All good points. I had forgotten how much CSI had fallen last season. Hopefully it surprises us with a healthy premiere tonight.


I know you are really against the idea of this rapid repeat of Indiana Jones. But C4 do it all the time with their premieres and it seems to work quite well, such as Iron Man the past couple of weeks. (3.5m including +1 on Sunday 2nd, 2m including +1 on Saturday 8th)

Assuming Indiana Jones 4 was to rate similar relative to its first showing, that would suggest an audience of just over 4m viewers, which wouldn't be too shabby at all.

Deserved?

Apart from your hatred of ITV, why do ITV1 deserve to have a flop on their hands by broadcasting an international hit show which has strong elements of PSB?

I do not know why you offer an opinon on ITV programming as you would damn them regardless of what they do - simply down to the fact you hate them. For this reason, I, and I'm sure others on these forums find your opinions about ITV very hard to take as face value due to the fact you have admitted you are bias in favour of the BBC in the past???

It will be interesting to see what the figures are for the repeat of BL tonight - it's on ITV2 at 7pm

Last night lots of people would have had to make a hard choice, really competitive scheduling for this show to be against Glee, One Born and of course SW. I reckon lots of people will watch tonight and it will ultimately be a success.

Thought it was great.

Channel 4 Sales is reporting 1.97m for Glee.

So 360k watched on E4+1 at 10pm.

Oh my bad I assumed the above contained +1.

Some stonkers there.

We should never forget how well the BBC Regional News does. Really great numbers day in, day out.

EastEnders did great numbers last night, a 40% share and 10.4m is excellent. Likewise, Emmerdale nearly at 9m with a 37% share is great.

Corrie did brilliantly, 44% share is stunning, and I'd quite like to know the tapechecked rating for the second episode because the drop is illogical given the huge cliffhangers at the end of episode 1.

The Biggest Loser performed averagely. Certainly woeful against the brilliant 7.2m rating for Silent Witness (which is a great rating as usual).

Never fail to laugh at Studio Five's rating, hehe it's Channel Five's Daybreak

Finally, nice for Glee and great for Shameless - one of Channel 4's only remaining hits.

All round good stuff, and I'd love if someone can provide Corrie's tapechecked rating, and EE's BBC Three repeat at 10pm.

BBC Scotland did not air Silent Witness - instead airing last night's football game. It would be likely that the football will have rated higher than S.W. would have which may factor into an audience of nearer 7m.

Re BBC regional news this now out-rates ITV in virtually every region as ITV continues in its attempts to persuade OFCOM that no-one watches local news and it should be phased out on ITV by 2013.

Wonder if ITV1 +1 will have a significant or insignificant effect on the way people watch the ITV soaps and said soaps overall ratings. Soaps are habitual viewing for most so I can't see many people making the effort to catch them on +1 if they missed them on the main channel, but, including +1, there might be a boost to Emmerdale on nights when there isn't much on 8, and there might be a boost to Corrie when there isn't much on 9, will be interesting to see.

DS somehow have 3.51m (13.3%), not sure how though.

Davina McCall confirmed on This Morning that Million Pound Drop returns on Friday 28th January. Overkill incoming...

BBC One
20:00 - EastEnders: 10.37m (39.1%) = 26.52m watching tv
21:00 - Silent Witness: 7.24m (27.4%) = 26.42m watching tv
22:00 - BBC News at Ten: 5.1m (22.9%) = 22.27m watching tv

ITV1
19:00 - Emmerdale: 8.6m (37.1%) = 23.18m watching tv
19:30 - Coronation Street: 11.0m (43.9%) = 25.06m watching tv
20:30 - Coronation Street: 9.9m (37.2%) = 26.61m watching tv

All include HD.


That is a lot of people watching tv on a monday evening, a school night - makes me wonder what we would be doing if there was no tv to watch.

Isn't it DS procedure to exclude HD in cases where it is below 100,000?


Why a Friday? Of all the days to bring it back that is the 2nd worst choice after Saturday.

I think it's pretty stupid having it back so soon regardless of the day! I'd have held off until February half-term at the earliest.

I understand C4 aren't having the greatest time with their schedule at the moment but they need to sort out the schedule for their "hit" shows.

Million Pound Drop should be aired in "pods" to build momentum. I think blocks of 2 weeks at most would be a good idea - but only airing Monday-Friday (or perhaps including Sunday/Excluding Friday). I'd have at least two months between it going off air and returning otherwise there is no anticipation for the program.

