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The Ratings Thread (Part 16)
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Dancc
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“data for week ending 30th January 2011 now loive on BARB website

enjoy!”

Good week for ESPN, up to a 0.4% audience share. Top rated programmes were:

1. FA Cup: Fulham v Tottenham (Sun 1530-1900) 427,000
2. FA Cup: Everton v Chelsea (Sat 1130-1445) 399,000
3. Barclays Premier League: Blackpool v Manchester United (Tue 1830-2200) 387,000
4. FA Cup: Arsenal v Huddersfield Town (Sun 1100-1415) 344,000
5. SPL: Hibernian v Rangers (Wed 1915-2200) 107,000

Probably their best week ever in terms of reach. (2.52 million)
mlt11
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“data for week ending 30th January 2011 now loive on BARB website

enjoy!”

Mike the total overall shares for the week only add up to 98.7%.

I know I've asked about this before but is nobody able to provide an explanation?

On the face of it all share figures may be being incorrectly calculated.
spkx
07-02-2011
Could not not just be rounding? e.g. trivial example 3 channels with shares 49.4%, 50.4% and 0.2%, when rounded to nearest whole % that's 49% 50% and 0% = 99%
Dancc
07-02-2011
WEEK 4 OF OFFICIAL RATINGS 2011

BBC One – 20.5% (up 1.2% year-on-year)
BBC Two – 7.4% (up 7.4% year-on-year)
ITV 1 – 17.0% (up 1.7% year-on-year)
Channel 4 – 7.2% (down 4.4% year-on-year)
Channel 5 – 4.4% (up 1.4% year-on-year)
all include HD where appropriate, excluding +1.

Even with My Big Fat Gypsy Weddings and Embarrassing Bodies scoring record highs, it was not enough to stop C4 losing audience share year-on-year. In the equivalent week in 2010, Celebrity Big Brother bowed out.

BBC Two, the biggest riser this week, was boosted by Top Gear and football.

audience share data courtesy of BARB.co.uk.
Dancc
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Mike the total overall shares for the week only add up to 98.7%.

I know I've asked about this before but is nobody able to provide an explanation?

On the face of it all share figures may be being incorrectly calculated.”

Share figures are often incorrectly calculated in my experience of doing the weekly share report. I work them out manually to make sure there are no errors.

For example for the w/c January 17, BARB claims BBC Two had a 7.2% share.

It also states that the average viewer watched 1781 minutes of television, of which 127 minutes were BBC Two.

(1781 / 127) x 100 = 7.130825379000561

So where does BARB get 7.2 from? Only theory I had was that it was automatically including HD for the shows that are simulcast on BBC HD, but I've since seen similar miscalculations for other channels.
Georged123
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“Interesting that Lark Rise has dropped since news that it was to be axed came out.

Looks they should have waited, perhaps announcing it the weekend of the final episode or something?”

It probably wasnt helped by such a tiny lead-out and possibly viewers deciding to watch Wild At Heart/ITV as come 9pm BBC had pretty much stopped broadcasting.

Originally Posted by rzt:
“[u22:45- Freddie Flintoff versus the World: 803,000 (6.9%)”

If ever a show deserved a crap rating it was this. I dont mind Freddie but ITV deserve all they get for paying him to play paintballing whilst paragliding.

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I suppose the BBC would argue that BBC Two, Three and Four were all showing new programmes in that timeslot, so although the main channel was in repeat mode, there was a lot of fresh choice across the BBC network as a whole. (1 drama, 2x factual)”

Exactly. Although some people are very narrow minded and just think the BBC is only BBC1.

Originally Posted by rzt:
“The Wallander rating is a million lower than I expected - it was a weird choice to repeat because the first-run episodes don't rate brilliantly anyway and as good as it is, I don't think it's the sort of show people would want to watch again. George Gently or New Tricks would've got 3.5m+ in that slot.”

Although I dont agree with show a Wallendar repeat I can see why it was done. Repeating a show in an attempt to boost figures for future new episodes and justifying the cost of the episode more by increasing reach.

From a purely ratings term New Tricks or George Gently would have been better but no doubt the naysayers would be moaning at the Beeb for yet another repeat of the same shows.
mlt11
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by spkx:
“Could not not just be rounding? e.g. trivial example 3 channels with shares 49.4%, 50.4% and 0.2%, when rounded to nearest whole % that's 49% 50% and 0% = 99%”

No, because EVERY single week the numbers add to well under 100% (usually around 99.0%).

