Actually I think the problem is that the fans are the only ones now watching Primeval; like Dr Who in the 1980s it's lost the "casual" non-fan audience and all that's now left is the hardcore.

Antiques Roadshow and Countryfile seem to have loyal audiences of about 5-6m during the winter months who will watch it no matter what they're up against. The BBC must be delighted that they've got two programmes like this in the slot all year-round bringing in solid ratings (particularly Countryfile). Lark Rise To Candleford's rating is pretty low though - one of its lower overnights from the last two series and Terry Wogan's Ireland didn't retain as many viewers as I was expecting. But a solid night overall for BBC1.


Another strong rating for Top Gear. The move from Q4 to Q1 seems to have paid off. At least now it's able to stick in its 8pm slot and not move around some weeks to avoid shows like TXF or SPOTY.


Dancing on Ice was down compared to last week which is a bit surprising given that the run-time was shorter and they had that "twist". Making the show more controversial by having such twists doesn't seem like a good move to me - I'm all for freshening the show up but when it comes to BB-style twists, I just don't think it works for this particular show (especially last night's twist). I think ITV, however, will be pretty pleased with how the series has been rating so far, as the first four weeks have been up 5% year-on-year which is at least an improvement and what they'd have been hoping for. Wild at Heart and That Sunday Night Show rated pretty similar to previous weeks. I actually think WaH is doing well to stay above the 7m mark considering the tough competition which has come in from BBC2 - last year, it often was rating in the 6's.


Great retention for Being Human - traditionally its ratings have fallen off quite a bit for episode 2 but last night's was only 0.2m down which is very little. Also a superb rating for Got To Dance - recent weeks it's been getting 0.6/0.7m so it's done well to build its audience to what I think is its best since the first night. I don't watch GTD but from the clips I've seen, it looks like a really well produced programme which I think could've also rated really well on terrestrial TV.


Someone who watched half the programme (say from 9-9.30pm) would be counted as half a viewer in terms of the average (average ratings are calculated by 1/5-minute breakdowns so if a viewer switches off half-way through, they're no longer counted as watching the programme for the subsequent 30 mins and that's factored into the average). I know what you're trying to say though, but to that I would say that the vast majority of people who watch on +1 would be non-repeat viewers. Therefore I'm personally inclined to say that 8.24m is the more realistic figure as to how many people watched it, but of course I don't mind if someone else thinks 7.28m is more accurate as there's no right or wrong method.

Cracking timeshift for the show, making it the most watched broadcast on C4 since Jade Goody's eviction on CBB5 in January 2007 (8.8m). There's a very real possibility that next week's official rating for BFGW could beat that and become the most watched programme on C4 since the BB 2004 final (9.0m) or even beat that , we'll see...

any ideas what this could be?

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Cant be any worse than "Sing if you Can"

That said if its been bought by ITV Studios, it may end up on another channel.

It was more to do with BBC Worldwide and BBC Americas willingness to cough up for a large share of the shows cost that got the recommission nothing to do with Fan support.

Would be interesting to know if with half the costs being covered elsewhere whether it's actually more profitable for them this year despite the lower ratings.


No, they'd count as two half-viewers as ratings are averaged out, are they not.



No chance - he's already said he wants a longer run and isn't interested in producing a show which is in the shows interests at all - it's all about feeding the Daily Star and OK!

He really said that? Must have missed it. One thing's for sure - whatever show ends up being produced, some people will never be happy. I won't bother entertaining any more of this type of post are half of them are wind ups and the other half are preconceived ideas by stubborn people that will never change their views so what's the point.

We all know what happened when the hardcore fans took over Doctor Who. It went into a deep decline and ended up in the wasteland opposite Coronation St. Mind you, the last three series were complete rubbish and an insult to a show that ten years earlier had 16 million viewers.
There is always a risk with a show that once the casual viewer gives up, it becomes too inward looking and difficult for the casual fan to engage with again. BB became totally self indulgent near the end and I daresay there's a risk if it comes back, that only the hardcore will watch it.

I think Dancing on Ice being up on last year just shows how poorly it performed last year rather than how well it's rating this year - I don't think it's reaching it's potential but then the 101 commercials they shove in can't help. I can't remember The X Factor being that bad ad-wise in the autumn.

BBC1 had a very good night.

BTW, why have all the arguments about +1 started? There seemed to be no problem when Channel 4 got +1.

