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The Ratings Thread (Part 16)
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18-01-2011
Originally Posted by T Penery:
“Probably when Golden Balls was fresh, so we're lookin at summer 2007.”

Even when Golden Balls was fresh I don't think it ever won the hour. This must be the first show ITV have had winning that slot for them since Paul O'Grady. I notice they're treating it much better than they treated Golden Balls as this series is an 8 week run, and I think they're going to have 2 x 8 week runs per year (although the number of weeks per run may be extended a bit) based on what they've done over the last year, whereas Golden Balls ran pretty much all round in 2008 and for a lot of 2009 with repeats often mixed in with new episodes and got tired very quickly. It looks like ITV have learnt from their mistake.

As for last night, brilliant for Silent Witness as ever. Interesting that The Biggest Loser went up a little. I had a feeling it would and I think people are still writing it off too quickly, and last night's rating really isn't that bad against Silent Witness, One Born Every Minute and Glee. I think Taggart might increase a little tonight too as they've advertised it a lot this week.
Brekkie
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“According to the current preliminary schedules, EastEnders will have an episode on Wednesday 2nd February to make up for the one not airing on Friday 4th February due to rugby.

But that would mean a likely clash against Emmerdale which is an hour-long episode that night. So I expect it to change once the schedules are confirmed this Wednesday.”

Hopefully such episodes will be the first to go when cost-cutting really bites at the BBC. They've known since soon after last years event it would begin with a Friday night game, so why on earth commission for a slot that won't exist. The same applies to Casualty.

Originally Posted by ftv:
“ITV seems to have given up promoting Daybreak as they presumably realise it's a lost cause. DOI guests seem to go to This Morning now.Even Garraway and Stapleton presenting last week didn't improve the figures, Friday was down to 724,000.”

DoI guests have always gone on This Morning for very obvious reasons.


Originally Posted by ftv:
“5 are axeing Live from Studio 5 and replacing it with OK TV from next month as Desmond terminates his contract with Sky News.
Source: Media Guardian”

Replacing one flop with another. I'm looking forward to Dirty Desmond losing all his cash!

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“ITV to cut Evening News by half? http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...y-evening-news”

Read it again - it's been suggested to them by a "consultant" they're wasting money on rather than talking to viewers, and pretty much rejected by all at ITV and obviously ITN. As for a gameshow in the slot - this isn't the 1990's! Indeed apart from The Krpyton Factor revival and the intelligent stuff on BBC4, it's been quite some time since a new 30-minute game show debuted on TV, especially in primetime.

Originally Posted by Cent:
“No sponsorship, no product placement, no real advertising revenue of note. News is a big loss-maker. To the point that a repeat of an old sitcom drawing just 1m viewers would make ITV more money.”

That would be true if they had the ads to sell - but they don't. They run the news without the ads because they can afford not too. Chances are anything else in the slot would be treated similarly, though with a fake break containing just promos.

Originally Posted by Salv*:
“That is quite an impressive leap for Tool Acadamy... didn't it get like 350,000 last week on its debut?”

Yep, but it did air till 11.40pm.

Originally Posted by C14E:
“Outstanding ratings for Piers Morgan Tonight.

2.1m viewers tuned in, a 219% rise on CNN's 4th quarter performance in total viewers and 206% up on adults 25-54 where he had 521,000. He comfortably beat Rachel Maddow (MSNBC) who had 1.11m with 342,000 in the target demo. He narrowly trailed FOX News' Hannity who had 2,365,000 and 600,000 in the demo.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...premiere/79106”

2.1m - so where's the other 297.9m then Piers?


Originally Posted by rzt:
“Yesterday's tea-time overnight ratings:

BBC1- The Weakest Link: 2.13m (12.7%)
BBC2- Antiques Roadtrip: 2.21m (13.2%)
ITV1- The Chase: 2.48m (15.5%) exc. HD
CH4- Come Dine with Me: 1.99m (13.7%)... Jamie's 30 Minute Meals: 1.38m (7.9%)
CH5- Five News at 5: 810k (5.6%) ... Neighbours: 1.22m (7.0%)”

The Weakest Link really has bucked the trend in shows being promoted to BBC1 - seems to be beaten by BBC2 more often than not.
Dancc
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Boulton & Co averaged 39k (0.5%) between 1-2pm yesterday.

