.0%) 17:30- Neighbours: 1.40m (7.9%) 18:00- Home and Away: 948k (4.7%) E4 19:00- Hollyoaks: 350k (1.6%) Fiver 18:30- Home and Away: 573k (2.7%) Other ratings here: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...postcount=2695 ![]() Emmerdale looks slightly healthier but Coronation Street must've been hurt by the rugby becaause neither figure is out of this world. The time checked figure shows the final five minutes really dented the rating, though. |
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Also if they were to bid, they would need to take into account that their ratings for 6Nations would probably be 25% down from what the BBC are getting (similar to what's happened with the FA Cup games), partly because they don't have the multimedia resources to promote and hype up the event like the BBC can.
Wouldn't the BBC's "multimedia resources" still report on the 6 Nations if ITV had the rights, like they do for other events that the BBC doesn't have the rights to - like football, The X Factor and I'm a Celeb - all of which the BBC endlessly promotes across all its outlets, to the detriment of its own output? Separately, I thought the verdict of The Times today on Outcasts was interesting: "Not since Bonekickers has the BBC broadcast such an irredeemably awful series .... This is dire" Sounds like fun. ![]() Explains why they are burning it off quickly. |
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I doubt ITV have the cash to make a serious bid for the 6Nations, especially because they're currently in an expensive FA contract. Also if they were to bid, they would need to take into account that their ratings for 6Nations would probably be 25% down from what the BBC are getting (similar to what's happened with the FA Cup games), partly because they don't have the multimedia resources to promote and hype up the event like the BBC can.
![]() In all seriousness, the majority of the Six Nations matches are in day time, and would drag in more viewers (and of the 'right' demo) than the current dross they air. As for evening matches...ITV are not exactly setting the world on fire with their Saturday night schedule so I can't see Six Nations denting it that much, if at all. With the random Friday match popping up they could always move the soap marathon to prop up Tuesday. I cannot deny there would be a serious dip though, and they'd have to get rid of the football first. In ITV's dreamworld they'd keep the Internationals and lose the FA Cup but the FA know this, hence selling the two as a package. |
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Ah yes, there are always mitigating circumstances for BBC1 getting better ratings for something than ITV...
Wouldn't the BBC's "multimedia resources" still report on the 6 Nations if ITV had the rights, like they do for other events that the BBC doesn't have the rights to - like football, The X Factor and I'm a Celeb - all of which the BBC endlessly promotes across all its outlets, to the detriment of its own output?
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Ah yes, there are always mitigating circumstances for BBC1 getting better ratings for something than ITV...
Wouldn't the BBC's "multimedia resources" still report on the 6 Nations if ITV had the rights, like they do for other events that the BBC doesn't have the rights to - like football, The X Factor and I'm a Celeb - all of which the BBC endlessly promotes across all its outlets, to the detriment of its own output? It's like the FA Cup - coverage and promotion of it on the BBC website and radio doesn't seem to be as much as there was previously when the BBC held the rights. Now, I'm not criticising the BBC for this but I'm simply explaining one of the reasons why ITV's ratings for sports tend to be lower than when the BBC show the exact same thing. |
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I think there are some people who have an irrational dislike of ITV and might not tune in. Sound familiar yet??
![]() ![]() Though to be fair with the overuse of soaps, reality TV and a dreadful period where everything with celebrity in it got commissioned (to the point where even 2DTV, an ITV1 programme, took the mick out of the channel) it's no surprise that ITV1 has lost the faith of so many members of the public...especially those who remember it in the 'good old days'. |
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I don't know why you're so annoyed about what I said because it's true that the BBC can promote live sporting events across TV/radio/online better than ITV can. That's just the way it is - it's partly ITV's own fault for offering poor online services and the fact that the BBC has other services such as radio which ITV doesn't. Of course the BBC would still report on the 6 Nations even if ITV had the rights but I doubt it would be as much as if they had the rights themselves, and also at the moment they say "you can watch it on BBC1 at 7:30pm etc" whereas I doubt they'd say "you can watch it on ITV1 at 7:30pm etc".
It's like the FA Cup - coverage and promotion of it on the BBC website and radio doesn't seem to be as much as there was previously when the BBC held the rights. Now, I'm not criticising the BBC for this but I'm simply explaining one of the reasons why ITV's ratings for sports tend to be lower than when the BBC show the exact same thing. |
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I don't know why you're so annoyed about what I said because it's true that the BBC can promote live sporting events across TV/radio/online better than ITV can. That's just the way it is - it's partly ITV's own fault for offering poor online services and the fact that the BBC has other services such as radio which ITV doesn't. Of course the BBC would still report on the 6 Nations even if ITV had the rights but I doubt it would be as much as if they had the rights themselves, and also at the moment they say "you can watch it on BBC1 at 7:30pm etc" whereas I doubt they'd say "you can watch it on ITV1 at 7:30pm etc".
t's like the FA Cup - coverage and promotion of it on the BBC website and radio doesn't seem to be as much as there was previously when the BBC held the rights. Now, I'm not criticising the BBC for this but I'm simply explaining one of the reasons why ITV's ratings for sports tend to be lower than when the BBC show the exact same thing. Quote:
Barclays Premier League http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...em/9384148.stmVenue: Molineux Date: Saturday, 5 February Kick-off: 1730 GMT Coverage: Watch live on ESPN and highlights on Match of the Day; listen on talkSPORT, BBC Radio 5 live and local radio; text commentary on BBC Sport website and mobiles But I agree, they don't actually announce it on radio/TV...would be bizarre of they did.
