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Old 22-02-2011, 02:39
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Watching the sweepstakes task - it seems the producers seem to want to show anything in the show apart from the task and boardroom which are the things that really matter.
Exactly. I really only care about the actual task and seeing how its all put together and who does well. But this series seems to devote the first half of the episode to re-caping most of the boardroom from the last episode, then returning the suvivors, showing some flirting, then alot of bitching before building up to the next task. We see about 10 minuites of the actual task and I end up confused what it is theyre actually doing as its just rushed through. Then alot more bitching, then the boardroom. Its hard to follow what theyre saying in the boardroom as we havent seen enough of the task to know who's to blame for the failure. Then the remainder of the time is showing the reward which I dont really care about - although the Snoop Dog reward was pretty cool. Whats happened to this programme? I enjoyed the last two series but really finding this hard to stick with.
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Old 22-02-2011, 03:06
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What do people think of Trump firing Derek for using the phrase "white trash"?

I thought it was a little harsh tbh. On Wikipedia it says "it may also be used self-referentially by whites to jokingly describe their origins".

Also thought Donald Trump was exceptionally rude to Randall in the boardroom, showing very little respect to anyone that doesn't have Trump as a surname.

Interesting interview with Derek in this link.

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-...arte-4668.aspx
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Old 22-02-2011, 08:31
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A better pair of eps last night I thought although the time spent on the task is still pathetic.

The only good thing about the showmance is the way TheHair takes the piss out of them. He actually seemed almost human out on the golf course even coming up with a couple of mildly amusing lines. Having said that TheHair was unfairly dismissive of Randall who was making good points every time he spoke. Tempting to read more into that.......
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Old 22-02-2011, 11:49
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Showing Derek the door sharpish was the best thing The Hair has done so far this series, but yet again he went on to fire the team member everyone else ganged up on. He should have fired Angela who was useless on the task. Enjoyed Randall in the boardroom and would rather listen to him than daddy or daughter Hair, let alone the ineffable Sean.
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Old 22-02-2011, 12:21
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Surely Heidi must win this series!!
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Old 22-02-2011, 18:59
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Showing Derek the door sharpish was the best thing The Hair has done so far this series, but yet again he went on to fire the team member everyone else ganged up on. He should have fired Angela who was useless on the task. Enjoyed Randall in the boardroom and would rather listen to him than daddy or daughter Hair, let alone the ineffable Sean.
This. I whooped! when he fired Derek as the idiot had been getting on my t!ts for a few weeks.

Trump was so rude to Randall! Totally unjustifiably as well, as he'd only been trying to get to the heart of things on his behalf - unlike his usual bunch of @rselickers.
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Old 22-02-2011, 22:57
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What do people think of Trump firing Derek for using the phrase "white trash"?

I thought it was a little harsh tbh. On Wikipedia it says "it may also be used self-referentially by whites to jokingly describe their origins".

Also thought Donald Trump was exceptionally rude to Randall in the boardroom, showing very little respect to anyone that doesn't have Trump as a surname.

Interesting interview with Derek in this link.

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-...arte-4668.aspx
i think he has to jump on it or it will look like he sanctions the term being used which is controversial.

Why he then proceeded to fire anyone else is another issue. He was told Derek was in the frame anyway and if he thought the guy was an idiot he ought to have been confident that he would have seen that when he was brought back in and would ahve fired him anyway.

He's probably had enough of Randall by that stage - they didn't seem very warm after nearly a year together....I think he turned on Randall when Randall demanded to be the only one employed in the previous final.
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Old 23-02-2011, 10:42
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i think he has to jump on it or it will look like he sanctions the term being used which is controversial.

Why he then proceeded to fire anyone else is another issue. He was told Derek was in the frame anyway and if he thought the guy was an idiot he ought to have been confident that he would have seen that when he was brought back in and would ahve fired him anyway.

He's probably had enough of Randall by that stage - they didn't seem very warm after nearly a year together....I think he turned on Randall when Randall demanded to be the only one employed in the previous final.
Yes that didn't show Randall in a very good light then. I must admit he went seriously down in my estimations with that.

I only discovered this was on last week but I've got to say I hate this series (I won't stop watching though ) The tents are stupid and I don't think having one being the eyes and ears is working out too well either.

Even The Hair seems more objectionable than usual
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Old 23-02-2011, 11:12
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If you watched the board with randall, Trump did try to say something, but Randall piped up. So Trump stayed quite, but didnt look to happy. I guess when he did speak up he had enough. By that time he did speak up, it was obvious what the story was...and who he was going to fire. Digging further wouldnt have changed anything.