How about something like:
February half-term.
Easter
Sometime in May (perhaps the week before BGT goes live?)
August bank holiday
October half term
Christmas

That's a lot of episodes and should satisfy C4's need to programme it often but with more structure to it.

dear oh dear I had a brainfart

somehow I rounded 3513 (000's) to be 3.52m

sorry guys

Not your fault Mike. still means DS is being inconsistent with including HD and not including HD, even if the HD figure is low.

Here's an interesting note from MG: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011...nce-share-2010

Different 'definitions' of Primetime
17:30 to 00:00 - Channel 4
18:00 to 22:30 - BBC, Barb
19:00 to 22:30 - ITV
19:00 to 23:00 - Attentional

You forgot the Channel 5 definition
17:30-23:00 (exc. 18:30-20:00)

Bit of a daft comment from the BBC Two spokeswoman there. Why is she talking about 2011 shows like Stargazing Live and Eric and Ernie in response to an article about audience decline last year?

I imagine CSI will do well tonight but I wonder like in the US, Five will keep it in the Tuesday 9pm slot next year, the other CSIs have remained stabled but I think CSI should move to Fridays and either The Mentalist or a new US show take its old slot.

C4 will be happy finally a show that tops the 3 million mark.
Mickey and Lillian IMO are making shameless, its going to be great seeing how the ratings fair over this week.The episode was okay last night but older eps of the show were so much better.

Don't forget it's the Bieber episode tonight. All the Beliebers (sp?) will be tuning in.

I think a slot move next year should be considered depending on how it performs this season. Declines like last season wouldn't really be acceptable for that slot.

Tuesday at 9pm is Channel 5's most important of the week because it's ITV1's weakest, so they need to schedule the most popular programmes there.

Good evening for BBC1 to win primetime on a Monday night. EastEnders doesn't seem to have been negatively affected in the ratings by the baby swap controversy, Panorama rated about a million than normal and an excellent rating for Silent Witness which benefitted by no drama opposition on ITV1. BBC1's lineup as a whole at the moment looks very strong, with only Wednesdays and Sundays likely to be beaten by ITV1.

Fantastic ratings for the soaps on ITV1, particularly share-wise. The Biggest Loser struggled as expected - it's not Monday night 9pm material. In saying that, having watched it out of curiosity I don't think it'll fall much next week as for what it was it was decent enough. But like someone else said, ITV are about five years late with this show. Can't help but think they'd have been better off putting Taggart on Mondays where it'd get ~4.5m and The Biggest Loser on Tuesdays which'd probably have got ~3m. As it turns out, Taggart will really struggle tonight up against the 2nd part of Silent Witness and the season premiere of CSI.

Terrific start to the series for Shameless - pretty much the same as how the season openers have rated in previous years, though in those years it had a CBB lead-in so I think yesterday's performance was even more impressive than usual. With no E4 first airing this week, it should be able to keep 2.5-3.0m viewers for the rest of the week which is exactly what C4 needs at the moment, after months of pretty poor ratings. Incidentally, 1.4m 16-34s watched last night's opener which is very strong for a drama - pretty much as good as it gets apart from Doctor Who.


I don't think BARB has a specified definition of peak time. Their website in the Glossary section just says: "A daypart is a section of the viewing day, for example breakfast (0600-0924) or peak time (for which there are various definitions).

It's kind of annoying there's no 100% accepted definition of primetime among all the broadcasters and BARB because as the article says, each definition results in significantly different results.


The 17.0% share that Broadcast has mentioned for ITV1 definitely includes HD, as I've manually checked from BARB's monthly figures. It's quite a big yearly drop for ITV1 - their biggest since 2006.

As for BBC2, I don't think BBC HD would make much of a difference (a max of +0.1%) because in November & December BBC HD's monthly shares were 0.1%, and that includes many programmes which weren't even broadcast on BBC2.



Seems like for the last two days, DS has reported some ITV ratings excluding HD (even when HD was over 100k like Wild at Heart) which is confusing. Hopefully they return back to reporting all their ITV ratings with HD so it's clear.

They also did a promo for ITV 1 + 1 based on viewers watching This Morning now doing so an hour later - but then had to sheepishly apologise as he was informed that the channel does not launch until 8 pm.

He noted wrily that he and Holly had not been told about this despite then being a mainstay of the ITV advert plugging the channel.

On the next ad break ITV then plugged the channel as well and (incorrectly) told viewers it was available now.

Taggart 1983-present
Silent Witness 1996-present
CSI: Crime Scene Investigation 2000-present

Why is Taggart expected to struggle more than the others in that three-way? Ok, so Silent Witness is the second in a two-parter. But surely CSI is more likely to suffer over Taggart.

There is also live football on Two which could dent CSI's popularity among young males.