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Old 12-01-2011, 14:18
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note, ITV1 +1 figures are not yet available on the BARB spreadsheet; hence will not be reported yet
Perhaps Taggart's missing 2m viewers were watching later on ITV1+1?

If 2.7m is a benchmark for what ITV1 can expect for its 9pm offerings in the ITV1+1 era, then I'm all for it...
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Old 12-01-2011, 14:25
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Cos I think her character died?!?
yes that could be problematic.
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Old 12-01-2011, 14:27
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Emmerdale's tape-checked rating, including HD was 8.02m (35.2%).
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Old 12-01-2011, 14:29
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Isnt the Biggest Loser primetime in the USA?
Yes, it was originally developed for NBC in primetime and still airs on Tuesday nights. It was ITV who turned it into daytime show when it started here.
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Old 12-01-2011, 14:35
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Another great night for BBC1, Holby City is on fire, wow those are great ratings, and TOS approaching 6m
Is it higher now Manford has gone? Or the same as when the other two were on it? Has a new co-host been officially announced? Matt Bakers not been on this week, though the guy on it is good. Thanks
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Old 12-01-2011, 14:48
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I think ive missed something, why would it be hard for her to be in the program?
Rachel (her character) died after a car crash

great scenes with the other characters dealing with their grief

so if they go down the "ghost" route, it'll make the show looked stupid

alternatively they could do a flashback scene/episode, but then would they get away with looking older from their "younger days"

here's hoping it stays in the past and isn't revived
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Old 12-01-2011, 14:54
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Writing in today's Daily Express their TV critic Matt Bayliss (a former EE scriptwriter) says
''It's not surprising that a show gets better with age but Taggart - unlike most fine wines - never seems to go past its drink-by date.It just keeps on improving infinitely
''The only person seemingly untouched by the winds of time was DS Jackie Reid (Blythe Duff) who has seemed to be ancient ever since she stepped out of the police academy.''
THANK YOU!
The point is that if ITV had bothered to give it a decent slot, we all know it would have performed better with a possible 4m (maybe even 5 at the most).
I gotta say though i think Jackie looks quite hot this series! Wait till you see the boxing episode and you'll know what i mean!
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Old 12-01-2011, 15:53
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ITV1+1 .

Taggart was the new channel's top-rating show yesterday, with 202,000 viewers and a 1% audience share from 10pm.

Other ITV1+1 shows last night included Secret Mediterranean with Trevor McDonald (9pm: 126,000), News at Ten (11pm: 95,000) and Emmerdale (8pm: 82,000).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-fight-ratings
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Old 12-01-2011, 15:57
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ITV1+1 CRASHES THE PARTY
ITV1+1: from 8pm – ITV1 last night became the second of the five main networks to launch a +1 digital service, offering viewers the chance to catch up with its programming an hour after transmission. Channel 4+1 came to the party first, back in August 2007.

Taggart was the new channel's top-rating show yesterday, with 202,000 viewers and a 1% audience share from 10pm.

Other ITV1+1 shows last night included Secret Mediterranean with Trevor McDonald (9pm: 126,000), News at Ten (11pm: 95,000) and Emmerdale (8pm: 82,000).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...-fight-ratings
from that article

When writing about ratings, +1 channels are something of a conundrum. Do you lump the figures in with the parent channel's ratings, or not?

Up to now we have tended to keep Channel 4+1 figures separate from Channel 4 ratings, because it's not a like for like comparison with the other four main networks.
I wonder if MG will start include the +1 figures?

personally I don't they should. There's nothing to say that the viewing to +1 channels are pure viewers, I know I sometimes rewatch stuff on timeshifted channels (especially if I missed something/wasn't paying attention first time around)
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Old 12-01-2011, 16:05
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What are the ratings so far for the second series of antique road trip on BBC 2 . Are the ratings up or down from the first series?
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Old 12-01-2011, 16:13
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+1 Channels really do open a can of worms when it comes to reporting figures. On the one hand you have the fact that if you lump the figures together then you are falsely stating the amount of people who were watching the programme at that time. But on the other hand, the presence of a +1 channel can cause some viewers who would watch the original showing to choose to watch the +1 channel.

There doesn't seem to be a universally adopted standard. As far as getting the most information available if you have the figures including +1 and the share and amount watching TV then you can work out how many were watching the main showing as +1 isn't in the share. Obviously the best solution is to give both figures separately and let everyone spin their own web out of the results.
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Old 12-01-2011, 16:26
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That Taggart figure is truly, truly awful. I've never watched the show, so I'm not sure how good it is, but I expect the axe to be announced soon if it's bringing those sort of figures, even if it was scheduled in the Tuesday 9pm death slot.

Doesn't this also bring into perspective how dreadfully dire ITV's Tuesday schedules are too?! I think a soap re-shuffle is pretty urgent; I'd personally move the double dose of Emmerdale (7pm & 8pm) to Tuesdays, and then Corrie can move to Thursday 8pm, following swiftly after EastEnders, therefore solving Corrie's mediocre Thursday 8.30performances.
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Old 12-01-2011, 16:32
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Fantastic night for BBC One with a really strong schedule. TOS posted a very impressive share, while EE and particularly Holby are still right on top of their game ratings-wise. A bit down for Silent Witness, but perhaps thats the cumulative effect of two dramas in opposition and the strongly rated football.

The football itself is the other standout of the night, actually - though Channel 4 and 5 also had good ones, with line-ups featuring some of their more reliable shows.

