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I would rather the BBC's best programmes are put on the two main channels to get as many viewers as possible.
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Here's a roundup of yesterday's overnights:
Thursday 20th January Roundup BBC One 22:35- Question Time: 2.79m (21.3%) * up 50k week-on-week BBC Two 19:00- Who Does What: 960k (4.3%) 20:00- Michel Roux's Service: 1.25m (5.2%) 21:00- Men of Rock: 1.21m (5.1%) 22:00- The Great Outdoors: 810k (4%) 22:30- Newsnight: 350k (2.5%) ITV1 21:00- Kidnap & Ransom: 4.68m (19.7%) Channel 4 20:00- Relocation, Relocation: 1.71m (7%) , +1: 350k (1.5%) 21:00- Rome Wasn’t Built in a Day: 1.64m (6.9%) , +1: 223,700 (1.2%) 22:00- 10 O'Clock Live: 1.37m (7.8%) , +1: 138,200 (1.4%) * peak: 1.83m (8.69%) in first 10 mins * ended with 1.01m (7.1%) * above 3-month slot average of: 1.16m (6%) * won its slot among 16-34s, according to C4 Channel 5 20:00- Secrets of the Blitz: Revealed: 1.04m (4.3%) 21:00- Jack the Ripper: the Definitive Story: 1.3m (5.5%) 22:00- From Hell: 860,000 (6.6%) ITV2 20:00- American Idol: 484k * down 60% from 2010 opener of 1.24m Primetime Shares ITV1: 23.9% BBC One: 23.6% Channel 4: 6.4% (+1: 0.8%) BBC Two: 4.6% Channel 5: 4.4% ITV's Kidnap and Ransom fell quite a bit. I guess it didn't grip others in the same way it did me. The second episode wasn't quite as good as the first, bit predictable in places, but overall still a good watch and I'm looking forward to the conclusion on Thursday. Maybe it would have worked better stripped across 3 nights? BBC Two had a bit of a shocker, nearly beaten by Channel 5 in the primetime shares which is rare. Meanwhile it was a case of back down to earth with a bump for Channel 4 after the ratings victories that have got everyone talking in the past few days. Nothing of note last night, in fact quite the opposite. I thought 10 O'Clock Live would be the exception to the rule given the talent onboard but shows like that very rarely take off so I'm not overly surprised with its rating. Channel 5 had a mixed night. The soaps are underperforming a wee bit since they came back so of course that is a concern. But the factuals were very strong, as was Cowboy Builders and NCIS the previous night. If Truckers can post a good return rating tonight then apart from CSI on Tuesdays (which will timeshift well) most of primetime is looking healthy. Finally on multichannel, underwhelming premiere numbers for Idol- mirroring what we saw happen in the States but on a bigger scale. I wonder when they'll show The X Factor USA because presumably they won't want to show it at the same time as The X Factor UK is on? |
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ITV's Kidnap and Ransom fell quite a bit. I guess it didn't grip others in the same way it did me. The second episode wasn't quite as good as the first, bit predictable in places, but overall still a good watch and I'm looking forward to the conclusion on Thursday. Maybe it would have worked better stripped across 3 nights?
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American Idol fell back a bit further last night, posting a 7.7 rating among adults 18-49. That's down 21% from the season premiere and 24% lower than the second episode last season. Last season, following a premiere fuelled by Cowell's departure and Ellen's arrival, Idol saw a 14% decline over the first 2 nights. In 2009, it was flat.
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...saying that the AI for the first episode was only 86
As you say though, maybe it was too hard-hitting and the more violent scenes may have put off some viewers. Quote:
American Idol fell back a bit further last night, posting a 7.7 rating among adults 18-49. That's down 21% from the season premiere and 24% lower than the second episode last season. Last season, following a premiere fuelled by Cowell's departure and Ellen's arrival, Idol saw a 14% decline over the first 2 nights. In 2009, it was flat.
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If only Sky took this attitude, Boardwalk Empire stuck in the middle of a channel with 95% of the content made up of X files and 24 repeats:yawn:
Or, my preference, make it 'premium' so it can have an 8pm watershed and PIN protection during the day. |
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Repeat.