As for Randal, demanding not hiring another person...not even close, Trump asked Randall, if he should also hire the women (cant remember her name). He said no, the show is called the apprentice, not the apprentices (he actually used the word "apprenti"). Trump said alright. There was no demanding...trump asked, Randall replied, Trump agreed.

I think Randall was right...there should only be one winner. Nothing was stopping Trump from hiring the woman after the program. If Sugar hired both of this years finalists, you can imagine the comments that would appear on DS.
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Old 23-02-2011, 11:57
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From what I've read, Trump was somewhat impressed by Randall's respose to not hire Rebecca, because it showed that he was very independent.
I doubt that there are problems between Trump and Randall. If that was the case, Randall wouldn't have appeared on the show in the first place.
It just looked like Trump grew tired of Randall practically taking over the whole boardroom session, including interrupting him several times.
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Old 23-02-2011, 13:18
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All the boardroom scenes this season have had the same ending so far. The losing team gangs up on one person, Trump fires him/her and says I had no choice. A couple of arselickers agree.
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Old 23-02-2011, 16:37
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What do people think of Trump firing Derek for using the phrase "white trash"?

I thought it was a little harsh tbh. On Wikipedia it says "it may also be used self-referentially by whites to jokingly describe their origins".
TBH, I also thought Derek was a bit of a t***, but I don't think he deserved that.

I was disgusted with the firing for what was an irrational response to a joking comment. It wasn't that big a deal.. Tell him he's stupid for coming out with an inane comment like that but don't fire him.

The hair went waaaay down in my estimation & it wasn't that high in the first place.

Would still do Trumpette though...
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Old 23-02-2011, 19:52
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From what I've read, Trump was somewhat impressed by Randall's respose to not hire Rebecca, because it showed that he was very independent.
I doubt that there are problems between Trump and Randall. If that was the case, Randall wouldn't have appeared on the show in the first place.
It just looked like Trump grew tired of Randall practically taking over the whole boardroom session, including interrupting him several times.
But he's had 2 previous winners on already and one of the others Kendra had already left Trump by then. If he doesn't have his last winner on it looks like he's got something against Randall. A question is if Randall gets to turn up again or if that was his one unavoidable turn showing up.
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Old 23-02-2011, 20:01
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If you watched the board with randall, Trump did try to say something, but Randall piped up. So Trump stayed quite, but didnt look to happy. I guess when he did speak up he had enough. By that time he did speak up, it was obvious what the story was...and who he was going to fire. Digging further wouldnt have changed anything.

As for Randal, demanding not hiring another person...not even close, Trump asked Randall, if he should also hire the women (cant remember her name). He said no, the show is called the apprentice, not the apprentices (he actually used the word "apprenti"). Trump said alright. There was no demanding...trump asked, Randall replied, Trump agreed.

I think Randall was right...there should only be one winner. Nothing was stopping Trump from hiring the woman after the program. If Sugar hired both of this years finalists, you can imagine the comments that would appear on DS.
If the boss asks you can I also employ her, and you say no clearly, I think you have demanded no, in so far as you can demand anything. You have put the boss in a situation where he either backs down or ignores you his winner . You have him over the barrel as he has to be seen to reject your view on air minutes after he's made you the Apprentice - and he's not going to do that. Add to that the particular circumstances hiring Randall anyway (was he really the best?) and it makes it look like you didn't want him anyway, you picked him for ulterior reasons and you both know it, and are now fighting over it.
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Old 23-02-2011, 20:17
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But he's had 2 previous winners on already and one of the others Kendra had already left Trump by then. If he doesn't have his last winner on it looks like he's got something against Randall. A question is if Randall gets to turn up again or if that was his one unavoidable turn showing up.
But Randall isn't the last winner, Sean is. Randall was pretty much 'forgotten' by now anyway, so Trump didn't have a big reason for letting him appear as a boardroom advisor. Also, two of the previous winners, Kelly and Kendra, never appeared in the boardroom.

Anyway, I think the following links show that there's no bad blood between Trump and Randall:

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/200...pprentice.html

http://www.realityblurred.com/realit...rehires_randal
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Old 23-02-2011, 21:49
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All the boardroom scenes this season have had the same ending so far. The losing team gangs up on one person, Trump fires him/her and says I had no choice. A couple of arselickers agree.
The first three episodes were different. Martin was fired by Ivanka, more or less; she didn't get on with him. Carey was fired for getting the male swimming costume wrong. Michelle resigned.
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Old 24-02-2011, 10:08
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If the boss asks you can I also employ her, and you say no clearly, I think you have demanded no, in so far as you can demand anything. You have put the boss in a situation where he either backs down or ignores you his winner . You have him over the barrel as he has to be seen to reject your view on air minutes after he's made you the Apprentice - and he's not going to do that. Add to that the particular circumstances hiring Randall anyway (was he really the best?) and it makes it look like you didn't want him anyway, you picked him for ulterior reasons and you both know it, and are now fighting over it.
Trump asked a question he answered, the boss agreed..thats not a demand to me. A demand is totally different. I agree with you Trump couldnt have really gone against him once he said no.