Last Monday (10th Jan), The Live Desk averaged 41k (0.5%) between 1-2pm.”

Thanks. No real difference then figures wise.

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Hollyoaks really beats H&A and Neighbours in the 16-34 bracket (640k vs. 188k/ 238k). It has always amazed me that Neighbours average viewer is likely to be a woman in her 50s or 60's. It really doesnt fit the shows image!”

Are we looking at the same demos? 37% of Neighbours' audience is under 44, same as Corrie. So how you can conclude that the average viewer is "likely" to be a 50 or 60 year old woman I'm not sure.

A lot of people grew up watching Neighbours in the early years and still watch it out of habit today. Not surprised by the demos at all, but good to see it has its fair share of younger viewers as well.
GeorgeS
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“ 37% of Neighbours' audience is under 44, same as Corrie.”

Meaning 63% are over 44. Its always surprised me that the audience is made up of some many older people. When it started it used to be students that watched it mainly.
Dancc
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Meaning 63% are over 44. Its always surprised me that the audience is made up of some many older people. When it started it used to be students that watched it mainly.”

And those students grew up, and continued to watch Neighbours.

Maybe the show is not as successful as it once was in bringing in the younger viewers, but what show is on tv nowadays? Even the mighty Hollyoaks has fallen.

The facebook generation don't care much for daily soaps. Too much of a commitment for most.
D.M.N.
18-01-2011
Ratings request for the morning, providing rzt has ratings for this hour...

00:10 to 02:10 (will have to be 02:00 as that's when it'll cut off on the overnights) - Tennis: Australian Open [BBC2]

Also, ITV could well find itself embarrassingly in 3rd or 4th place, I suspect Channel 4 could be 2nd by a clear margin tomorrow, with BBC1 winning the slot. EDIT: The top 3 trends in the UK on Twitter are:

- #bigfatgypsywedding
- #bfgw
- #gypsywedding
Salv*
18-01-2011
I reckon Gypsy Wedding will get 3.4m tonight.
Dancc
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Also, ITV could well find itself embarrassingly in 3rd or 4th place, I suspect Channel 4 could be 2nd by a clear margin tomorrow, with BBC1 winning the slot. EDIT: The top 3 trends in the UK on Twitter are:

- #bigfatgypsywedding
- #bfgw
- #gypsywedding”

The DS thread has notched up over 230 posts in less than an hour.

Looks like a hit. DSRPG average is 3m, but I reckon we are looking at nearer 4m.
rzt
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Ratings request for the morning, providing rzt has ratings for this hour...

00:10 to 02:10 (will have to be 02:00 as that's when it'll cut off on the overnights) - Tennis: Australian Open [BBC2]”

This morning between 00:10-02:00, BBC2 averaged 145k (4.0%).

During the same time:
BBC1 had 295k
BBC3- 282k
C5- 261k
C4- 232k
ITV1- 160k

Edit: Seen message below.
D.M.N.
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“00:10-02:00: Tennis: Australian Open: 145k (4.0%)

During the same time:
BBC1 had 295k
BBC3- 282k
C5- 261k
C4- 232k
ITV1- 160k”

I really should have made that clearer... I meant for 00:10 to 02:00 tonight (I won't be online tomorrow till like 5pm, hence why I posted it now).

(although ITV really does badly in those early hours, doesn't it?)

Edit: Also Andy Murray vs Karol Beck from 04:10 to 07:00 this morning on BBC2 --> http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00y8x9f
Joe40
18-01-2011
ESPN's 4th round FA Cup picks...
Everton v Chelsea - Sat 29th Jan 12.30pm
Arsenal or Leeds v Huddersfield - Sun 30th Jan noon
Fulham vs Tottenham Hotspur - Sun 30th Jan 4.30pm

ITV1
Southampton v Manchester United - Sat 29th Jan 5.15pm
Sun 30th Jan TBA (which I would imagine now to be Notts County v Manchester City).
Dancc
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by Joe40:
“ESPN's 4th round FA Cup picks...
Everton v Chelsea - Sat 29th Jan 12.30pm
Arsenal or Leeds v Huddersfield - Sun 30th Jan noon
Fulham vs Tottenham Hotspur - Sun 30th Jan 4.30pm

ITV1
Southampton v Manchester United - Sat 29th Jan 5.15pm
Sun 30th Jan TBA (which I would imagine now to be Notts County v Manchester City).”