You do have to wonder why these 100,000 people watch an hour old bulletin on +1 when they could get the very latest from a dedicated news channel such as BBC News. |
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ITV's Kidnap and Ransom fell quite a bit. I guess it didn't grip others in the same way it did me. The second episode wasn't quite as good as the first, bit predictable in places, but overall still a good watch and I'm looking forward to the conclusion on Thursday. Maybe it would have worked better stripped across 3 nights?
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US Ratings - Thursday 20th January
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8pm – Wipeout – 8.3m (2.6) CBS: 8pm – The Big Bang Theory – 13.6m (4.2) 8.30pm – Sh*t My Dad Says – 10.3m (2.7) 9pm – CSI – 14.3m (3.1) 10pm – The Mentalist – 14.7m (2.8) FOX: 8pm – American Idol – 22.6m (7.7) 9pm – Bones – 10.9m (3.6) NBC: 8pm – Community – 4.7m (2.2) 8.30pm – Perfect Couples – 4.2m (2.1) 9pm – The Office – 8.3m (4.5) 9.30pm – Parks & Recreation – 6.2m (3.2) 10pm – 30 Rock – 5.3m (2.7) 10.30pm – Outsourced – 4.0m (1.8) % Of Viewers Aged 18-49 The Office – 72% Parks & Recreation – 68% 30 Rock – 67% Perfect Couples – 66% Community – 62% Outsourced – 59% American Idol – 45% Bones – 44% Wipeout – 41% The Big Bang Theory – 41% Sh*t My Dad Says – 35% CSI – 29% The Mentalist – 25% Bones started well at 9pm and if it keeps that form up then when ABC airs oriignals of Grey's Anatomy, CSI will be #1 for viewers at 9pm but #4 in the demo. The Big Bang Theory was down just 2/10ths of a point from last week, so CBS will be pleased. NBC had a solid 8pm hour and at 9pm The Office hit season highs and Parks & Recreation hit series highs, outperforming Outsourced which previously occupied that slot - no prizes for spotting that it was the only weak link in the 3 hour comedy line-up. 30 Rock did well at 10pm. Source: Entertainment Weekly |
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Thursday 20th January Roundup
BBC One 22:35- Question Time: 2.79m (21.3%) * up 50k week-on-week BBC Two 22:30- Newsnight: 350k (2.5%) ITV1 22:35- Odd One In: 1.2m (8.6) Channel 4 22:00- 10 O'Clock Live: 1.37m (7.8%) , +1: 138,200 (1.4%) * peak: 1.83m (8.69%) in first 10 mins * ended with 1.01m (7.1%) * above 3-month slot average of: 1.16m (6%) * won its slot among 16-34s, according to C4 |
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An AI of 86 is pretty good for a drama, particularly a first episode.
As you say though, maybe it was too hard-hitting and the more violent scenes may have put off some viewers. That's quite a big drop for Idol's 2nd episode. Still towering way over everything else but I think they would've been hoping to hold onto 85%+ of its premiere audience. I thought the new judging panel was great and there's a real chemistry there, so I was hoping it would've done better. What was Idol's lowest rating last season? I think this season it could fall to about a 5.5-6.0 in the demo for some episodes. Last Years Auditions: 11.8 & 10.1 9.9 & 9.9 9.0 & 9.1 9.0 & 7.8 Bootcamp rose to a 10.2 for Ellen's arrival, dropping 7% for the next episode. FOX will blame it on the new slot. That's not the strongest argument, IMO. Especially as CBS just put out a statement pointing to how little impact Idol had on their line-up. |
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Channel 4 is to extend tonight’s news programme and repeat an investigation into phone hacking following Andy Coulson’s resignation as the prime minister’s communications chief.
