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Kerry Katona...True colours
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TraceyUK
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Well she is terrified that she is not going to win - now that everyone knows she does next to no skating. T&D have got to push her- by cutting out the lifts that are what her routines amount to.

She has four people who can beat her

Sam, best skater
Laura, solid all round, maybe suspect following, but judges love
Jennifer, Hollyoaks support and good skater
Johnson, national respect for him, improving as skater

I would have put Chloe in there - but she hasn't got the fanbase”

BUT Chloes not been in a skate off yet but Laura has, so obviously people are voting more for Chloe at this stage!
slappers r us
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by deedee1962:
“Kerry is better all ready, I have liked her since she was on Im A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here, I felt so sad when she went down hill after her marriage to Brian fell apart.
I have met her and she is so down to earth and very nice, I am really glad that she is back to her old self, I have just seen her on loose women was so nice to see her back on there.”

Back to her old self??

Anything but.
HeraclitusDays
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by deedee1962:
“Kerry is better all ready, I have liked her since she was on Im A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here, I felt so sad when she went down hill after her marriage to Brian fell apart.
I have met her and she is so down to earth and very nice, I am really glad that she is back to her old self, I have just seen her on loose women was so nice to see her back on there.”

That's how it appears, that's how her PR want it to appear, but is she really?
footygirl
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“BUT Chloes not been in a skate off yet but Laura has, so obviously people are voting more for Chloe at this stage!”

Point taken on Chloe

But it was a travesty that Katona was marked higher than Johnson, Johnson actually skated solo in parts, Katona was carried around the ice. And she was overmarked by the judges who managed to keep her out of harms way by doing so. Not to mention being helped by the fanbase of Dan. It might have been a better idea, given Dan's popularity had he been put with Denise, who isn't brilliant
HeraclitusDays
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“Would you have been so bothered had she said Sam or Jen or Chloe whos are all threats to Kerry?
You seem far too obsessed with the fact that Lauras name was mentioned, WHO really cares anyway who she said you seem to be the only one obsessed by this”

I would have been equally peeved if she'd picked on the other three, because she'd be behaving like a bully picking on those who are a threat to her.
slappers r us
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by HeraclitusDays:
“That's how it appears, that's how her PR want it to appear, but is she really?”

compare her to IACGMOH days to her interview on Alan Carr

Its like to diffrent women

yes I know about her 'medication' but she is nothing like a few yrears earlier

and Im getting so sick of her spouting about her kids
HeraclitusDays
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“BUT Chloes not been in a skate off yet but Laura has, so obviously people are voting more for Chloe at this stage!”

Its hard to say as we don't know how many votes anyone got nor can we compare show 1 or 2, as the bottom 3 in show 1 may have got more votes than those in show 2 or vice versa - so Chloe might have been in the bottom 3 if she'd been in show 1. Its open to speculation at this stage.
HeraclitusDays
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“compare her to IACGMOH days to her interview on Alan Carr

Its like to diffrent women

yes I know about her 'medication' but she is nothing like a few yrears earlier

and Im getting so sick of her spouting about her kids”

All she has to do is mention the "kids" and its cue 'arghs' and *applause* all round, its a bit of cheap trick and if she really cared for the kids she wouldn't have allowed herself to become a complete mess.
TraceyUK
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by HeraclitusDays:
“I would have been equally peeved if she'd picked on the other three, because she'd be behaving like a bully picking on those who are a threat to her.”

And if she'd said Johnson?? Seems it wouldnt matter who she said youd just find a reason to have a go at her, I personally have no opinion on Kerry either way but feel people are bullying her for just for being on this show, hows that fair???
lulu g
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“Did anyone watch This Morning today?

While the paper review was on the twist was commented on, Lesley Joseph and Andrew(Forgotten his second name) both said there would be a few who voted the best out if they were in the bottom two ad get rid of the competition
Phil commented there were those who said they wouldnt know whether to vote fo keep the best skater or their drinking buddies and bye Laura.......these comments must have come from somewhere for Phil to repeat them so IMO there is a lot of truth to his comments tweeted about KK and Denise
Lesley said that there will be a little candle of light in the back of their brains saying get rid of the best

As I say IMO getting rid of Laura has been commeted on by certain celebs and if it was somehow a joke I think it was in very bad taste

Im getting sick of the public rewarding these bad boy/girl celebs by voting for them when they start with their sob stories of how they dont drink/do drugs anymore”

By now they will all have spoken with their PR people and will have been advised on exactly how to proceed.
footygirl
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“And if she'd said Johnson?? Seems it wouldnt matter who she said youd just find a reason to have a go at her, I personally have no opinion on Kerry either way but feel people are bullying her for just for being on this show, hows that fair???”

She wouldn't be that stupid would she - can you imagine the looks from the other celebs that she would get. He is a threat to her- can skate, improving and I would think pretty popular
slappers r us
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“Would you have been so bothered had she said Sam or Jen or Chloe whos are all threats to Kerry?
You seem far too obsessed with the fact that Lauras name was mentioned, WHO really cares anyway who she said you seem to be the only one obsessed by this”

I would be peeved if she had said ANYONES name

it smacks of planning

Kerry must think/knows she has near the top votes from the public (IMO Daniels public) and she feels safe

Laura was in the skate off so maybe in Kerrys eyes that makes Laura one of the least popular with the public therefore Laura has a bigger chance of being in the bottom two

all she has to do is hint and get a few more celebs to take the easy option by voting for someone they think is going to get the most votes from the other celebs and bobs yer uncle
deedee1962
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“Back to her old self??

Anything but.”

