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I hope the new series of Top Gear does well on BBC2. I expect it to beat BBC1 as it has Terry Wogan's Ireland, which has had virtually no PR.
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I hope the new series of Top Gear does well on BBC2. I expect it to beat BBC1 as it has Terry Wogan's Ireland, which has had virtually no PR.
rzt, do you have a demo breakdown for the new Top Gear episode from Christmas? Interested to see whether it'll be BBC1 that's dented more on ITV1 with DOI. |
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Wow only 350k for Newsnight, that seems very low. I expect it is down to a combination of Question Time and the new Channel 4 show marketing itself as like Newsnight.
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BBC have axed Lark Rise to Candleford: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-22866641/
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BBC have axed Lark Rise to Candleford: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-22866641/
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BBC have axed Lark Rise to Candleford: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-22866641/
Or is it a publicity stunt? If not, one wonders what other BBC1 staples Danny Cohen has in his sights...
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I'm not one for watching period dramas but it seems a shame to axe this given its high viewership. I can't imagine any potential new drama to launch on Sunday at 8pm would be able to hold 6.5m viewers every week against DOI.
BBC1 is under new management. |
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To be fair, although I don't watch it, it seems the show was reaching its natural end, and I guess they only expected it to last 4 series'.
Edit, demo breakdown thanks to rzt: Lark Rise to Candleford 16 to 54.... 2.08m (31%) and 1.99m (30%) ABC1........ 3.78m (57%) and 3.58m (54%) |
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Great numbers for Hattie on Wednesday. The Beeb is having a real series of hits with these biog dramas. Hattie, Eric & Ernie, Hancock & Joan, Road to Coro St, Steptoe, Frankie Howerd, Hughie Greene... - and the others I have forgotten. Every one has been a 5-star gem, and brought great numbers for BBC4 (and BBC2 in E&E's case).
IMO, every single one of these could have aired on BBC1 and got decent numbers, rather than being buried on less-watched channels. Perhaps with budget cuts and summer schedules to fill, we could see a BBC1 repeat run of the whole lot as a series? As much as I adore BBC4 - for the hidden gems it turns up and the general quality of its output - I do wish it didn't exist. Nothing on BBC4 over the course of the year needs burying on a highbrow ghetto channel. Every single one of its programmes or films could be shown on BBC1 or BBC2. Although it runs against the grain to suggest keeping BBC3 but axeing BBC4, I do think this would make sense, and allow the Beeb to focus on having 3 quality channels, aimed at slightly different demographics and approach, and with a genuine hierarchy of growing new talent and formats through two feeder channels. Whilst allowing all the good shows on all channels still to be commissioned, and cutting some of the filler, whilst still trimming back on budgets slightly. |
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As for Thursday, disappointing to see Kidnap & Ransom drop below 5m in the overnights. I think it's rather good, and credit for ITV in allowing Trevor Eve to make this. It has a real "BBC quality" feel about it. Good stuff, and I hope the dropping ratings don't prevent a second outing next year.
Shame, too, that all of BBC1's key Thursday shows saw a ratings decline. Quite a big drop for Human Planet, and a sub-5m overnight suggests the Thursday slot against the Soap Hour isn't the right one. CFWM falling to 5.8m isn't good, and NGO is dropping back towards its pre-axe 3m-odd range. A dismally bad episode on Thursday - the worst ever - may lead to a further drop next week. (Alternatively, it may be the fact it was a stinker, and a bit "ripe" in content for mainstream BBC1, that led to it delivering just 4m? - viewers might give next week's another try) |
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Great numbers for Hattie on Wednesday. The Beeb is having a real series of hits with these biog dramas. Hattie, Eric & Ernie, Hancock & Joan, Road to Coro St, Steptoe, Frankie Howerd, Hughie Greene... - and the others I have forgotten. Every one has been a 5-star gem, and brought great numbers for BBC4 (and BBC2 in E&E's case).
IMO, every single one of these could have aired on BBC1 and got decent numbers, rather than being buried on less-watched channels. Perhaps with budget cuts and summer schedules to fill, we could see a BBC1 repeat run of the whole lot as a series? As much as I adore BBC4 - for the hidden gems it turns up and the general quality of its output - I do wish it didn't exist. Nothing on BBC4 over the course of the year needs burying on a highbrow ghetto channel. Every single one of its programmes or films could be shown on BBC1 or BBC2. Although it runs against the grain to suggest keeping BBC3 but axeing BBC4, I do think this would make sense, and allow the Beeb to focus on having 3 quality channels, aimed at slightly different demographics and approach, and with a genuine hierarchy of growing new talent and formats through two feeder channels. Whilst allowing all the good shows on all channels still to be commissioned, and cutting some of the filler, whilst still trimming back on budgets slightly. It would have interested them more than many others, but I would think they're the ones least likely to switch on BBC4. |
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Provisional schedules out for week beginning 5th February:
- Harry Hill's TV Burp returns on 5th February at 7pm on ITV1, with it repeated on 6th February at 6pm. Their schedule for 5th February will run as follows, barring minor timing changes: 18:30 - You've Been Framed! 19:00 - Harry Hill's TV Burp 19:30 - Primeval 20:30 - Take Me Out 21:45 - Benidorm (R) 22:45 - ITV News With BBC1 doing: 16:35 - Six Nations Rugby Union 19:00 - Total Wipeout 20:00 - The National Lottery: In It to Win It 20:50 - Casualty 21:40 - Come Fly with Me (R) 22:10 - BBC News 22:30 - Match of the Day If I was ITV, I'd move all their timings 15 minutes forward so TV Burp begins at 18:45, just as the Rugby is finishing. While on the subject of BBC1 and Saturday's last weeks News of the World reported that Secret Fortune was starting on 12th February, replacing In It to Win It. - Dancing on Ice on the Sunday is still, even on 5th February two hours long. BTW, I calculate that if there's an elimination per week from now, it'll finish on 27th March. - Outcasts will either start on Sunday 5th February or Wednesday 8th February. The Wednesday slot could be good... on the Wednesday it would be starting towards the closing stages of the England game, and we all know what happens when an England game finishes on ITV. They've got TBA at 21:30, I can only realistically see that being the displaced Emmerdale episode myself, which won't be on at 19:00. Oh, and in case anyone is keeping an eye on Million Pound Drop's scheduling, it appears it'll be on from 22:00 to 23:20 on Friday's and 21:00 to 22:20 on Saturday's. The opposition is quite poor on Saturday's, so it should still be ~2m there. |
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Friday ratings have just now been released by BARB, so we might get them soon... D.M.N. - I'll post the demo information later today when I can. Quote:
I'm not one for watching period dramas but it seems a shame to axe this given its high viewership. I can't imagine any potential new drama to launch on Sunday at 8pm would be able to hold 6.5m viewers every week against DOI.