ESPN have the better games. So far ESPN's FA Cup coverage has peaked at 424,000 viewers for the 1st leg of Leicester City v Manchester City on Sunday 9th January. A very good figure for the channel, similar to how its Premier League games rate.
D.M.N.
18-01-2011
Pretty sure Big Fat Gypsy Wedding could exceed 5m tonight looking at the reaction in various places. May I remind you of the rating last February:

21:00 - My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding: 4.52m (17.4%)
* +1: 734,000 (3.6%)

I'm not sure if the opposition is tougher tonight... last February it had MasterChef and The Bill (combined about 7.5m) and tonight it had Silent Witness and Taggart (combined about 10m), but I can see Gypsy Wedding denting both of them. Eight out of the nine UK 'trends' on Twitter are related to Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, normally meaning a big 16 to 34 reaction... and I've only seen 9 out of 10 trends for shows like X Factor.
Dancc
18-01-2011
It will probably do well on +1 again due to part 2 of Silent Witness. I doubt it will break 5m but we'll see, anything is possible with this show I feel!

My prediction:
9pm 3.6m (SW: 6.2m, TG: 2.6m)
10pm 0.8m (TG: 0.3m)
C14E
18-01-2011
SYFY - Being Human (9pm) - 1.96m
* 0.8 rating among adults 18-49 (1m)
* Highest Syfy winter scripted series launch since 2005
* 58% of A18-49 were female, highest skew for any original scripted broacast on Syfy
* Repeated at 10pm & 11pm with unduplicated audience of 3.8m (1.9m A18-49)

MTV - Skins (10pm) - 3.26m
* 2.7m of them were aged 12-34 (MTV's target demo)
* Largest number of 12-34 viewers ever for any MTV series launch

More comment on Deadline

And Syfy press release

And MTV press release

Jersey Shore slipped a touch in its timeslot move. It had 7.7m at 9pm.
Chris1964
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by Joe40:
“ESPN's 4th round FA Cup picks...
Everton v Chelsea - Sat 29th Jan 12.30pm
Arsenal or Leeds v Huddersfield - Sun 30th Jan noon
Fulham vs Tottenham Hotspur - Sun 30th Jan 4.30pm

ITV1
Southampton v Manchester United - Sat 29th Jan 5.15pm
Sun 30th Jan TBA (which I would imagine now to be Notts County v Manchester City).”

I wonder what games would drag ITV away from Man Utd. Should draw a good curiosity interest as well as Utd faithful.
andrew89
18-01-2011
Neighbours ratings are in.
Via : Media Spy

Tuesday 18th January;
319,000

*Most watched Digital Show of the day

*28th most watched show on all channels
Dancc
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by andrew89:
“Neighbours ratings are in.
Via : Media Spy

Tuesday 18th January;
319,000

*Most watched Digital Show of the day

*28th most watched show on all channels”

Another slight increase. It's doing really well. New episodes of Hollyoaks aren't doing much better than that over here on E4.
sn_22
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Yesterday's demographics: http://i51.tinypic.com/2qdvsbk.jpg

Few things I noticed:

- Glee was the most watched show among 16-34s in the 9pm slot.
- One Born Every Minute beat BBC1 and ITV1 among 16-34s at 9pm.
- The One Show is one of the oldest skewing shows in primetime TV.
- Emmerdale's audience is pretty downmarket.
- EastEnders beat Corrie in all demographics until 44 years, Corrie beat EastEnders in all demos from 45+.
- Biggest Loser had a "broad" audience. (Doesn't particularly skew too young nor old).”

I'm finding these demo breakdowns absolutely fascinating. It's pretty clear how C4 pitches its appeal to advertisers, isn't it?! Glee is obviously amazing in the way that it skews so young (and upmarket, too) but One Born Every Minute is the one that really surprised me. I thought this one would have a much older breakdown.

Anyway, it does paint a more rosy picture for C4 - and they could be in for some huge numbers (both total and in the demos) for Big Fat Gypsy Wedding. That one looks to have taken off!

Should also mention EastEnders excellent numbers in the young demo. I always find it ironic that its the commercial broadcasters soaps that are the less advertiser friendly!

