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The Ratings Thread (Part 16)
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D.M.N.
29-01-2011
BBC recommission Come Fly with Me: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...nd-series.html
rzt
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“I find the 18-49 to be really useful because it provides a nice simple snapshot that combines raw numbers and skews together. Skews on their own can be misleading.

The usefulness of them, I think, is more in comparing across British shows. So I'd be in favour of using the British method. Comparisons with the US are only really for a bit of amusement, and in reality are pretty meaningless. Better that we look at the stats that our own broadcasters use. We'd get used to them soon enough.”

Cheers sn_22. I'll see what I can do to make it more relevant in terms of using the British method. I might also add a male/female split % too for people who may be interested.

Quote:
“Whatever is decided, thank you for these daily breakdowns. It'd be easy for us to get a little presumptuous about having the figures to hand and forget how incredibly generous with your time you must be to provide them. Cheers. ”

No problem, you're welcome.

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“UK population by age:

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/statbas...asp?vlnk=15106

Office for National Statistics
Mid Year Population Estimates 2009: 24/06/10 (2.7Mb - Zip)
- Table 1 UK”

Thanks GeorgeS. So as of the latest data available, there's 27.365m people in the UK aged 18-49.
ftv
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Intesting to listen to Adam Boultons pitch for Sky News hosting an election debate in Ireland. He said they would expect 350k viewers in Ireland for a debate at around 7.30/ 8pm in late February. Also selling it based on it being shown globally around Europe, the Middle East and Australia.

Will be interesting to see if it comes to pass or not.”

I suspect Boulton is assuming that every single person in the Republic who has Sky would be watching his programme which is, of course, complete nonsense. Surely the debate would also have to be carried by RTE ?
GeorgeS
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“ So as of the latest data available, there's 27.365m people in the UK aged 18-49.”

And last night:
Hustle 2.2m
Comedy Rocks 1.1m
Embarrasing Bodies 1.6m
The Mentalist 0.5m
most weren't watching tv at all by the look of things!
GeorgeS
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by ftv:
“I suspect Boulton is assuming that every single person in the Republic who has Sky would be watching his programme which is, of course, complete nonsense. Surely the debate would also have to be carried by RTE ?”

No he mentioned that Sky News is available to about 80% of the ROI pop (It was either 80 or 90% I wasnt paying enough attention ). the ROI has very high cable penetration in the cities and very high Sky uptake outside of the cities.

So the people able to access Sky News free in the ROI would be somewhere around 3m by my very rough math.

Sky has seperate ad sales for Ireland and the group of channels has considerable share in the younger age brackets
http://www.skymedia.ie/Audience-Insi...ial-share.aspx
all_night
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“And last night:
Hustle 2.2m
Comedy Rocks 1.1m
Embarrasing Bodies 1.6m
The Mentalist 0.5m
most weren't watching tv at all by the look of things!”

Are the overnights for last night?

Edit, just read the last few posts
Dancc
29-01-2011
It will be interesting to see the US news ratings for yesterday.

Piers Morgan's show was live for the first time with the latest on the situation in Egypt.
GeorgeS
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by all_night:
“Are the overnights for last night? ”

the 18-49 ratings that rzt posted.
D.M.N.
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“It will be interesting to see the US news ratings for yesterday.

Piers Morgan's show was live for the first time with the latest on the situation in Egypt.”

Thursday's ratings were not too promising for Piers: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-tumbles/80643
Dancc
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Thursday's ratings were not too promising for Piers: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-tumbles/80643”

Yikes, those are bad. His demo rating was worse than Parker Spitzer at 8pm.

I was guilty of reading too much into his first few nights ratings. His viewership has quickly collapsed after that initial burst of curiosity, and now CNN are presumably not much better off than they were with Larry?
derek500
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Thursday's ratings were not too promising for Piers: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/201...-tumbles/80643”

Fourth over all and in the key demo.

I'm sorry, but I'm so happy. The man is a creep!!
garyessex
29-01-2011
I'm saddened by those Fox News figures.
derek500
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by garyessex:
“I'm saddened by those Fox News figures.”


Yes, they should be much higher. 3m out of a population of 250m is really poor.
Dancc
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Fourth over all and in the key demo.

I'm sorry, but I'm so happy. The man is a creep!!”

But- if his show is axed, he might come back to Britain and make more shows for ITV.