The 7pm Channel 4 New will be extended to one hour and More4 will repeat Dispatches investigation Tabloids, Tories and Telephone Hacking following today’s resignation by Coulson. The former News of the World editor has been under pressure over phone hacking allegations at the paper. In a statement Coulson said: “Unfortunately, continued coverage of events connected to my old job at the News of the World has made it difficult for me to give the 110% needed in this role.” C4’s flagship news programme, which usually runs for 30-mins on a Friday, will be presented by Krishnan Guru-Murthy. The decision to extend the programme was made to “accommodate two highly significant breaking news stories – Tony Blair’s appearance at the Chilcot Inquiry and the news of Andy Coulson’s resignation from No. 10”, a C4 News spokesperson said. “Channel 4 provides the flexibility to extend the programme when we know there is more to say- and when we know people want real depth on the stories being discussed up and down the country”, she added. Meanwhile, More4 will not show and Grand Designs which was due to be broadcast at 7.55pm. The More4 audience will be given another chance to see political journalist Peter Oborne’s investigation of allegations that during Coulson’s time as editor of News of the World phone hacking was a routine practice. The programme was first broadcast on C4 in October and was produced by Blakeway. |
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New BBC1 drama Outcasts is starting in week beginning 5th February: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pro...laced_outcasts
The question is what day? It could be any of Sunday to Wednesday. Having just had a look at the Digiguide update, I wonoder why the TV Burp slot is TBA, when its pretty clear that, that is when the show returns. Its a shame they didnt pair Primeval with TV Burp to start with, that might have helped the show. |
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Piers Morgan's ratings have dropped again. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...ree-days/79615 Quote:
Piers Morgan Tonight premiered well with Oprah, boosted his adults 25-54 demo with Howard Stern on night two, but his third night with Condi Rice brought no good ratings news.
Piers has lost a million viewers and nearly 300,000 adults 25-54 in three nights. Howard Stern wondered what his ratings will be like in three weeks when he’s interviewing the likes of Scott Baio. His third night is already approaching Larry King Live’s ~650,000 average viewers, and 170,000 in the 25-54 demo in his final three months. We will have to wait and see. Wednesday: FNC’s Hannity: 1,964,000 in P2+ (565,000 in 25-54) MSNBC’s Maddow: 1,094,000 in P2+ (221,000 in 25-54) CNN’s Piers: 1,028,000 in P2+ (239,000 in 25-54) Tuesday: Hannity: 2,182,900 in P2+ (506,441 in 25-54) Piers: 1,273,193 in P2+ (550,719 in 25-54) Maddow: 1,125,947 in P2+ (264,961 in 25-54) Monday: Hannity: 2,365,047 viewers (599,800 in 25-54) Piers: 2,099,462 viewers (520,519) Maddow: 1,111,865 viewers (342,013) |
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Worryingly Piers Morgan may be back from the US faster than we hoped. He doesnt have the intellect of Larry King, more like Vanessa Felz in that regard so it could be one man and his dog watching by next week.
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Bones started well at 9pm and if it keeps that form up then when ABC airs oriignals of Grey's Anatomy, CSI will be #1 for viewers at 9pm but #4 in the demo.
The Big Bang Theory was down just 2/10ths of a point from last week, so CBS will be pleased. NBC had a solid 8pm hour and at 9pm The Office hit season highs and Parks & Recreation hit series highs, outperforming Outsourced which previously occupied that slot - no prizes for spotting that it was the only weak link in the 3 hour comedy line-up. 30 Rock did well at 10pm. Source: Entertainment Weekly Idol is down quite considerably. It's still easily the biggest show on TV, but I expect a few Fox executives are munching their fingernails till they see exactly where it finishes. They need some good talent and Lythgoe's 'X-Factoring' up of the live shows to go down well. For the other networks, well I was surprised that CSI and The Mentalist didn't switch for this season, but the latter never really capitalised on a strong debut year. On an ultra-competetive night, both are frozen out somewhat. Thats why think the move to inject comedy at 8pm was a good one. As for ABC, I'm sure we'll be seeing Winter Wipeout back - against Idol in a terrible slot for them, that 2.6 represents a big, surprising in-season success! |
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Wow only 350k for Newsnight, that seems very low. I expect it is down to a combination of Question Time and the new Channel 4 show marketing itself as like Newsnight.
It did seem dumb for Channel 4 to charge in with 10 O'Clock Live though. They could have picked any other weeknight for exactly the same effect. |
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Sunday might be ok, given that there is nothing else on Sunday, but Wednesday seems unlikely.
Having just had a look at the Digiguide update, I wonoder why the TV Burp slot is TBA, when its pretty clear that, that is when the show returns. Its a shame they didnt pair Primeval with TV Burp to start with, that might have helped the show. Sunday is unlikely as a regular day - the BAFTAs is on 13th and South Riding was premiered in Bradford yesterday and looking likely for Sundays starting on 20th Feb - the DVD release has been delayed until 7 March. |
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Repeat.