Randall answering a question (and giving a reason for his answer) its not even close to a demand. Randall gave his opinion no more no less.
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Old 24-02-2011, 18:34
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If the boss asks you can I also employ her, and you say no clearly, I think you have demanded no, in so far as you can demand anything. You have put the boss in a situation where he either backs down or ignores you his winner . You have him over the barrel as he has to be seen to reject your view on air minutes after he's made you the Apprentice - and he's not going to do that. Add to that the particular circumstances hiring Randall anyway (was he really the best?) and it makes it look like you didn't want him anyway, you picked him for ulterior reasons and you both know it, and are now fighting over it.
What's your point? The real issue is that Randall should never have been put in an awkward position by being asked such a stupid question: not only was he not the employer, he'd fought for and won the Apprentice, not the Apprentices. As such he was absolutely correct to say 'no'; kudos to him!
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Old 24-02-2011, 21:02
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What's your point? The real issue is that Randall should never have been put in an awkward position by being asked such a stupid question: not only was he not the employer, he'd fought for and won the Apprentice, not the Apprentices. As such he was absolutely correct to say 'no'; kudos to him!
Agree Trump sholdn't have asked it.

But it invites the answer I am the Apprentice, do what you think the company needs boss.

Randall decides to put his own status and title above Trumps wishes. Its no wonder that Trump seemed set back - though he's not going to ever say so.

The basic point is that the conversation can only go one way when Randall decides to say no. Trump can't possibly say "well thanks for your view, but I am going to appoint her anyway" live on air. It invites the headline "Trump falls out with his new Apprentice in first five minutes" - and speculation that Randall is a token winner on PC grounds and that Trump actually wanted someone else.

Randall forces the issue, shows he is concerned about his status as winner aready and dictates the outcome to Trump. Its an effective move to get what you want - but its not one most bosses will appreciate.
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Old 24-02-2011, 21:14
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Agree Trump sholdn't have asked it.

But it invites the answer I am the Apprentice, do what you think the company needs boss.

Randall decides to put his own status and title above Trumps wishes. Its no wonder that Trump seemed set back - though he's not going to ever say so.

The basic point is that the conversation can only go one way when Randall decides to say no. Trump can't possibly say "well thanks for your view, but I am going to appoint her anyway" live on air. It invites the headline "Trump falls out with his new Apprentice in first five minutes" - and speculation that Randall is a token winner on PC grounds and that Trump actually wanted someone else.

Randall forces the issue, shows he is concerned about his status as winner aready and dictates the outcome to Trump. Its an effective move to get what you want - but its not one most bosses will appreciate.
I see a mountain being made out of a mohill here. Randall did what any sane person would want to do. I really don't see what the issue is.
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Old 25-02-2011, 02:53
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I see a mountain being made out of a mohill here. Randall did what any sane person would want to do. I really don't see what the issue is.
The whole point is that he didn't do what any sane savvy person would do, or what Trump expected him to do when he asked the question. Trump wouldn't have asked the question if he thought he was going to get a no - it makes no sense at all to do so. The savvy response is to let the boss have what ever he wants and not to box the boss in - thats a fine tactic with equals and inferiors but its a fatal thing to try on the boss. Randall was too self centered and too wrapped up in the wider politics of his win to allow his new position to be blurred.
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Old 25-02-2011, 09:56
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Whan Randall did was entirely understandable. He went on the Apprentice to win, not to be considered some sort of joint winner. If The Hair also wanted to offer another candidate employment he should have done it off-camera.
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Old 25-02-2011, 12:08
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Yes, Randall did the right thing. The whole point of the show is to have one winner, and when you have worked and fought hard to achieve it over a long period of time, it's completely wrong to ask him if he wants to share the prize with the losing finalist.
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Old 25-02-2011, 13:25
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Yes, Randall did the right thing. The whole point of the show is to have one winner, and when you have worked and fought hard to achieve it over a long period of time, it's completely wrong to ask him if he wants to share the prize with the losing finalist.
Agree 100% with this post.
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Old 26-02-2011, 15:29
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The whole point is that he didn't do what any sane savvy person would do, or what Trump expected him to do when he asked the question.
The candidates tend to be competitive, they care about winning else they wouldn't be there.

I don't know what Trump was thinking or expecting. I don't have a high opinion of him, to be honest. This series he's been going on about winning and losing a lot, basically to emphasis how the losers have lost. Perhaps that's what he did with Randall. It's hard to tell when 95% of what he says in the show is rubbish.
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