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Old 25-07-2012, 02:23
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Hobbit trilogy one step closer?

http://thefilmstage.com/news/peter-j...or-third-film/


Seems to be stating what we already know, but the unnamed source is interesting.

This is pretty much everything that could be used from the appendices.

Appendix A
The Númenórean Kings

Númenor (A synopsis of the events of The Silmarillion, especially the Akallabêth)

The Realms in Exile (A list of the kings of Arnor and Gondor, including the Chieftain of the Dúnedain and the Ruling Stewards of Gondor.)

The Northern Line: Heirs of Isildur

The Southern Line: Heirs of Anarion

Eriador, Arnor, and the Heirs of Isildur (The history of the Northern Kingdom, through the time of Aragorn II)

Gondor and the Heirs of Anarion (The history of Gondor, including a few details of the lives of Denethor II, Boromir, and Faramir.)
The Stewards

The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen (Traces the love story of that couple, including their deaths.)

The House of Eorl (The history of Rohan.)

The Kings of the Mark

Durin's Folk (Focuses on the Dwarves of that line. Some of the events leading up to the Quest of Erebor are given. This section contains a family tree of Durin, including some details about Gimli.)
Appendix B
The Second Age:
It covers the major events of the little-documented Second Age, concerning Númenor and the Rings of Power.

The Third Age:
It covers the years 2 - 3017 of the Third Age, focusing mainly on events in Arnor, Gondor, and The Shire.

The Great Years:

It covers specific dates for particular events of the time period of the Lord of the Rings (the years 3018 and 3019); it begins with Gandalf's return to Hobbiton and concludes with the destruction of the Ring. This section also gives a brief account of the battles of the Northern campaign during the War of the Ring that are not mentioned in the main book.

The Chief Days from the Fall of Barad-dur to the End of the Third Age:
It finishes the events of The Lord of the Rings, giving specific dates up through Sam's return to Bag End.

Later Events Concerning the Members of the Fellowship of the Ring:

Chronology of the early Fourth Age (although dates are given in the Shire Reckoning), and primarily follows what happened with the hobbits. The last entry tells the final fate of Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli.
The other appendices are just full of misc info relating to family trees, languages, calendars.
Appendix C: Family Trees (Hobbits)

Appendix D: Calendars

Shire Calendar for use in all years
The Calendars

Appendix E: Writing and Spelling

 I Pronunciation of Words and Names
II Writing

Appendix F

 I The Languages and Peoples of the Third Age
II On Translation
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Old 25-07-2012, 08:01
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I'd be very wary at this stage of specifying details concerning the elements PJ may be interested in turning into film; JRRT's Son Christopher owns the rights to the Silmarillion, and so far, has publically stated that he has no intention of giving out rights for any movie based on it.

In a rare interview with Le Monde published recently, CT claims not to be impressed with PJ and the LoTR movie versions. He is also very protective of the works that he edits and maintains.

It's more likely PJ & Co will stick with material that is in the LoTR, and the Hobbit.
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Old 30-07-2012, 20:21
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Hells bells, a trilogy, is there enough material?
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Old 30-07-2012, 20:42
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Hells bells, a trilogy, is there enough material?
Three two hour films telling the story of The Hobbit plus the relevant material from the appendices.

Six hours compared to the nine plus hours of the LOTR trilogy.

They have enough material.
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Old 31-07-2012, 01:12
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The trilogy is actually confirmed. Peter Jackson posted on his Facebook page

So, without further ado and on behalf of New Line Cinema, Warner Bros. Pictures, Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Wingnut Films, and the entire cast and crew of “The Hobbit” films, I’d like to announce that two films will become three.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/peter...51114596546558
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Old 31-07-2012, 04:06
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Wow, way to milk one book for all its worth, eh?
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Old 31-07-2012, 08:07
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I'd be very wary at this stage of specifying details concerning the elements PJ may be interested in turning into film; JRRT's Son Christopher owns the rights to the Silmarillion, and so far, has publically stated that he has no intention of giving out rights for any movie based on it.

In a rare interview with Le Monde published recently, CT claims not to be impressed with PJ and the LoTR movie versions. He is also very protective of the works that he edits and maintains.