Terrible for Taggart, but I don't think ITV really care. They want it off their books as soon as possible and the low ratings won't do them any harm in the dispute with STV.

The one other thing I noticed in the big round up for last night was how low Friends was on E4 - around the 250,000 mark. Perhaps its departure from the Channel is coming at the right time?
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Old 12-01-2011, 16:33
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Tuesday is the most boring day on TV by miles. I never have anything to say on Wednesdays.
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Old 12-01-2011, 16:35
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Fantastic night for BBC One with a really strong schedule. TOS posted a very impressive share, while EE and particularly Holby are still right on top of their game ratings-wise. A bit down for Silent Witness, but perhaps thats the cumulative effect of two dramas in opposition and the strongly rated football.

The football itself is the other standout of the night, actually - though Channel 4 and 5 also had good ones, with line-ups featuring some of their more reliable shows.

Terrible for Taggart, but I don't think ITV really care. They want it off their books as soon as possible and the low ratings won't do them any harm in the dispute with STV.

The one other thing I noticed in the big round up for last night was how low Friends was on E4 - around the 250,000 mark. Perhaps its departure from the Channel is coming at the right time?
well it has been a bit samey for the last 6 and half years
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Old 12-01-2011, 16:45
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Rachel (her character) died after a car crash

great scenes with the other characters dealing with their grief

so if they go down the "ghost" route, it'll make the show looked stupid

alternatively they could do a flashback scene/episode, but then would they get away with looking older from their "younger days"

here's hoping it stays in the past and isn't revived
what if the show was her afterlife, only its exactly like her pre death life.
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Old 12-01-2011, 16:58
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what if the show was her afterlife, only its exactly like her pre death life.
like Lost?
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Old 12-01-2011, 17:01
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mattpinder was talking about the BBC1 HD simulcast of EastEnders. One of the BBC1 HD ratings for Christmas Day was was reported on the Doctor Who News website: http://gallifreynewsbase.blogspot.co...t-ratings.html

The BBC1 HD simulcast of Doctor Who had 1.3m, as noted in the above link. The EastEnders BBC1 HD simulcast had a similarly high number - 1.09m.
I can't find the EE ratings on that link. How come this site gets overnights for BBC One HD, when no one else seems to?
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Old 12-01-2011, 17:10
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BBC Three having a good night with Snog Marry Avoid getting a high and Sun, Sex and Suspicious getting a good rating.

Great for EE
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Old 12-01-2011, 17:21
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+1 Channels really do open a can of worms when it comes to reporting figures. On the one hand you have the fact that if you lump the figures together then you are falsely stating the amount of people who were watching the programme at that time. But on the other hand, the presence of a +1 channel can cause some viewers who would watch the original showing to choose to watch the +1 channel.

There doesn't seem to be a universally adopted standard. As far as getting the most information available if you have the figures including +1 and the share and amount watching TV then you can work out how many were watching the main showing as +1 isn't in the share. Obviously the best solution is to give both figures separately and let everyone spin their own web out of the results.
I think the test is very simple.

If ITV1+1 was called "ITV5", would anyone think of lumping together the ITV1 showing of Taggart and the ITV5 showing an hour later?

No.

The fact it's called ITV1+1 makes no difference. It's a repeat showing on a different channel.

So ITV1's first showing of Taggart attracted 2.6m viewers plus whatever the ITV1HD simulcast got (because simulcasting in a different broadcast format is not repeat viewing. You can only watch one channel at any given time).

And then ITV1+1's repeat showing of Taggart attracted 200k viewers.

It does not follow that ITV1 got 2.8m (+HD) for Taggart. Doing that may count some people twice, and casuals who caught the repeat and didn't consciously choose to timeshift.

Phew...
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Old 12-01-2011, 17:22
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So Married, Single, Other flopped last year, sort of. So what do ITV do? That's right... think of bringing Cold Feet back. I'm not kidding, either: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...-approach.html
Will they need additional security to protect the filming from terrorists I wonder?
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Old 12-01-2011, 17:32
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So Married, Single, Other flopped last year, sort of. So what do ITV do? That's right... think of bringing Cold Feet back. I'm not kidding, either: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...-approach.html
Does one underperforming show in a genre mean that genre should be completely ignored? Cold Feet was a hit back in the day and would no doubt do well if it came back.

I think the test is very simple.

If ITV1+1 was called "ITV5", would anyone think of lumping together the ITV1 showing of Taggart and the ITV5 showing an hour later?

No.

The fact it's called ITV1+1 makes no difference. It's a repeat showing on a different channel.

So ITV1's first showing of Taggart attracted 2.6m viewers plus whatever the ITV1HD simulcast got (because simulcasting in a different broadcast format is not repeat viewing. You can only watch one channel at any given time).

And then ITV1+1's repeat showing of Taggart attracted 200k viewers.

It does not follow that ITV1 got 2.8m (+HD) for Taggart. Doing that may count some people twice, and casuals who caught the repeat and didn't consciously choose to timeshift.

Phew...
Well put. I think even the ITV fans will struggle to disagree with that.
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Old 12-01-2011, 17:54
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Well put. I think even the ITV fans will struggle to disagree with that.
They will...
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Old 12-01-2011, 17:55
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I have not see Lost since it left C4, but if that is how Lost ended, then yes like Lost.

Viewers bought into Life on Mars, so why not "Cold Feet: Afterlife"
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Old 12-01-2011, 17:56
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That's two days in a row where the ITV1 9pm programme rated lower than their Eastenders opposition.
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