The numbers being added are to one decimal place.

Also note we are only talking about adding 7 separate numbers. Even if every number was at its outer limit - eg 6.5 was really 6.549 it would only add 0.35% overall.

It is definitely not rounding.
mlt11
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Share figures are often incorrectly calculated in my experience of doing the weekly share report. I work them out manually to make sure there are no errors.

For example for the w/c January 17, BARB claims BBC Two had a 7.2% share.

It also states that the average viewer watched 1781 minutes of television, of which 127 minutes were BBC Two.

(1781 / 127) x 100 = 7.130825379000561

So where does BARB get 7.2 from? Only theory I had was that it was automatically including HD for the shows that are simulcast on BBC HD, but I've since seen similar miscalculations for other channels.”

That IS due to rounding.

127 minutes could be up to 127.499 minutes.

(127.499/1781) * 100 = 7.1588

which rounds to 7.2%
D.M.N.
07-02-2011
As expected last night; apart from the fact Wallander repeat sort of flopped. Adrian Chiles won his slot, miracles do happen it seems.

Changes are highlighted.

Most Watched Shows of 2011 [Top 20 - Officials]
01 - 12.39m - CORONATION STREET (03/01/11) - ITV1/HD
02 - 11.42m - EASTENDERS (03/01/11) - BBC1/HD
03 - 10.23m - DANCING ON ICE (09/01/11) - ITV1/HD
04 - 9.15m - EMMERDALE (13/01/11) - ITV1*
05 - 8.80m - COME FLY WITH ME (01/01/11) - BBC1/HD

06 - 8.69m - WILD AT HEART (09/01/11) - ITV1/HD
07 - 8.50m - SILENT WITNESS (17/01/11) - BBC1/HD
08 - 7.91m - FILM: INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL (01/01/11) - BBC1/HD
09 - 7.68m - LARK RISE TO CANDLEFORD (09/01/11) - BBC1/HD
10 - 7.50m - ABOVE SUSPICION (03/01/11) - ITV1/HD

11 - 7.48m - BIG FAT GYPSY WEDDINGS (25/01/11) - C4
12 - 7.38m - TOP GEAR (23/01/11) - BBC2/HD
13 - 7.15m - BBC NEWS (03/01/11) - BBC1/HD
14 - 7.04m - HUSTLE (14/01/11) - BBC1/HD
15 - 6.95m - CASUALTY (02/01/11) - BBC1/HD

16 - 6.93m - MIDSOMER MURDERS (12/01/11) - ITV1/HD
17 - 6.92m - COUNTRYFILE (30/01/11) - BBC1/HD
18 - 6.92m - ANTIQUES ROADSHOW (02/01/11) - BBC1/HD
19 - 6.69m - THE NATIONAL LOTTERY - IN IT TO WIN IT (29/01/11) - BBC1/HD
20 - 6.65m - ERIC AND ERNIE (01/01/11) - BBC2

Notes:
- No duplicates: i.e. no BGT/DOI in there twice.
- HD audience included for all programmes airing on HD, unless a * is next to the programme
- BBC1 HD is bundled in automatically with BBC1
- ITV1 +1 excluded
- Thanks to MattJ and rzt for some of the missing ratings off BARB
- The National Television Awards had 6.58m excluding HD; good chance it will be in the chart near the bottom if the HD figure was included

Most Watched Multichannel Shows of 2011 [Top 20 - Officials]
01 - 2.65m - LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY - MATCH (16/01/11) - Sky Sports 1
02 - 2.63m - GLEE (17/01/11) - E4
03 - 2.00m - HATTIE (19/01/11) - BBC4
04 - 1.57m - BEING HUMAN (23/01/11) - BBC3
05 - 1.42m - LIVE FORD FOOTBALL SPECIAL (01/01/11) - Sky Sports 1

06 - 1.41m - MIDSOMER MURDERS (08/01/11) - ITV3
07 - 1.34m - GOT TO DANCE (02/01/11) - Sky1
08 - 1.21m - THIS IS YOUR LIFE: HATTIE JACQUES (19/01/11) - BBC4
09 - 1.20m - LIVE CARLING CUP FOOTBALL (12/01/11) - Sky Sports 1
10 - 1.18m - EASTENDERS (27/01/11) - BBC3

