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Old 19-01-2011, 10:11
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I find they have their uses

I upload old adverts and things up to YouTube and my sources for material are VHS and Betamax tapes
I don't even have that kind of stuff...

I have been taping since the early 80's, but I always edited the adverts out.

Bugger.
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Old 19-01-2011, 20:32
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Wasn't it too late as well? D-VHS, ISTR reading, was launched in 2004, by which time DVD was obviously well on its way to replacing VHS.
D-VHS was introduced in 1998.
I had my first dvd player in 1998 and it was clear that DVD was going to replace VHS even then.
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Old 19-01-2011, 21:54
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I don't even have that kind of stuff...

I have been taping since the early 80's, but I always edited the adverts out.

Bugger.
I have some early-to-mid-80's American tv programmes transferred to DVD including American adverts. Annoying when you are watching the programme but fascinating!
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Old 19-01-2011, 22:42
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It did absolutely nothing - too expensive, too complicated.

The whole point of DVD was the 'V', Versatile - a common format across TV and computers, for data, video and audio was always going to be a winner.
That's what I like about it, it's great to be able to watch DVDs on your laptop
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Old 20-01-2011, 15:59
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That's what I like about it, it's great to be able to watch DVDs on your laptop
It's the random-access part I like. Being able to choose just the right video clip or programme, rather then winding through 2 or 3 hours of tape.

I always chapter-ise my DVDs when I author them
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Old 20-01-2011, 22:35
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It's the random-access part I like. Being able to choose just the right video clip or programme, rather then winding through 2 or 3 hours of tape.

I always chapter-ise my DVDs when I author them
That's useful, particularly in movies where you might just want to watch one scene.
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Old 21-01-2011, 06:01
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That's useful, particularly in movies where you might just want to watch one scene.
Oh I don't transfer movies, I just replace them on DVD. I transfer stuff like TV appearances, music clips and the like.
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Old 21-01-2011, 12:00
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Oh I don't transfer movies, I just replace them on DVD. I transfer stuff like TV appearances, music clips and the like.
Is transferring stuff from video to DVD a complex process? I was thinking of doing it.
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Old 21-01-2011, 12:07
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Is transferring stuff from video to DVD a complex process? I was thinking of doing it.
You need some way of capturing the video and digitising it and compressing it using mpeg2. The cheapest but not the best quality is to buy one of the all in one USB capture devices.

Example

http://easycap.co.uk/
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Old 21-01-2011, 12:36
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You need some way of capturing the video and digitising it and compressing it using mpeg2. The cheapest but not the best quality is to buy one of the all in one USB capture devices.

Example

http://easycap.co.uk/
Oooh noooo... avoid Easycap... DRAEDFUL piece of rubbish.

Get something with decent support and quality, like from Hauppauge or Pinnacle.
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Old 21-01-2011, 12:42
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Oooh noooo... avoid Easycap... DRAEDFUL piece of rubbish.

Get something with decent support and quality, like from Hauppauge or Pinnacle.

Not recommending any of these (it was just an example), the best solution is a DV converter from Canopus or a quality DV camcorder with AV in. Capture using DV compression (needs about 4GB for 20 mins), then mpeg compression in other than real time using vbr to keep the file sizes small.
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Old 21-01-2011, 12:51
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Not recommending any of these (it was just an example), the best solution is a DV converter from Canopus or a quality DV camcorder with AV in. Capture using DV compression (needs about 4GB for 20 mins), then mpeg compression in other than real time using vbr to keep the file sizes small.
...which is exactly what I do

I play my tapes on my Philips VCR with timebase corrector, and take an s-video cable and two phonos into my old digital camcorder on DV passthru.

I use a simple capture program called WinDV (VERY low system overhead) then drag the captured files onto a Sony Vegas timeline. I then make little edits to tidy things up and if it is music video, often replace the audio with a better source.

I always aim for 2-hours per DVD and that seems to suit the source material quality.
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Old 21-01-2011, 19:05
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You need some way of capturing the video and digitising it and compressing it using mpeg2. The cheapest but not the best quality is to buy one of the all in one USB capture devices.

Example

http://easycap.co.uk/
I might look into something like that (though maybe not that exact device). Do any of them work on a Mac as that's what I use?
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Old 21-01-2011, 21:13
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Oh I don't transfer movies, I just replace them on DVD. I transfer stuff like TV appearances, music clips and the like.
What about movies anf tv shows that are not out on dvd?

Is transferring stuff from video to DVD a complex process? I was thinking of doing it.
Easiest method is to scart connect your vcr to a dvd recorder -preferably one with a hard drive.

If , like me , you have several dozen camcorder tapes , you can copy them all to the hard drive then edit them if necessary and resequence them before burning to dvd at high speed.

If your experience of using PC's or anything that relies on software from Microsoft or Windows matches most peoples them I doubt you'll want to waste time copying tapes with one.

Maybe Mac is more reliable
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Old 21-01-2011, 22:15
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What about movies anf tv shows that are not out on dvd?



Easiest method is to scart connect your vcr to a dvd recorder -preferably one with a hard drive.

If , like me , you have several dozen camcorder tapes , you can copy them all to the hard drive then edit them if necessary and resequence them before burning to dvd at high speed.