Originally Posted by garyessex:
“I'm saddened by those Fox News figures.”

Me too. And they actually believe what they are watching is news as well:

"MSNBC wil definitely drop next week. Fox does a much better job in reporting the news."

"The reason Fox beats the other channels, is they actually report all the news. I used to watch MSNBC until the Acorn scandal that they didn’t report on. Fox beat everyone on that, I have been with Fox since then and know what I was missing."
sn_22
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“BBC recommission Come Fly with Me: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...nd-series.html”

Not a surprise to see. Getting the recommission in quickly so they should be set for another run in early 2011.

This series, along with Miranda, has been a bit of badly needed good news for BBC comedy. The Thursday block has worked really nicely for them - its just a shame they don't seem to have much to follow it up with. I saw a trail for Mrs Browns Boys the other day - think I'll be giving that one a miss.
mancitybean
29-01-2011
Happy for a series 2 of CFWM. Million £ Drop did well, C4 are on a roll.
derek500
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Not a surprise to see. Getting the recommission in quickly so they should be set for another run in early 2011. ”

Or even 2012!! Don't know how they can take it forward, without a major staff turnover though.
C14E
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Yikes, those are bad. His demo rating was worse than Parker Spitzer at 8pm.

I was guilty of reading too much into his first few nights ratings. His viewership has quickly collapsed after that initial burst of curiosity, and now CNN are presumably not much better off than they were with Larry?”

Apparently the Kardashians aren't a big draw on cable news. Who'd have thought it. I give it a few more weeks before they reformat the show. Hour long interviews with such a mix of guests just aren't going to work long-term as I've said from the start.

More generally, it must be getting blindingly obvious to someone at Time Warner that the problem can't just be hosts. Before they start changing again, they need to work out who they want to watch. If they want to stay "unbiased", they need to work out another way of making the network stand out. MSNBC goes left, FOX News goes right and every night those networks provide programming that will appeal to their target audiences. Piers' lunges from Oprah to Howard Stern to Rudi Giuliani to the Kardashians and that's just reflective of the channel as a whole. There's no consistency.
cherubmattd
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“BBC recommission Come Fly with Me: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/...nd-series.html”

I'm glad it got off to a flying start and has now landed a 2nd series.



sn_22
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Or even 2012!! Don't know how they can take it forward, without a major staff turnover though.”

Yikes. Of course. Still can't quite get used to 2012 being next year.

I'm sure they'll have some new characters coming in - but there's still at least another 6 episodes in the ones they've got to be honest.
nick202
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by cherubmattd:
“I'm glad it got off to a flying start and has now landed a 2nd series.



”

I see what you've done there, and I like it
ftv
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“No he mentioned that Sky News is available to about 80% of the ROI pop (It was either 80 or 90% I wasnt paying enough attention ). the ROI has very high cable penetration in the cities and very high Sky uptake outside of the cities.

So the people able to access Sky News free in the ROI would be somewhere around 3m by my very rough math.

Sky has seperate ad sales for Ireland and the group of channels has considerable share in the younger age brackets
http://www.skymedia.ie/Audience-Insi...ial-share.aspx”

The official figure for the population of the Republic in 2008 was 4.35 million so if 80% can receive Sky that's 3.48 million. Either way Boulton's figures don't add up, let's hope his reporting is rather more accurate.
ftv
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Yikes, those are bad. His demo rating was worse than Parker Spitzer at 8pm.

I was guilty of reading too much into his first few nights ratings. His viewership has quickly collapsed after that initial burst of curiosity, and now CNN are presumably not much better off than they were with Larry?”

I'm sure Piers will find someone else to blame.
GeorgeS
29-01-2011
Originally Posted by ftv:
“The official figure for the population of the Republic in 2008 was 4.35 million so if 80% can receive Sky that's 3.48 million. Either way Boulton's figures don't add up, let's hope his reporting is rather more accurate.”

They are my figures based on listening to him and his prediction was an audience of 350k to Sky News Election debate if it goes ahead in Ireland.

I can probably get the exact Sky News reach figure from AC Nielsen but cant really be bothered searching right now.

Safe to say from my own personal experience, Sky News is available in most places in Ireland and is the default news channel in most bars, hotels, etc
Charnham
29-01-2011
good news about Come Fly With Me, it also has a Royal Wedding themed episode as well doesnt it?
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