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The Ratings Thread (Part 16)
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derek500
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by mattpinder:
“EastEnders' HD debut pulled in over 1m viewers on BBC One HD.
I do think some HD scheduling decisions may come down to "Which programme is more likely to pull in the most viewers"

Sadly, looking at the HD figures for Episodes (considering it went out just 30 minutes after BBC2), they made the right decision.”

No way would the EastEnders repeat have pulled in a million on BBC HD. It gets about that on BBC3.

In fact theThursday 30th December episode on BBC3 got 1.012m, and the BBC HD simulcast didn't make the top ten, so somewhere below 63,000!!!!

Episodes would have been higher than EE as a simulcast.

Nurse Betty, Rev and The Trip which all had HD simulcasts proved that. Consistenty top ten BBC HD shows, which the EE repeats aren't.
rzt
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“In fact theThursday 30th December episode on BBC3 got 1.012m, and the BBC HD simulcast didn't make the top ten, so somewhere below 63,000!!!!

Episodes would have been higher than EE as a simulcast. ”

Yesterday's 10pm BBC HD repeat of EastEnders had just 3,000 viewers. So I agree that Episodes probably should've been given priority as it was the "new" programme, and a simulcast of BBC2 would have more likely got a higher rating than a simulcast of BBC3.
mattpinder
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“No way would the EastEnders repeat have pulled in a million on BBC HD. It gets about that on BBC3.

In fact theThursday 30th December episode on BBC3 got 1.012m, and the BBC HD simulcast didn't make the top ten, so somewhere below 63,000!!!!”

I never said it would pull in 1m HD viewers for the repeat. But the fact that it regularly pulls in 700/800k on first broadcast suggests that the schedulers may think a simulcast repeat at 10pm will do better.
D.M.N.
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“No way would the EastEnders repeat have pulled in a million on BBC HD. It gets about that on BBC3.”

mattpinder was talking about the BBC1 HD simulcast of EastEnders. One of the BBC1 HD ratings for Christmas Day was was reported on the Doctor Who News website: http://gallifreynewsbase.blogspot.co...t-ratings.html

The BBC1 HD simulcast of Doctor Who had 1.3m, as noted in the above link. The EastEnders BBC1 HD simulcast had a similarly high number - 1.09m.
nick202
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Yesterday's 10pm BBC HD repeat of EastEnders had just 3,000 viewers. So I agree that Episodes probably should've been given priority as it was the "new" programme, and a simulcast of BBC2 would have more likely got a higher rating than a simulcast of BBC3.”

I know it's a late-night repeat, but 3,000 is appalling, although hardly surprising given that EE seems to the 'Tesco Value' of the BBC's HD output.
Chris1964
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“2010 FINAL OVERALL AUDIENCE SHARES (per Broadcast magazine):

BBC1 - 20.8% (2009 - 20.9%) Change = Down 0.5%
BBC2 - 6.9% (2009 - 7.5%) Change = Down 8.0%
ITV1 - 17.0% (2009 - 17.8%) Change = Down 4.5%
C4 (inc +1) - 7.0% (2009 - 7.4%) Change = Down 5.4%
Five - 4.5% (2009 - 4.9%) Change = Down 8.2%
Multichannel - 43.8% (2009 - 41.5%) Change = Up 5.5%

Notes:

1) BBC2 is reported as actually having the biggest fall. This is slightly different to the above and will be because the numbers above are only to one decimal place (eg BBC2 MAY actually have fallen from say 7.54% to 6.86%).

2) Notwithstanding the above, it's obviously very close between BBC2 and Five for the "prize" of the largest fall. I thought someone on here said that Five had been doing well in recent months? It appears that is not the case.

3) Multichannel numbers not reported by Broadcast but are implied as balancing figures.

4) BBC1 is clearly the best performing terrestrial channel by a very wide margin in terms of both actual share and, more importantly, the change for the year.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/rating...022153.article”

Yes iv been looking everywhere for Broadcast Magazine these last weeks but you obviously had more luck than me.

Tremendous performance by BBC1 to almost maintain share in the past year.
derek500
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Yesterday's 10pm BBC HD repeat of EastEnders had just 3,000 viewers. So I agree that Episodes probably should've been given priority as it was the "new" programme, and a simulcast of BBC2 would have more likely got a higher rating than a simulcast of BBC3.”

The Trip was getting up to 99,000 in that slot, with similar SD ratings to Episodes.

Regardless of whether or not it was EE or Episodes, 3,000 for that slot is incredulous.