You do have to wonder why these 100,000 people watch an hour old bulletin on +1 when they could get the very latest from a dedicated news channel such as BBC News. Quote:
American Idol fell back a bit further last night, posting a 7.7 rating among adults 18-49. That's down 21% from the season premiere and 24% lower than the second episode last season. Last season, following a premiere fuelled by Cowell's departure and Ellen's arrival, Idol saw a 14% decline over the first 2 nights. In 2009, it was flat.
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I think Newsnight is always walloped by Question Time, but both shows are so well established in their slots, I can't see anything changing.
It did seem dumb for Channel 4 to charge in with 10 O'Clock Live though. They could have picked any other weeknight for exactly the same effect. |
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I'm quite confused about the sudden dip in Neighbours ratings. Before Christmas its 1:45pm showing was getting over 1m, and the 5.30pm showing was getting between 1.5m and 1.7m. Nothing drastic has happened inbetween, so maybe the viewers will return when they are back in the habit after the Christmas break.
Home and Away is another slider. On Monday it returned triumphant with over 1m viewers, but has since slid to 800k. Bizzare! |
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I'm quite confused about the sudden dip in Neighbours ratings. Before Christmas its 1:45pm showing was getting over 1m, and the 5.30pm showing was getting between 1.5m and 1.7m. Nothing drastic has happened inbetween, so maybe the viewers will return when they are back in the habit after the Christmas break.
Home and Away is another slider. On Monday it returned triumphant with over 1m viewers, but has since slid to 800k. Bizzare! |
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I'm quite confused about the sudden dip in Neighbours ratings. Before Christmas its 1:45pm showing was getting over 1m, and the 5.30pm showing was getting between 1.5m and 1.7m. Nothing drastic has happened inbetween, so maybe the viewers will return when they are back in the habit after the Christmas break.
Home and Away is another slider. On Monday it returned triumphant with over 1m viewers, but has since slid to 800k. Bizzare! Neighbours is a bit more puzzling. Christmas week itself (with the exception of Christmas Eve) was a strong rating one. But since it's come back it's been really slow to get going again for some reason. It should pick up soon with some major storylines coming up to tie in with the 2010 finale which will air soon in the UK. |
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The Big Bang Theory held up really well against Idol, SMDS not so much but I think it's on the bubble as Rules of Engagement is moving into that slot in March. CSI and Bones dented each other while The Mentalist performed solidly. I think the lack of Idol will help NCIS and NCIS Los Angeles.
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Give the programme a break I say, it was ITV that let it down.
Similarly I don't think the general public are avoiding watching ITV because they don't think Tuesdays have anything good on. Most people don't know what series is on what day from one week to the next, if they can follow Corrie round the schedule they can cope with a drama being on any night of the week. I know Taggart is facing tough competition, but it's not as if ITV have put it opposite the World Cup Final or anything. Quote:
Sorry I feel this is down to Stv messing with the show. Up until this series Taggart's have been truly one-offs and Itv have only ever shown them in 1's or 2's at a time. This has meant there has always been an "event" feel to them being on.
Stv this year have changed the cast, the format, the producers, the writers and the music of the show to re-invent it. However, maybe it it ain't broke don't fix it? I still think a lot of Taggart's failure is down to the fact that Taggart is an old, old show and people are just bored of it. Even series like Peak Practice and Heartbeat, which were giant shows in their day, ended because the novelty wore off, and like Taggart they underwent various cast changes. Eventually a series comes to a natural end. And if they're changing the format, you end up with a series where people who don't usually watch Taggart don't watch it because they assume it's just like the old Taggart, and people who do watch it being alienated because it's not the old Taggart they liked. I think too it's overexaggerated how Taggart carries on because of international sales, I know it's in STV's interest to talk it up and keep it going because they have absolutely nothing else in their cupboard at all, but surely its sales are about the same as Midsomer or Lewis or something like that, enough to earn a bit of cash but hardly an Idol-style juggernaut. If STV had more than one programme, this series would have ended many years ago. Quote:
That's one commissioner for all output. There was nothing stopping him putting the 'bios' on BBC2.
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American Idol fell back a bit further last night, posting a 7.7 rating among adults 18-49. That's down 21% from the season premiere and 24% lower than the second episode last season. Last season, following a premiere fuelled by Cowell's departure and Ellen's arrival, Idol saw a 14% decline over the first 2 nights. In 2009, it was flat.
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