11 - 1.12m - FOYLE'S WAR (16/01/11) - ITV3
12 - 1.10m - LEWIS (30/01/11) - ITV3
13 - 1.07m - THE ASHES TOUR (06/01/11) - ITV4
14 - 1.04m - BENIDORM (09/01/11) - ITV2
15 - 1.03m - SKINS (27/01/11) - E4

16 - 1.03m - FILM: THE INCREDIBLES (08/01/11) - BBC3
17 - 1.03m - LIVE AT THE APOLLO (15/01/11) - BBC3
18 - 1.01m - FILM: MEET THE FOCKERS (04/01/11) - BBC3
19 - 0.98m - FILM: CASINO ROYALE (04/01/11) - ITV2
20 - 0.95m - FILM: SHREK THE THIRD (30/01/11) - BBC3

Source: BARB. Excludes +1, Includes HD for Terrestrial Chart. Only 1 programme per 'show', i.e. only one Ford Super Sunday game.
Mike Teevee
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Mike the total overall shares for the week only add up to 98.7%.

I know I've asked about this before but is nobody able to provide an explanation?

On the face of it all share figures may be being incorrectly calculated.”

Originally Posted by spkx:
“Could not not just be rounding? e.g. trivial example 3 channels with shares 49.4%, 50.4% and 0.2%, when rounded to nearest whole % that's 49% 50% and 0% = 99%”

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Share figures are often incorrectly calculated in my experience of doing the weekly share report. I work them out manually to make sure there are no errors.

For example for the w/c January 17, BARB claims BBC Two had a 7.2% share.

It also states that the average viewer watched 1781 minutes of television, of which 127 minutes were BBC Two.

(1781 / 127) x 100 = 7.130825379000561

So where does BARB get 7.2 from? Only theory I had was that it was automatically including HD for the shows that are simulcast on BBC HD, but I've since seen similar miscalculations for other channels.”

Originally Posted by mlt11:
“No, because EVERY single week the numbers add to well under 100% (usually around 99.0%).

The numbers being added are to one decimal place.

Also note we are only talking about adding 7 separate numbers. Even if every number was at its outer limit - eg 6.5 was really 6.549 it would only add 0.35% overall.

It is definitely not rounding.”

Originally Posted by mlt11:
“That IS due to rounding.

127 minutes could be up to 127.499 minutes.

(127.499/1781) * 100 = 7.1588

which rounds to 7.2%”

I'm afraid I've still not been told anything on this (nor ITV1 HD issue)

I know it's being looked into, but I don't know how quickly this will be resolved/answered

if/when I do hear something definitive I'll let you guys know

Jaycee Dove
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“True, the share of the audience went up so that's a good sign for it. I'm not saying it won't be a modest hit for Sky1, I just don't think it's going to be another 24, Lost, or even Bones.”

Hawaii 5 0 got pretty favourable reviews on the thread here including people liking it who did not expect to.

It has done well in the States and looks certain to be renewed which will help as viewers are getting weary of getting into series that get the chop just around the time we start showing them.

And from next week it is sensibly paired by Sky with NCIS: Los Angeles with new episodes of House moving to Thursday.
Dancc
07-02-2011
I said it was only a matter of time last year, now it has finally happened. ITV3 has overtaken ITV2 to become the UK's most watched digital channel. In January, the former had a total audience share of 2.5%, whilst ITV2 held a total of 2.4%. It's the first time ITV3 has beaten ITV2 with +1 included.

More info: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1434419
mlt11
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“I'm afraid I've still not been told anything on this (nor ITV1 HD issue)

I know it's being looked into, but I don't know how quickly this will be resolved/answered

if/when I do hear something definitive I'll let you guys know

”

Thanks Mike!
D.M.N.
07-02-2011
Some The X Factor USA news for anyone interested:

- winner will receive $5m recording contract with Sony
- age limit is 12
Mike Teevee
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Some The X Factor USA news for anyone interested:

- winner will receive $5m recording contract with Sony
- age limit is 12”

I know Simon is trying to make it as different from AI as (legally) possible, but 12!!!!!!

be interesting to see if people are still interested after this year's AI and that new rival show

not sure what the point of that SB ad was last night, XF:USA isn't launching till Autumn (or should that be Fall )
C14E
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Will FOX want to sacrifice the ad space to promote The X Factor though? They may say 'pay up or no chance' to him.