BARB got it wrong?
Dancc
11-01-2011
That BBC HD figure for EastEnders is appalling. Why does it even need a HD repeat? Viewers can catch it in HD on BBC One HD. Get rid and use the slot more effectively, BBC.
rzt
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Regardless of whether or not it was EE or Episodes, 3,000 for that slot is incredulous.

BARB got it wrong?”

Possibly. The episodes so far that have been shown on BBC HD at 10pm haven't rated much better though:

Thu 30th Dec- 16k
Fri 31st Dec- n/a (<2k)
Mon 3rd Jan- 16k
Tue 4th Jan- 28k
Thu 6th - 14k
Fri 7th- 11k
Dancc
11-01-2011
BREAKING NEWS

Australia: Neighbours debuts on Eleven with 254,000 viewers.
Fudd
11-01-2011
Just in regards to the missing Part 3 of the thread, I've received a reply but it's as predicted earlier in the thread - it's been removed to reduce server load.

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The ridiculous scheduling from ITV1 last night worked as predicted by many; namely The Biggest Loser being the biggest loser and losing ratings hand over fist. Silent Witness was the main beneficiary though we'll have to wait for the officials to see what kind of impact the football had there. Shameless and the soaps had terrific nights.
Charnham
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“BREAKING NEWS

Australia: Neighbours debuts on Eleven with 254,000 viewers.”

you beat me to it.

Seems like a good figure for the launch, would be nice if it stays above 200,000 must of the week.

ELEVEN good enough for a 3.6 share for the day, well behind Go! 7.9, but still the 3 most watch multi channel. TBH I would think TEN are hoping ELEVEN will get a 4% share.
Dancc
11-01-2011
And there's another big story from last night - Nine News beats Seven News! Full details coming up...
Charnham
11-01-2011
Aussie Ratings

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/01/week-3-4.html
Dancc
11-01-2011
Seven
06:00 Sunrise 0.51m
18:00 Seven News Special 1.44m
19:00 Today Tonight 1.08m
19:30 Minute To Win It 0.62m
20:30 I Shouldn't Be Alive 0.67m

Nine
06:00 Today 0.45m
18:00 Nine News Special 1.56m
19:00 A Current Affair 1.17m
19:30 The Big Bang Theory (R) 0.84m
20:00 Top Gear (R) 0.63m
21:30 Nine News: Flood Disaster 0.81m

Ten
17:00 Ten News at Five Special Extended Bulletin 0.74m
19:00 The 7pm Project 0.67m
19:30 Talkin' 'Bout Your Generation (R) 0.73m
20:30 NCIS: Los Angeles (R) 0.63m

ABC1
19:00 ABC News 0.98m
19:30 The 7.30 Report Summer Eddition 0.82m
20:00 Poh's Kitchen (R) 0.43m
20:30 Rick Stein's Taste of the Italian Opera (R) 0.36m

GO!
19:00 (Movie) Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone 0.42m

Eleven
18:30 Neighbours 0.25m
19:00 Everybody Loves Raymond 0.11m
19:30 The Simpsons 0.17m
20:00 Futurama 0.21m
20:30 The Office 0.13m
21:00 The Office 0.13m
21:30 Nurse Jackie 0.16m
22:05 Californication 0.13m

Shares
Nine: 25.0%
Seven: 19.4%
Ten: 13.5%
ABC1: 10.9%
GO!: 7.9%
Eleven: 3.6%

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Very good start for Neighbours on Eleven considering the competition. About what I expected for it, albeit at the lower end of my 250-300k prediction. Eleven generally got off to a good start, settling into third place out of the multichannels. Impressive for its first day on the air, I remember GO! and 7TWO took a lot longer to gain a respectable audience share.

The news ratings were strong across the board as you'd expect. Surprising to see Nine beat Seven when Seven beats Nine normally all year round. It's a blow for Seven who have come under fire for not providing as much rolling coverage as Nine on the floods.
Glamour Girl
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“EE doing very well too in light of the whole media storm surrounding the programme at the moment.
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I never for once thought people who watched every week would stop because of the bad press. I just wish they had stuck with some of the original scripts. OK, wrap up this baby storyline by April but tonight several funeral scenes were clearly cut and replaced by a couple of utterly embarrassing comedy "sketches" between Jodie and Poppy that have to be seen to be believed! It was like something out of Catherine Tate shoehorned into the middle. Once you have gone this far with the story at least show the funeral but it seems the minority have won leaving the episodes all over the place
michael777
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Yesterday's 10pm BBC HD repeat of EastEnders had just 3,000 viewers. So I agree that Episodes probably should've been given priority as it was the "new" programme, and a simulcast of BBC2 would have more likely got a higher rating than a simulcast of BBC3.”