DOI 2011's first four weeks aren't just up on last year but up on the overnight averages for the first four weeks of the 2006, 2007 and 2009 series too. Only the 2008 series has rated better for its first four weeks in the overnights (by about 0.4m), but due to increased timeshift these days, officially this year's is DOI's second best or even best first four weeks to a series ever.

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Piers will be live once again tonight, amongst his guests former CNN heavy hitter Christiane Amanpour who is in Cairo.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0...ml?ref=twitter

On another note will be interesting to see how SSN performs with all the transfer goings on, suspect if it was still on Freeview it would be figure close to 1m.

I don't think ITV1 has much to worry about with DOI. 7-8 million is still good in such a competitive market and it doesn't seem to suffer from the mindless overkill in the papers that TXF has. It might trend older than TXF, but it's still a hit for ITV and I can see it running for a few more years.

Hmm, not as bad as I first thought then. Mabe Strictly doing so well and opening up the gap as it were rose my expectations to an unreasonable level.

Isn't it just the result show which is up though? Because I noticed earlier when compiling my weekly share report that the main show of DoI was down year-on-year.

Sunday 24th January 2010
8.95m

Sunday 23rd January 2011
8.79m

I almost feel embarrassed for mentioning it what with the rows on here but it would actually be slightly up with +1 included (about 0.2m in the overnights).

But yeah apart from the first week I think the performance shows have been about level with last year but the result shows seem higher.

Fair enough, sorry, completely forgot about +1.

Three of the four performance shows this series have been up year-on-year. The one you've quoted above is the only one down (or up if you include +1). Also three of the four results shows have been up y-o-y, with just the first results show of the series down.

According to stats I have, the y-o-y increases for the first 4 performance shows are +4% and first 4 results shows are +8%. So it looks like the results show have improved more than the performances.

The second Episodes on BBC HD did stunningly well.

41,000 overnights > 102,000 officials. That's a 248% increase!!

What is the record uplift? Can this be beaten?

Amazing for a show that only got 1,000 viewers on BBC HD for its first episode overnights.

I'm trying to work out what your 'obsession' is with HD overnights compared with officials. I think we get the message now that the HD figures are maybe not as accurate as they could be...

Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.35m
18:30 Today Tonight 1.37m
19:00 Home and Away 1.09m
19:30 (New Series) My Kitchen Rules 1.21m
*up 9% on series one premiere.
20:30 Bones 1.22m
21:30 Brothers & Sisters 1.01m

Nine
18:00 Nine News 1.12m
18:30 A Current Affair 1.00m
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 0.80m
19:30 Two and a Half Men 1.22m
20:00 (New) $#*! My Dad Says 1.18m
20:30 The Mentalist (R) 0.98m
21:30 CSI: Crime Scene Investigation (R) 0.76m

Ten
17:00 Ten News at Five 0.89m
18:00 6pm with George Negus 0.54m
18:30 Ten Evening News 0.49m
19:00 The 7pm Project 0.90m
19:30 Glee 1.02m
20:30 Undercover Boss 0.74m
21:30 Melbourne International Great Debate 2008 (R) 0.45m

7TWO
19:30 Heartbeat (R) 0.34m
20:30 Jonathan Creek 0.34m

Eleven
18:30 Neighbours 0.33m
20:30 Supernatural 0.21m

Shares
Seven - 26.2%
Nine - 21.9%
Ten - 15.2%
7TWO - 5.0%
Eleven - 4.0%

Demographic Info for Sunday 30th January: http://i51.tinypic.com/o8hvkl.jpg

- Top Gear top show of the day for 16-34s and 18-49s.
- Lark Rise to Candleford top show of the day for ABC1s.
- ITV1's Sunday lineup very female-skewing.
- More 18-49s watched PS I Love You on C4 than all shows on BBC1 primetime bar Countryfile.

Channel 5 are poised to formally announce the new presenting team for C5 News following the departure of Natasha Kaplinsky in December.

An embargo is in place until midnight, I will report here as soon as I hear anything.

I'm really hoping Emma Crosby has joined. Rate her very highly.

Thanks. I must say I'm pleasantly surprised at how well Countryfile does in the demos! It has its fair share of younger viewers, more than you'd expect.

I cannot contain my excitement.

I expect it will be someone who is either unemployed (like Crosby) or like has £ in their eyes (like Kaplinsky).

All the other broadcasters can offer either good ratings or a good reputation for their news, Channel 5 have neither.

Channel 5 do news????