It's more likely PJ & Co will stick with material that is in the LoTR, and the Hobbit.
Filming "The Silmarillion" would be a heroic task. Some elements from it, such as the story of Beren and Luthien, or the Children of Hurin, might be possible, although the latter is pretty bleak.
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Old 31-07-2012, 08:16
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Wow, way to milk one book and large amounts of supplementary material from other books for all its worth, eh?
Fixed that for you.
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Old 31-07-2012, 10:32
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It didn't need it So, I wonder how long it'll be before remakes of the first three movies are announced, with each one being split into 2 or 3 films??? Clearly they missed a trick there.
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Old 31-07-2012, 11:00
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Fixed that for you.
Agreed,between The Hobbit and the Appendices of Lord Of The Rings,there is easily enough material to span the gap between The Events of the Hobbit and the opening of LOTR(if thats his plan,essentially turning the series into one large film)
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Old 31-07-2012, 12:33
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When will these three films be released? One a year, like TLotR?
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Old 31-07-2012, 13:08
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Has Peter Jackson actually filmed "The Hobbit" or has he written his own three volume prequel to the Lord of the Rings? I love Tolkein's version of the Hobbit - with it's childish innocence, silly songs and goblins. None of that would survive a rewrite into the Lord of the Rings. The Ring is a throwaway, invisibility plot device in the Hobbit not the great, addictive harbinger of doom of the LOTR.
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Old 31-07-2012, 15:36
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When will these three films be released? One a year, like TLotR?
Considering part one is this year and part two next year, i'd say it stands to reason that part three will follow the year after.
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Old 31-07-2012, 15:45
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I cannot wait for The Hobbit. I am so excited.

But... this third film announcement is worrying. I think there will be a lot to nitpick about in these movies.

I love PJ, he is the man, but with this, and the fact he jumped on the 3D bandwagon screams "cash in" to me.

I'm excited, but also ready for little disappointments here and there.
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Old 31-07-2012, 15:47
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I cannot wait for The Hobbit. I am so excited.

But... this third film announcement is worrying. I think there will be a lot to nitpick about in these movies.

I love PJ, he is the man, but with this, and the fact he jumped on the 3D bandwagon screams "cash in" to me.

I'm excited, but also ready for little disappointments here and there.
3D is only a Bandwagon to people who don't care for it,i personally cant wait to see these films in 48fps 3D

Im suspecting hes realised that their is a lot of stuff in the appendices that will allow them to complete Bilbo's story through to LOTR allowing them to bridge the two trilogies together into The Middle Earth Saga
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Old 31-07-2012, 15:55
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I was talking to the guy in the odeon last week while waiting for DKR screen to open. We spoke about 3D. He claims that people are now starting to get fed up with it. More people asking for 2D since AA came out.

I've never cared for it cos i was born with a dodgy right eye and it just doesn't work for me. But most people i know complain that it gives them a sore head.

It's just a fad. But there are people that enjoy it like yourself that will keep the money coming in for them. For now at least.

Wow sorry, that was way off topic.

Hobbits, dwarves, Gollum, yay!
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Old 31-07-2012, 18:29
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Considering part one is this year and part two next year, i'd say it stands to reason that part three will follow the year after.
The third film will be released in Summer 2014.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/201...irmed-for.html

Also, the following titles have been recently registered:
The Desolation of Smaug

The Battle of Five Armies

The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug

The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies

The Hobbit: Riddles in the Dark
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/the-...art-3-revealed

http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2012...es/#more-60231


The Desolation of Smaug wouldn't really be suitable as a lot of the general public would have difficulty in pronouncing Smaug's name.*

* Pronounced: Smowg, sm- ow-g.

Inspired by an old Norse form; smjúga.
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Old 31-07-2012, 22:03
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I think there will be a lot to nitpick about in these movies.
I was thinking the opposite: that because the supplementary material is so sketchy, it will be harder to complain when Jackson makes things up. We can be fairly sure that if the warg had happened, it would be in the book, but the attack on Dol Guldur isn't described in anything like the same detail as the journey to Helms Deep.
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Old 31-07-2012, 22:04
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why is peter jackson releaseing the hobbit part 3 in summer 2014 instead of december 2014 as he is releasing the hobbit parts 1and2 in decmber and releeased all the lotr films in december
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Old 31-07-2012, 22:17
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why is peter jackson releaseing the hobbit part 3 in summer 2014 instead of december 2014 as he is releasing the hobbit parts 1and2 in decmber and releeased all the lotr films in december
starts humming "it's all about the benjamins"
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:10
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what?
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:27
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hes saying its all about the money
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Old 16-08-2012, 01:08
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Recent character leak via the miniature model makers:
Dwarves: Kili & Fili & Longbeard Archers
Dwarves: Bombur with Kettle
Dwarves: Drogo Baggins & The Tavern Maid
Dwarves: Dáin & Iron Hill Berserkers
Dwarves: King Thráin & Longbeard Vanguard
Dwarves: Young Thorin & Longbeard Mattockguard
Dwarves: King Thrór
Dwarves: Dragon Mithril Company of Dwarves
Dwarves: Dáin Ironfoot & Iron Hill Boar Riders
Dwarves: Dís, Mother of Kili and Fili
Dwarves: Gimli (Stubble)
Dwarves: Samwise Gamgee (Red Book)