Danny Cohen shouldn't get the blame though - we heard about Lark Rise possibly being axed as early as this time last year when Jay Hunt was in charge. |
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Danny Cohen shouldn't get the blame though - we heard about Lark Rise possibly being axed as early as this time last year when Jay Hunt was in charge.
(I still wonder if he might - they were axing 6Music too, don't forget. And Not Going Out did get axed...) |
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With the budget cuts, I think the BBC probably thought it was a good time to end Lark Rise (4 years is a good innings and the main writer doesn't want to continue with it) and spend that money on another show, maybe even giving way for Upstairs Downstairs. Danny Cohen shouldn't get the blame though - we heard about Lark Rise possibly being axed as early as this time last year when Jay Hunt was in charge. |
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Well, Danny Cohen is the one who's axed it! He could have recommissioned it.
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Scheduling Newsnight against Question Time has always been one of the oddities of BBC programme planning as clearly both programmes would appeal to more or less the same audience.Rather similar to the occasions BBC1 and BBC2 both carry Wimbledon at the same time.
It is rather daft, but short of moving Question Time to 9pm or 11.20pm (neither of which makes sense), I am not sure what they can do about it. In a similar vein, does anyone else think it crazy that Channel 4 have got their big new 16-34 targeted Ten O'Clock Live against their well established 16-34 cult hit Skins on E4? Do I assume from this that George Dixon is now in post?
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Making way for a full seies of Upstairs Downstairs no doubt. Although I'd think UD will struggle to match LRTCs ratings
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The same Upstairs Downstairs that got 9m viewers at Christmas?
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- Outcasts will either start on Sunday 5th February or Wednesday 8th February. The Wednesday slot could be good... on the Wednesday it would be starting towards the closing stages of the England game, and we all know what happens when an England game finishes on ITV. They've got TBA at 21:30, I can only realistically see that being the displaced Emmerdale episode myself, which won't be on at 19:00.
Sundays would be okay-ish but I dunno if the BBC would want it to air at the same time as Being Human, and also WaH/DOI is quite tough opposition (even if they do possibly appeal to different audiences). Also, as someone pointed out yesterday, the BBC will be airing the BAFTAs and South Riding on Sundays quite soon which makes it more unlikely Outcasts will air there. On Wednesdays, ITV will be showing a lot of football matches including Champions League stuff like Barca v Arsenal which is bound to rate well and could knock Outcasts down a bit. So I think Mondays would be best. |
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How about Monday or Tuesday? They currently are down as TBA. I know it was rumoured a few weeks ago that Waking The Dead would take those slots after Silent Witness ends, but there's no sign of WTD on the BBC Press Office and recently Trevor Eve has been saying that it's due to return in the Spring. A Monday slot for Outcasts would be great due to the relatively weak competition (particularly in terms of drama).
Sundays would be okay-ish but I dunno if the BBC would want it to air at the same time as Being Human, and also WaH/DOI is quite tough opposition (even if they do possibly appeal to different audiences). Also, as someone pointed out yesterday, the BBC will be airing the BAFTAs and South Riding on Sundays quite soon which makes it more unlikely Outcasts will air there. On Wednesdays, ITV will be showing a lot of football matches including Champions League stuff like Barca v Arsenal which is bound to rate well and could knock Outcasts down a bit. So I think Mondays would be best. |
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With all this talk about demo's I have a question;
What does it matter as long as a show brings in good ratings? |
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Robbie, good ratings are for life not just Christmas
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How about Monday or Tuesday? They currently are down as TBA. I know it was rumoured a few weeks ago that Waking The Dead would take those slots after Silent Witness ends, but there's no sign of WTD on the BBC Press Office and recently Trevor Eve has been saying that it's due to return in the Spring. A Monday slot for Outcasts would be great due to the relatively weak competition (particularly in terms of drama).
Outcasts has up-its-own-arse flop written all over it. |
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With all this talk about demo's I have a question;
What does it matter as long as a show brings in good ratings? |
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Interesting to see that Gypsy Weddings skewing quite upmarket - more so than anything else on besides Silent Witness and HIGNFY.
Taggart's age profile is terrible. As if the sub-3m ratings weren't enough. Of course, if ratings are down on ITV1, then STV should maybe consider flogging the series to Channel 5, where 3 million viewers would be a major ratings coup for them. |
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