How the hell do you know? To my mind she is 100% better I can tell from watching her on TV now to how she was before when that Mark was pulling her down.
TraceyUK
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“Point taken on Chloe

But it was a travesty that Katona was marked higher than Johnson, Johnson actually skated solo in parts, Katona was carried around the ice. And she was overmarked by the judges who managed to keep her out of harms way by doing so. Not to mention being helped by the fanbase of Dan. It might have been a better idea, given Dan's popularity had he been put with Denise, who isn't brilliant”

This I may have agreed with on previous years BUT I know a lot of the so called "Dan Fans" are not supporting him due to this partnership people have turned on him because of this pairing.

Matt is possibly equal in popularity as Dan so this wouldnt have made a difference, and given Stuart was an unkown when partened with Coleen it didnt stop her getting further than she should of so pairing Dan with Denise would have been similar.
HeraclitusDays
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“And if she'd said Johnson?? Seems it wouldnt matter who she said youd just find a reason to have a go at her, I personally have no opinion on Kerry either way but feel people are bullying her for just for being on this show, hows that fair???”

Anyone that is a good skater, that is a threat - yes. I think that she atleast realises that JB is no threat in terms of career and that he is regarded as a hero and therefore is no-go zone.

She covets the publicity, publicity has become her career and she has opened herself up to the scruntiny of the public. If she doesn't like it she could just disappear from the public eye. She openly expects to be subject to criticism and very rarely is this criticism without basis. She wants a chance, wants a career perhaps in TV but then makes ill-judged and unprofessional comments. I think its entirely fair.
HeraclitusDays
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by deedee1962:
“How the hell do you know? To my mind she is 100% better I can tell from watching her on TV now to how she was before when that Mark was pulling her down.”

This being the key phrase. I'm not convinced.
HeraclitusDays
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“I would be peeved if she had said ANYONES name

it smacks of planning

Kerry must think/knows she has near the top votes from the public (IMO Daniels public) and she feels safe

Laura was in the skate off so maybe in Kerrys eyes that makes Laura one of the least popular with the public therefore Laura has a bigger chance of being in the bottom two

all she has to do is hint and get a few more celebs to take the easy option by voting for someone they think is going to get the most votes from the other celebs and bobs yer uncle”

It's contrived as hell. I think she was gutted that Laura got through the skate off and made it through to the final 12, she was probably convinced that she'd be in the bottom 2 at the weekend too. She was WRONG.
slappers r us
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by deedee1962:
“How the hell do you know? To my mind she is 100% better I can tell from watching her on TV now to how she was before when that Mark was pulling her down.”

I put in enough time watching her live on IAC to see she is not the same woman now

the only thing the same is that she still spouts about her kids every 10 mins
slappers r us
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by TraceyUK:
“This I may have agreed with on previous years BUT I know a lot of the so called "Dan Fans" are not supporting him due to this partnership people have turned on him because of this pairing.

Matt is possibly equal in popularity as Dan so this wouldnt have made a difference, and given Stuart was an unkown when partened with Coleen it didnt stop her getting further than she should of so pairing Dan with Denise would have been similar.”

Im suprised that Dan fans are not voting for him

They seem like very faithful fans
Mutter
25-01-2011
If KK did say that, she's shot herself in the foot.
Come Sunday, she can hardly vote Laura off, or the rumours would prove to be true.
If she refused the vote off twist, it's a pity she can't say no to CAN, her managers.
The coverage in the Mail today is nothing short of cynical manipulation by CAN. Shame too on Daniel Whiston for going along with it. Most of all, shame on the Mail for purchasing it from CAN, even though they didn't "buy it".
I don't know why I'm surprised as DW is very close to cheating IMHO, as he simply carries all of his partners around, rather than allowing them to skate, which I daresay is why he was chosen as KK's partner. ITV have to recoup their fee by keeping her in.
Wonder whether DW will be the next signing for CAN?
deedee1962
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by HeraclitusDays:
“This being the key phrase. I'm not convinced.”

Well you havn't been interested in her so you don't know any better, As someone who has watched her for 7 Years I recon I know better she looks and sounds a dam site better to me.
HeraclitusDays
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by deedee1962:
“Well you havn't been interested in her so you don't know any better, As someone who has watched her for 7 Years I recon I know better she looks and sounds a dam site better to me.”

Now you're making assumptions, I've seen various things she's done throughout her career. How do you really know if I am in a position to judge? You don't. Stop being daft.
deedee1962
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“I put in enough time watching her live on IAC to see she is not the same woman now

the only thing the same is that she still spouts about her kids every 10 mins”

She has been through a lot since then for god sake and she is older now. She said on Loose Women that excersise is helping her so much, I think she is proud of herself for getting out of the mess she was in, she didn't like being how she was, so why would she lie?
TraceyUK
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“Im suprised that Dan fans are not voting for him

They seem like very faithful fans”

Some of us are. others cant see beyond the whole Dan/Hayley non story. Been loads of comments on twitter to suggest that most of the fans will not vote for him because of Kerry. and a certain group of fans are living in the past and cant see beyond him and Hayley, not helped by the fact shes still sniffing round and manipulating Dan and still following him around like a love sick puppy, those fans seem to think they should be together for ever and ever and live happily ever after
HeraclitusDays
25-01-2011
Originally Posted by deedee1962:
“She has been through a lot since then for god sake and she is older now. She said on Loose Women that excersise is helping her so much, I think she is proud of herself for getting out of the mess she was in, she didn't like being how she was, so why would she lie?”

To maintain her image(which is unconvincing to those with discerning taste)>To maintain her audience>To sell her DVD>to make money from the stupefied masses. Celebrity is all about appearance and not substance. What she says and what she actually means/does aren't necessarily the same. People really shouldn't seek inspiration from the gutter.
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