Wargs: Dire Warg
Wargs: Grinnah & Mirkwood Werewolves
Wargs: Feral Wolf Pack
Wargs: The Werebeast
Wargs: Lagdush & Orc Wolfcloak Warriors
Wargs: Narzug & Orc Warg-Riders
Wargs: Dol Guldur Orc Overlords
Wargs: Orc Chieftain on Warg
Wargs: Orc Wolfbone Shaman

Dol Guldur: Leaping Spiders / Shiverfang Spiders
Dol Guldur: Spiderlings
Dol Guldur: The Willowhags
Dol Guldur: Bloodwraiths
Dol Guldur: Gwethil
Dol Guldur: The Necromancer / Flesh Avatar
Dol Guldur: Narzug & Orc Summoner Coven
Dol Guldur: Tomb Wights
Dol Guldur: Mounted Tomb Wights
Dol Guldur: Saruman & The Ringwraiths
Dol Guldur: Vampire Bat Swarms

White Council: Mounted Rivendell Nobles
White Council: Lindir the Harper
White Council: Arwen & Estel
White Council: Galadriel (Barrel)
White Council: Radagast with Roäc & Swoop
White Council: Galadriel (Water Steed)
White Council: The War Council
White Council: Galadriel & Lórien Drumhooves
White Council: Chief Aravir & Dúnedain Rangers
White Council: Dúnedain Runecaster
White Council: Elrond & Rivendell Spearguard
White Council: Elros & Rivendell Outriders
White Council: Radagast's Chariot / Spellfire Cart
White Council: Cirdan the Shipwright

Mountain Orcs: Azog & Orc Needlers
Mountain Orcs: Azog (Wounded)
Mountain Orcs: Bolg & Great Goblin Bodyguard
Mountain Orcs: Armoured Hill-Trolls / Frenzied Trolls
Mountain Orcs: Orc Stone Thrower

Men of Esgaroth: King Girion
Men of Esgaroth: Fram the Watchman
Men of Esgaroth: The Master of Lake-Town
Men of Esgaroth: Bard & Greystreak Bowmen
Men of Esgaroth: Bain & Quickstrings Gang / Trout Guild Militia
Men of Esgaroth: Alfrid & Loyal Town Guard
Men of Esgaroth: Garf & Footsoldiers of the Dale

Grey Mountain Dragons: Fire-wyrms
Grey Mountain Dragons: Braga & Goldscale Worshippers
Grey Mountain Dragons: Venomblade Assassin
Grey Mountain Dragons: Goldscale Priest
Grey Mountain Dragons: Bofur on Cold-Drake
Grey Mountain Dragons: Dragon Thrall
Grey Mountain Dragons: Money Bags & Hired Knives
Grey Mountain Dragons: Fell Hatchlings

Beornings: Woodmen Healer
Beornings: Fair Daughter
Beornings: Meneldor & Swiftbeak Flock
Beornings: Gorm & Woodmen Axethrowers / Skin-Changers
Beornings: Whisperbark / Gnarlfir
Beornings: Black Bear Pack
Beornings: Enraged Beorn
Beornings: Grimbeorn (Greataxe)

Silvan Elves: Legolas & Mirkwood Fire Archers
Silvan Elves: Mirkwood Warhost
Silvan Elves: King Thranduil (Battle Garb)
Silvan Elves: Tauriel (Mounted)
Silvan Elves: Castellan Amroth

Adventure: Gandalf's Quest
Adventure: The Battle at the East Gate
Adventure: The Fall of Dale
Adventure: The Belltower
Adventure: A Thief in the Night
Adventure: The Clearing of Foul Roots
Adventure: Assault on the Barrows
Adventure: Clash of the Beasts
Adventure: The Last Stand
Adventure: The Raven Hill
Adventure: Thorin's Folly
Adventure: The Battle of Five Armies
Adventure: Breaking the Siege
Adventure: Revenge of the Goblin King
Adventure: Blacksoil Slope
Adventure: The Final Onslaught
Adventure: The Clouds Burst
Adventure: The Ritual
Adventure: The Haunted Tombs
Adventure: The Blight Breach
Adventure: Gollum's Escape

Frodo with Red Book
Smaug the Golden
Gandalf (Dual Sword)
Turin, The Dragonslayer
Not all of these will make it into the trilogy, but many of them will.
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Old 16-08-2012, 16:43
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Recent character leak via the miniature model makers:


Not all of these will make it into the trilogy, but many of them will.
I hope not. Drogo Baggins and the Tavern Maid! Whatever would the Sackville Bagginses think of that?
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Old 20-08-2012, 12:25
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Recording sessions for The Hobbit project start today.

http://www.musicoflotr.com/2012/08/c...#disqus_thread

Looking forward to Howard Shore's new compositions.
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