EDIT: Am I right in guessing that all the other channels have just rolled over tonight and are airing repeats until 10/9c?”

FOX are responsible for marketing and promotion (the budget is apparently $35m). So they might cost it against that.
C14E
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“I know Simon is trying to make it as different from AI as (legally) possible, but 12!!!!!!

be interesting to see if people are still interested after this year's AI and that new rival show

not sure what the point of that SB ad was last night, XF:USA isn't launching till Autumn (or should that be Fall )”

I think the age limit was lower than they might have planned because (purely coincidentally, I'm sure!) Idol lowered its limit from 18 to 15.

The promotion just now is partly for the auditions - to get auditonees and audiences. But also because of the size of The Superbowl, it's an opportunity that FOX didn't want to miss. Comparing purely for population (US 300m, UK 60m) then last nights Superbowl will have averaged around 22m viewers. But that doesn't account for the difference in television viewing.

The Superbowl will rate more than 5 times better than the American Idol final in May (FOX's next highest rated show). So it's a massive opportunity for FOX which is why they're plugging their big new series (X Factor and Terra Nova) several months in advance. So in some ways, The Superbowl would be a bit like ITV getting around 80m viewers! (more than 5 times as many as The X Factor final)

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“The X Factor USA ad is very good and uses the same sort of music that they use in the UK version. FOX should and will promote it with Idol and Glee but I wonder if they are expecting Idol numbers for it due to the success of the show in the UK. ”

I can't see it, tbh. It just seems entirely unlikely that there will ever be a show launching to 20m viewers again. It's hard to say what it needs to get. Definitely more than the ~2.0 that is enough for most reality series. Glee is a major cultural phenomenon over there - overshadowing Idol these days - yet it still gets about 13m (albeit rather more last night, I'm sure!).

Terra Nova is another one which might have higher expectations than usual for a scripted series given the cost and high profile backing. I can't see it getting by on a 2.5 rating with a $14m pilot!

Not to mention that Terra Nova has no fewer than 12, yes TWELVE, Executive Producers! Including the little known British writer, Kelly Marcel, who originally came up with the idea. I thought 6 (including Cowell) for The X Factor was quite enough!
fodg09
07-02-2011
Must say I wasn't overly impressed by the Terra Nova trailer that Fox ran last night, I think they will need to be careful to make sure it doesn't just look like a TV imitation of Avatar. Will be interesting to see how the pilot performs in May.
C14E
07-02-2011
Preliminary ratings suggest that The Superbowl may have broken the US viewing record again and topped the 106m mark it set last year.

Glee could be down around 25% in viewers from Undercover Boss in the post-Superbowl slot last year. Although it's hard to judge on early numbers and Glee's strong A18-49 skew means it could still come out ahead in the key demo.
Andy23
07-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Sunday 6th February Roundup
BBC One
21:00- Wallander: 2.34m (9.4%)”


That must be one of BBC1's lowest ratings in that slot.
LemonadeMan
07-02-2011
The age limit is 12?!!

So how long before the first kids cries on-stage? Cos that's so going to happen. Then Cheryl can give them a lil hug.
DejaVoodoo
07-02-2011
Maybe they can introduce a trapdoor for bad acts. Actually all acts would be better.
Charnham
07-02-2011
the superbowl ads are not all bad, a few movie ones, good one for Captain Amercia as well.
mancitybean
07-02-2011
Was Wallander a repeat?
C14E
07-02-2011
Quote:
“Airing from 10:39-11:45p last night, a special episode of Glee posted an 11.1 rating among Adults 18-49 with 26.8 million Total Viewers, earning its highest ratings ever and outperforming the most recent scripted program to air post-Super Bowl, NBC’s The Office on 2/1/09 among Adults 18-49 (+1%, 11.1 vs. 11.0) and Total Viewers (+17%, 26.8 vs. 22.9 Mil).

Last night’s Glee is the highest rated scripted series telecast on any network in three years in Adults 18-49 and Total Viewers (since HOUSE post-Super Bowl on 2/3/08). In addition, Glee is the highest rated series telecast on any network in one year among Adults 18-49 and Total Viewers (since Undercover Boss on 2/7/10, post-Super Bowl).”

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-so-much/81649
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