Originally Posted by C14E:
“SYFY - Being Human (9pm) - 1.96m
* 0.8 rating among adults 18-49 (1m)
* Highest Syfy winter scripted series launch since 2005
* 58% of A18-49 were female, highest skew for any original scripted broacast on Syfy
* Repeated at 10pm & 11pm with unduplicated audience of 3.8m (1.9m A18-49)

MTV - Skins (10pm) - 3.26m
* 2.7m of them were aged 12-34 (MTV's target demo)
* Largest number of 12-34 viewers ever for any MTV series launch”

Reasonably impressive for both, I think - but we'll need to see how Skins hold up without Jersey Shore in front of it next week. Importantly, it has at least honed in on the right demographic (does anyone else find it funny that MTV gave it an 18+ TV-MA rating, protested claims that they were targeting it at teens, then brag about its numbers with that demo in the press releases ). Being Human much more subdued, and its difficult to cut through all the demo spinning PR guff sometimes - but on the face of it, the news seems pretty positive.

And like him or lump him, you can't deny Piers Morgan has made a splash over the pond - I had a feeling he might. He'll obviously fall some way back from the first week hoopla, but I think its an injection of energy that CNN badly needs. Fox and MSNBC might just have underestimated him - the inevitable coming clash of egos should be something to watch (thankfully, from a distance )

As far as the main networks are concerned, not so great for NBC yet again - try as they might, they just can't bust out of the low 2's with any sort of new drama. You almost pity them - then you realise its the same reactionary twerps that presided over the Tonight Show fiasco, and it doesn't seem so surprising...
Glenn A
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“And those students grew up, and continued to watch Neighbours.

Maybe the show is not as successful as it once was in bringing in the younger viewers, but what show is on tv nowadays? Even the mighty Hollyoaks has fallen.

The facebook generation don't care much for daily soaps. Too much of a commitment for most.”

Or maybe the students got jobs and ditched it in the same way the Student Union disco is a distant memory now. I would suppose that watch Neighbours are the hardcore fans from its glory days and also as the soap has a fair number of older characters, it's no surprise it trends well among over 45s. Maybe a case of the 2 million fans getting older with the soap.
However, I would agree no show is as popular as it was in its glory days, Neighbours seeing its audience fall by about 85 pc since its peak in 1990 and Home and Away seeing a drop of 90pc. It's maybe a lot of people grew out of these soaps, other attractions like the internet came along, Australian soaps went the way of American ones and went out of fashion, or people wised up to what a load of crap they were.
RobbieSykes123
18-01-2011
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“remember when.........

5.45 News At 5.45
6.00 Local News
6.25 Blockbusters

maybe there was less news in the 1980's or maybe there is too much today?”

Blockbusters was 5.15pm in my neck of the woods.

Top show...

when Connections took over its slot when they alternated.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Pretty sure Big Fat Gypsy Wedding could exceed 5m tonight looking at the reaction in various places. May I remind you of the rating last February:

21:00 - My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding: 4.52m (17.4%)
* +1: 734,000 (3.6%)”

Been on another forum just now, where TV shows rarely feature in the discussion, and the thread on Gyppo Weddings (as they put it..) had 60 posts.

I think it may have done well too...
Fudd
18-01-2011
Strong night for the soaps last night as usual. ITV will be pleased that The Biggest Loser didn't lose out but could be seemingly embarrassed by Taggart's rating tonight. Saying that I'm not sure if the audience crossover would be there between Silent Witness, Taggart and Big Fat Gypsy Weddings so the former two may hold up - which isn't saying much in regards to Taggart!
Agent F
19-01-2011
I reckon Gypsy Wedding did quite well tonight. A lot of people talking about it.
Georged123
19-01-2011
Just to add to the point that there were no DOI rejects on Daybreak, on The Chris Moyles Show they discussed the fact that contestants would go on either Daybreak, This Morning or Loose Women so it will vary each week which they go on.
Charnham
19-01-2011
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Just to add to the point that there were no DOI rejects on Daybreak, on The Chris Moyles Show they discussed the fact that contestants would go on either Daybreak, This Morning or Loose Women so it will vary each week which they go on.”

have Dancing On Ice viewers not suffered enough? they have it worse than EastEnders fans.




Another good night for Neigbhours, really wasnt expecting the show to do those kinds of numbers

Night
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