Oh my god, 3,000 viewers is horrendous!
Fudd
11-01-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Seven
06:00 Sunrise 0.51m
18:00 Seven News Special 1.44m
19:00 Today Tonight 1.08m
19:30 Minute To Win It 0.62m
20:30 I Shouldn't Be Alive 0.67m

Nine
06:00 Today 0.45m
18:00 Nine News Special 1.56m
19:00 A Current Affair 1.17m
19:30 The Big Bang Theory (R) 0.84m
20:00 Top Gear (R) 0.63m
21:30 Nine News: Flood Disaster 0.81m

Ten
17:00 Ten News at Five Special Extended Bulletin 0.74m
19:00 The 7pm Project 0.67m
19:30 Talkin' 'Bout Your Generation 0.73m
20:30 NCIS: Los Angeles 0.63m

ABC1
19:00 ABC News 0.98m
19:30 The 7.30 Report Summer Eddition 0.82m
20:00 Poh's Kitchen (R) 0.43m
20:30 Rick Stein's Taste of the Italian Opera (R) 0.36m

Eleven
18:30 Neighbours 0.25m
19:30 The Simpsons 0.17m
20:00 Futurama 0.21m
20:30 The Office 0.13m
21:00 The Office 0.13m
21:30 Nurse Jackie 0.16m
22:05 Californication 0.13m

Shares
Nine: 25.0%
Seven: 19.4%
Ten: 13.5%
ABC1: 10.9%
Eleven: 3.6%”

Neighbours did better than I expected it to considering the news opposition. Maybe ELEVEN will be hoping for it to increase above 300,000 once the news programmes settle.

Nine News did very well - could the Perth fire offer a clue why; that they were covering more of Australia than concentrating on the floods?
Dancc
12-01-2011
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Neighbours did better than I expected it to considering the news opposition. Maybe ELEVEN will be hoping for it to increase above 300,000 once the news programmes settle.

Nine News did very well - could the Perth fire offer a clue why; that they were covering more of Australia than concentrating on the floods? ”

I agree, it did really well. I was beginning to expect a lot worse after some of the predictions I've read over the past few days. Someone put it as low as 50k.

So actually it has come out of it quite well and managed to post a solid rating. It was well ahead of its nearest competition on digital in that timeslot- Gem's Friends was a distant 2nd with 109k.

It's a shame we don't know how Ten News rated across the 6pm hour though to see how well the main channel held up. Given the average of around 750k across the two hours, I reckon at 5pm it was probably close to 1 million, then dipped to around 500k for the 2nd hour.
Georged123
12-01-2011
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Just in regards to the missing Part 3 of the thread, I've received a reply but it's as predicted earlier in the thread - it's been removed to reduce server load.”

A shame that its been deleted, this thread is a great source of ratings and that part contained a lot of interesting data.
Dancc
12-01-2011
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“A shame that its been deleted, this thread is a great source of ratings and that part contained a lot of interesting data.”

Yeah. I'm forever looking back and searching these threads for old data. The fact that a massive chunk of the thread is inaccessible is a real shame. But I suppose it's not a decision that would have taken lightly by DS.
Jonwo
12-01-2011
I know news is popular in Australia but two hours is a bit much, an hour is long enough with both national and regional news.

The gap between Sunrise and Today is very small, I know Kochie and Mel are away but are the hosts of Today away?
garyessex
12-01-2011
Maybe an OT question but in Oz there is Seven, Nine, Ten (and now 11) but whatever happened too One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six & Eight?
Wozza20
12-01-2011
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I would have thought they would cancel it.

PSB elements my ....

The Biggest Loser is an awful way to loose weight, not at all healthy.

meanwhile The Biggest Loser is really just daytime programming in a flash package, and sold to primetime.

They deserve this flop, because after it airing apparntly unoticed in Daytime, the decesion came to move it to primetime”

A couple of questions:

1) Did you watch it?
2) What would your reaction have been if it was shown on the BBC?
Steve Williams
12-01-2011
Originally Posted by Wozza20:
“2) What would your reaction have been if it was shown on the BBC?”

Well, it wouldn't have been shown on the BBC, certainly not 9pm on BBC1. I hardly think you can justify this by saying it has "PSB elements" because it involves people losing weight, you may as well argue that Snog Marry Avoid has "PSB elements" because it involves people discussing body image. You can argue everything had "PSB elements", people lose weight appearing on Strictly.

The Biggest Loser is a bit of light factual fluff, along the same lines as, yes, Snog Marry Avoid. I'm not saying it's a bad thing but it seems pointless to try and argue it's in the slightest bit important. And given the regular argument about BBC1 is that it puts too much daytime stuff in primetime, this is an actual daytime programme.
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