If your experience of using PC's or anything that relies on software from Microsoft or Windows matches most peoples them I doubt you'll want to waste time copying tapes with one.

Maybe Mac is more reliable
What's that? I don't have a DVD recorder though so it would need to be connected to the computer if I was to do it.
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Old 21-01-2011, 23:14
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What's that? I don't have a DVD recorder though so it would need to be connected to the computer if I was to do it.
Shame you don't have a dvdr .
Would be far more straightforward .

You would press Play on the VCR and Record on the DVDR.
Thats it.
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Old 22-01-2011, 10:07
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What about movies anf tv shows that are not out on dvd?
All my movies are out on DVD... my collection is mostly music video and TV shows.

If your experience of using PC's or anything that relies on software from Microsoft or Windows matches most peoples them I doubt you'll want to waste time copying tapes with one.

Maybe Mac is more reliable
I'm using PC and funnily enough I don't have any problems whatsoever. Must be because I know what I'm doing.
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Old 22-01-2011, 10:14
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I might look into something like that (though maybe not that exact device). Do any of them work on a Mac as that's what I use?
Some do.

There's definitely less options for Mac though.
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Old 22-01-2011, 22:14
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Some do.

There's definitely less options for Mac though.
I'll check 'em out when I have time. It might be a good idea, particularly for old recorded TV shows I want to keep or anything that hasn't been released on DVD.
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Old 23-01-2011, 13:21
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Shame you don't have a dvdr .
Would be far more straightforward .

You would press Play on the VCR and Record on the DVDR.
Thats it.
I found my Panasonic DVDR especially useful as it could record to reusable DVD RAM discs.

These then went into the PC for re-authoring and finally burning to DVD-R.

I had two machines (E50 and E60) and both died prematurely.
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Old 23-01-2011, 14:13
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Shame you don't have a dvdr .
Would be far more straightforward .

You would press Play on the VCR and Record on the DVDR.
Thats it.
This is how I copy my VHS videos on to DVD-R discs.

I use a Pioneer DVR 530H which has a 160GB Hard drive and a DVD-R drive.

I also have 2 VHS video recorders one is a Sony which Iuse for rewinding and fast fawareding and a Panasonic which I use for playing the Videos when they are being recorded on to the Hard drive.

Here is how I go about copying VHS videos to DVD.

First I connect the Sony VHS video recorder and put a scart that has a red, yellow and white input on one end in to one of the scart inputs on the Sony video recorder then I get an AV cable that has the red, yellow and white connetion on it in to the front red, yellow and white input on the Pioneer DVD recorder.

I then find the correct AV input on the DVD recorder. I then put a VHS video that I want to copy in to the Sony VHS recorder and then find the programme that I want to copy or jut rewined the VHS video to the beginning.

Then I eject the VHS Video and diconnect the Sony VHS video recorder from the mains and and that the scart out of the Sony VHS Video recorder.

I then get out the Panasonic VHS video recorder and put the scart in to one of the scart sockets on the back of the Panasonic VHS video recorder and plug it in to the mains.

Then I put the VHS video in to the Panasonic VHS video recorder and press play on the Panasonic VHS Video recorder and then recored on the Pioneer HDD/DVD recorder.

Once the programme has finished I will press stop on the Pioneer HDD/DVD recorder and eject the video and turn off the video recorder.

I will then edit the programme and take out the adverts if there are any and then will copy the programme from the hard drive on to a DVD-R disc or if the programme is longer than 2 hours then I will split the programme on to more than one DVD-R disc.

Then I will use a CD/DVD pen to writte what is on the disc and then I will put the disc away in my folder.
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Old 23-01-2011, 20:31
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VHS = WVC (worldwide video communication). VHS is great in that I can share my films with anybody without asking what sort of equipment they have. No need to check if they have DVD or can they play it back - VHS is universal. I lend may tapes to friends and VHS just does what it has always done - given easy and reliable entertainment. The passage of time has not dulled that.

I use VHS and the popular Betamax format too and if I went without either I would have missed so many wonderful films it would be sad to think about. I don't have a panel type TV.
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Old 23-01-2011, 20:55
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I found my Panasonic DVDR especially useful as it could record to reusable DVD RAM discs.
Are DVD-RAM discs still around? I think they were a bit of a rarity and not many computer DVD drives or DVD players supported them.
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Old 23-01-2011, 21:07
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This is how I copy my VHS videos on to DVD-R discs.

I use a Pioneer DVR 530H which has a 160GB Hard drive and a DVD-R drive.

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I have a 530 too.
It also writes to DVD+R and dual layer discs of both formats
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Old 23-01-2011, 21:09
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Are DVD-RAM discs still around? I think they were a bit of a rarity and not many computer DVD drives or DVD players supported them.
They are still around but not as easy to find as other formats , basically because nobody was interested in them except Panasonic.
Some other recorders will play them even if they won't record on them .
But they are useful if you want to edit material and you don't have a hard drive recorder , although they are limited by capacity.

Of course , in theory you could use discs of any format then copy to the PC , edit on the PC and copy back.

The beauty of RAM discs is that you can perform all your editing on the disc itself without using the PC as RAM discs are basically mini hard drives with all the flexibility although you'll still need to copy to PC in order to burn back to -/+R

A hard drive recorder makes it much simpler as its not limited by the capacity of a single blank
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