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Excellent numbers for the Six Nations coverage last night. The BBC will be delighted with that. Wales v England is always one of the biggest ties and it was a great match to start off the tournament. And I don't suppose ITV will be too annoyed to see 7m people demonstrating an interest in rugby already - they've the World Cup to come later this year. Quote:
Ah yes, there are always mitigating circumstances for BBC1 getting better ratings for something than ITV...
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Separately, I thought the verdict of The Times today on Outcasts was interesting:
"Not since Bonekickers has the BBC broadcast such an irredeemably awful series .... This is dire" Sounds like fun. ![]() Explains why they are burning it off quickly. ![]()
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at the moment they say "you can watch it on BBC1 at 7:30pm etc" whereas I doubt they'd say "you can watch it on ITV1 at 7:30pm etc".
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9388124.stm And like I say, the BBC promotes plenty of ITV1 stuff across all its outlets. The real reason fewer people watch football on ITV is because the coverage is crap and the presenters, pundits and commentators are (generally) much weaker than the BBC's (mostly) class-leading team. Fewer casual viewers, plus a few hardened football fans who will refuse to watch on principle. (The Football League Show excepted. Which is rubbish.) |
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I think there are some people who have an irrational dislike of ITV and might not tune in. Sound familiar yet??
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The BBC Sport website has been pointing readers towards ITV and Sky Sports etc for some time - see for example this in relation to the England game on Wednesday:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9388124.stm And like I say, the BBC promotes plenty of ITV1 stuff across all its outlets. The real reason fewer people watch football on ITV is because the coverage is crap and the presenters, pundits and commentators are (generally) much weaker than the BBC's (mostly) class-leading team. Fewer casual viewers, plus a few hardened football fans who will refuse to watch on principle. (The Football League Show excepted. Which is rubbish.) |
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Ouch, ouch, ouch. Thats a stinger. The only review I'd seen thus far was moderately positive. But then again, that was 'Den of Geek' who tend to be into this sort of thing...
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"Sometimes catastrophes on this scale can be enjoyed precisely because they are so dismal, but this one has a kind of grinding badness that defies enjoyment of any kind"
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"Dear, oh dear!"
That said, David Chater in The Times has particular tastes. He slags off The Apprentice every week, for example.
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I thought the verdict of The Times today on Outcasts was interesting:
"Not since Bonekickers has the BBC broadcast such an irredeemably awful series .... This is dire" Sounds like fun. ![]() Explains why they are burning it off quickly. The Bonekickers thread on here was hilarious. I just hope Outcasts manages to be so bad that it's entertaining
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The real reason fewer people watch football on ITV is because the coverage is crap and the presenters, pundits and commentators are (generally) much weaker than the BBC's (mostly) class-leading team. Fewer casual viewers, plus a few hardened football fans who will refuse to watch on principle.
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I should be more like you. Have an irrational dislike of another broadcaster, but nevertheless still watch their programmes...
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Great night for BBC1 with the rugby performing excellently against the competition. On the other hand BBC2 seems quite low apart from Mastermind. They don't seem to have many solid 2m+ hits atm, as Channel 4 seems to be gaining viewers.
Another steady figure for Emmerdale and the first Corrie performed OK, but the 2nd one completely lost momentum. I really don't understand why ITV don't just merge the two Corrie's together when there's event TV on BBC1-every time the second one falls. It gives Children's Hospital a small boost, but I would say it would manage around 4m at 8.30pm, and Comedy Rocks can't do any worse without the Corrie lead in! OK night for Ch5. Most slots ate hitting 1m, which is their target, but they only seem to have CSI:NY capable of hitting 2m atm. |
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Ah yes, there are always mitigating circumstances for BBC1 getting better ratings for something than ITV...
Wouldn't the BBC's "multimedia resources" still report on the 6 Nations if ITV had the rights, like they do for other events that the BBC doesn't have the rights to - like football, The X Factor and I'm a Celeb - all of which the BBC endlessly promotes across all its outlets, to the detriment of its own output? ![]() Quote:
Separately, I thought the verdict of The Times today on Outcasts was interesting:
"Not since Bonekickers has the BBC broadcast such an irredeemably awful series .... This is dire" Sounds like fun. ![]() Explains why they are burning it off quickly. ![]() I don't understand the scheduling tactic, though. Why tie up two prime time slots that have inherited big audiences from Silent Witness? If the BBC know it's bad why are they not hiding it away in a less prominent slot? Friday after Hustle was said to be the original intention and would have been much more low key. Or Tuesdays at 9pm which is where other series have been sent to die.
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A few demos from yesterday: http://i53.tinypic.com/20l1r9e.jpg
Six Nations had the most ABC1 viewers in primetime. It almost beat Corrie (19:30) among 16-34s, I suspect it beat the 20:30 edition. |
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But a great night for BBC1, which leads me to think that ITV may make a bid for the Six Nations when the current contract is up, though I have no idea when that is! The demos will have been much better for the rugby than the soa. ![]() Not surprised by last nights rating, it was a cracking game, great start to the series. |
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corrie could also be hurt by EE fans not having turned there TVs on that night
![]() Not liking the reports on Outcasts, seems to have a great cast, not sure where its gone wrong. |
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Ah yes, there are always mitigating circumstances for BBC1 getting better ratings for something than ITV...
Wouldn't the BBC's "multimedia resources" still report on the 6 Nations if ITV had the rights, like they do for other events that the BBC doesn't have the rights to - like football, The X Factor and I'm a Celeb - all of which the BBC endlessly promotes across all its outlets, to the detriment of its own output? Separately, I thought the verdict of The Times today on Outcasts was interesting: "Not since Bonekickers has the BBC broadcast such an irredeemably awful series .... This is dire" Sounds like fun. ![]() Explains why they are burning it off quickly. |
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