according to wikipeida

http://natgeotv.com/uk/cruise-ship-diaries

moving away from STV, my heart continues to break for Primeval.

Looks like both BBC1 and ITV1 are going to heavily trail their new dramas, Outcasts & Marchlands.

ITV1 started promoting Marchlands from last Thursday, at least 3 weeks away from it airing (at the earliest). Outcasts promos on BBC1 started yesterday, and that won't be starting until at least another 2-3 weeks.

I still think that if Casualty takes a break and they reduce the episode count, the show could be nurtured and become big again.

Should be a really good all-day share for Sky Sports 1 today, had Live Cricket (England vs Australia) until 11:30 and then Live Triple Ford Super Sunday from then until 19:00.

Three hours of this dismal pub game on BBC Two tonight, I reckon BBC Two will come bottom among the big four tonight. However, the ratings for the two main channels last night were pathetic. I could understand 3-4 million viewers if it was a heatwave, but not on a night where gale force winds and rain were in charge.

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Excuse me quoting my own post butI've just realised that the reason BBC1 may be planning heavy promotion of Casualty this week is because the Comedy Awards are on Channel 4 next Saturday at 9pm.

An adequate night for BBC One, though there's no particularly impressive numbers there. The Magicians has held up much better than I was expecting - maybe it will return, though I would hope they'd listen to the criticism and reconsider the format, presenter and production if it did. IMO, its on nights like this where the likes of In It To Win It and Casualty prove their worth.

Saturdays really are dismal for ITV at the moment. Take Me Out is passable on account of its 16-34 skew I suppose, but everything else there is a bit of a disaster. I totally agree about the criticisms of both main channels for repeats in the 9pm hour. Extremely poor for January.

Shows how dependent ITV1 are on Cowell. When his shows aren't on, the channel performs dismally on a Saturday. Also the reliance on Harry Hill at other times is becoming a liability now: TV Burp seems to be on its way out and You've Been Framed is just schedule filler that few people would make a point of watching.

Saturday nights have been shite since they axed Noel's House Party.

(Actually, there is probably some truth in that...)

True to some extent, although NHP was bobbins in its last two or three years. Certainly - in my memory - Saturday night telly was excellent in the early 90s, with Challenge Anneka, NHP, Brucie's Gen Game and Casualty providing a gritty drama for 24 weeks of the year. I personally think the rot started to set in when Jim Davidson took over the Gen Game....

There's not really a lot to say when In It To Win It is the top rating of the night. ITV could solve all their woes in one move by putting DOI on Saturdays/Sundays but it seems that they don't really mind. I guess it all adds up anyway. Take Me Out must be getting good demo's if it's over 4m with 30% 16-34 but it's still a pretty slow night for ITV.

It's interesting in one way though - this is what Saturday nights were expected to be like at the turn of the century. Saturday night TV was dead, apparently. Then there was Popstars/Pop Idol and all that followed.

I don't think Thunderbirds will be the answer (apparently they're looking at a remake).


It's a difficult situation for ITV. I think DA has to stay in that Sunday slot but if they finally put the X Factor auditions onto Sundays then they can use it as a launchpad for another new series - something that might move to Mondays and air for another 7 weeks or so.

There will definitely be a temptation for ITV to put something new in but I'd give it at least another year. Plus, lets remember how long it took ITV to come up with a good non-crime returning series (of more than 3 episodes). It's pretty optimistic that they'd be able to do it again this year.

I'm inclined to agree, but I wouldn't make Christmas Day one of the Sundays, because that would end in tears.

I still think ITV at the weekends should have done:

Saturdays
18:30 - Dancing on Ice
20:00 - Primeval
21:00 - Take Me Out
22:15 - ITV News

Sundays
18:30 - Harry Hill's TV Burp
19:00 - Dancing on Ice: Skate Off
19:30 - Wild at Heart
20:30 - new drama
22:00 - That Sunday Night Show
22:30 - ITV News

(obviously in this scenario, Dancing on Ice's Skate Off would be taped on Saturday's, similar to the currently Strictly setup)

The golden eras for me were the mid nineties when we had Baywatch, The Gladiators, Noel's House Party, Stars in Their Eyes and live boxing. Also not forgetting the legendary BBC One schedules of the late seventies when BBC One wiped the floor with ITV.

The Magicians yet again scored another solid rating despite widespread criticism on here. Im starting to wonder whether DS is such a good barometer for judging shows. I caught a little bit last night and didnt think it was that good but perfectly watchable.

Lenny Henry was fine, is he the black James Corden where he is hated on these forums but the general public dont really mind?

It's not just on DS where it's been slated but everywhere really. The AIs have been poor too (72/73).

I think though it's benefitting from weak competition and it's the only shiny floor TV show on Saturdays at the moment so people who like those sorts of programmes are gravitating towards it. I doubt they're going to suddenly start watching Primeval for the first time in its 4th series. The Magicians is doing well but I suspect against any decent competition, it'd fall below 5m. If ratings hold up for the remaining episodes, it should still return though, and as sn_22 said they could listen to feedback and make changes to the format that could make it into a better show for its 2nd series.

I really dont give AIs the time of the day, its a very unfair and biased system.

It may have been slated everywhere but the people who have been moaning obviously are still watching as ratings have gone 5.6m, 5.5m, 5.4m and the first show had the Indiana Jones/Eastenders sandwich. A pretty excellent retention.

I agree it would probably be dented if ITV put something stronger on but that is the case for most shows in general. It can only compete against what is on the other side at the same time. I think the BBC will pretty satisfied so far with it.

What happened to that BBC dance show with Cat Deeley? So you think you can dance? You know the one that failed? Please don't tell me there is a series 2.....what figures did it get?

The 2nd series of So You Think You Can Dance is scheduled to begin in 2011, the show hosted auditions in Manchester on 17 October 2010, Glasgow on 19 October 2010 and London on 21 and 22 of October, according to the BBC website, contestants could also audition in Cardiff and Belfast.

pretty sure ive seen promos asking for people to auditon for Series 2.

Ratings for series 1?

BTW Tomorrow Total Wipeout series 5 begins filming

Dale Winton was better on hole in the wall, is there a series 3 for that?

I remember the glory days when Baywatch would get trounced in the ratings on Saturdays by Dad's Army repeats.


Well, they could in theory, but this is the BBC Light Entertainment department we're talking about.

you do know the joy of the internet is that you can search for things yourself, rather than ask people.

I will give you a head start

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/So_You_...Dance_%28UK%29

remember supermarket sweep and family fortunes with Les Dennis?