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Old 25-01-2011, 17:11
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I'm trying to decide between a Sony BDP-S570B Blu-ray player and a PS3 for £50 more. I'm not that likely to use it for games but at least I can clear some space out and get rid of my old X box that I never use!

However Which magazine say this;

The Sony PlayStation 3 (PS3) plays games and Blu-ray discs for the same price as a normal Blu-ray DVD player. In our tests, the picture from HD discs boast good depth and detail and satisfactory motion.

But the same couldn't be said about standard definition discs. Where subtle colour and shading are required, for instance on facial skin tones, our panel spotted blocky, harsh detail. Couple that with some slight smearing and image-lag on motion sequences, and the overall effect was mildly unnatural and disappointing. Same goes for the sound – a less than satisfactory and distracting experience according to our panel.
What I don't understand is that surely both the sound and the image produced by a Blue-ray player are DIGITAL. As such the signal either is read from the disk and transmitted to the screen and amp (1,0,1,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,0 etc), or its corrupted and meaningless.

So what additional/different information is transmitted from an expensive Blue-ray player that is not from a cheap one ? And where does it come from if not in the digital signal recorded on the disk ??
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Old 25-01-2011, 17:13
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Clever interpolation of a low res. image to add pixels not discretely encoded in the data.
I had no issue playing a normal DVD on mine. No moans at all.
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Old 25-01-2011, 20:41
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Normal DVD's play excellently on mine....
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Old 25-01-2011, 21:06
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As far as I'm aware the PS3 has an excellent scaler in it, and plays DVD's just as well as the Sony BD players.

However, I'm a little confused as to why you would be planning spending £50 more on a game console you won't ever use?.

Buy the excellent 570, and use the £50 to buy some films.
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Old 25-01-2011, 21:06
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Normal DVD's play excellently on mine....
Same here.

With the right settings enabled, DVDs look fantastic on a PS3
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Old 25-01-2011, 21:17
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If you don't mind paying the £50 extra the PS3 wins hands down.
I had a PS3 , got a Bluray player then got a PS3 again as I use it for its music and photo storage.
The web browser is useful for quick access without firing up the PC and you can rent movies from the PS Store.

The only caveat is that the PS3 is not simple to add to your universal remote if you have one.
Don't even consider buying the PS3 Bluray remote.
Lots of tiny buttons and no backlight - its useless unless you sit watching movies with all the lights up.

But for £50 more the PS3 does so much more than just play Blurays and dvd's

If you have a large cd collection its worth buying just for its ability to store all those on its hard drive.
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Old 25-01-2011, 21:28
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PS3 is great for blu-rays and it also does loads of other things such as play movies from lovefilm and TV from the BBC, ITV and 4.

I wouldn't go with Which, the quality of SD is excellent on it and you can even get a TV tuner for it that turns it into a freeview+ box with a upgradable HDD.

TBH it does so many things it would be difficult to list them all...
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Old 25-01-2011, 21:32
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I'm trying to decide between a Sony BDP-S570B Blu-ray player and a PS3 for £50 more. I'm not that likely to use it for games but at least I can clear some space out and get rid of my old X box that I never use!

However Which magazine say this;



What I don't understand is that surely both the sound and the image produced by a Blue-ray player are DIGITAL. As such the signal either is read from the disk and transmitted to the screen and amp (1,0,1,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,0 etc), or its corrupted and meaningless.

So what additional/different information is transmitted from an expensive Blue-ray player that is not from a cheap one ? And where does it come from if not in the digital signal recorded on the disk ??
No brainer for me. The PS3 is actually more than £50 better than the Blu-ray disc....its a media hub, can store photos, browse the web etc and lots of other things.
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Old 25-01-2011, 21:53
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Plus, the PS3 is much more flexible. Stories about certain discs not working in certain bluray players - the PS3 regularly updates itself.

Recently one of those updates was for 3D. You can buy a 3D bluray disc and play it on a 3D TV - I don't think any of the original BR players the same age as the PS3 can do that
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Old 26-01-2011, 15:05
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Plus access to Love Film, Mubi (indie cinema) Vidzone (music videos) BBC iPlayer, ITV Player, 4OD......

Through the web browser you can also get YouTube, MSN Video Player, Blinkbox, TV Catch-up etc etc on your TV.
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Old 26-01-2011, 15:41
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The PS3 would be a much better investment for you, you can play games and it can handle DVD's and Blu-Rays just as well as any blu ray disc player you might purchase
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Old 26-01-2011, 15:48
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The only caveat is that the PS3 is not simple to add to your universal remote if you have one.
Don't even consider buying the PS3 Bluray remote.
Lots of tiny buttons and no backlight - its useless unless you sit watching movies with all the lights up.
I'm interested to know how you got a universal remote to work where the system uses bluetooth to operate from the controllers.

Also your views on the ps3 remote are the first negative ones i have heard, I for one like the remote alot and now I know the button layout find it very easy to use, in fact loads better than any other remote for other electrical items as it operates from all over the room due to bluetooth connectivity, thus removing the need to have it pointing directly at the ps3
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Old 26-01-2011, 16:03
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I'm interested to know how you got a universal remote to work where the system uses bluetooth to operate from the controllers.

Also your views on the ps3 remote are the first negative ones i have heard, I for one like the remote alot and now I know the button layout find it very easy to use, in fact loads better than any other remote for other electrical items as it operates from all over the room due to bluetooth connectivity, thus removing the need to have it pointing directly at the ps3
If it's a harmony they have an optional IR to bluetooth converter to allow control of wii's and PS3's
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Old 26-01-2011, 16:20
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For me the PS3 wins hands down too.

Excellent media streamer if you download movies or have home movies on your PC. Handles the majority of formats, and those it doesn't you can have it handle through the use of TVersity which will transcode formats from your PC that your PS3 doesn't handle, converting them on the fly to a format the PS3 can play. Also streams music and photos from your PC to your TV.

Excellent DVD player, gives a far better picture than any of my other DVD players. I have Pioneer, Toshiba and Liteon DVD player/recorders and the PS3 does improve slightly on all of them. The ONLY downside is that the PS3 cannot be made multiregion.

Excellent BluRay player and constantly updated to handle any new BluRay discs and tweaks such as 3D.

It's gaming capabilities are well documented.

Provided your broadband is decent it streams iPlayer, 4Od and ITV/STV Players very well and the quality is pretty good for catch up services.

You can access Mubi and Lovefilm accounts directly if you have accounts with them. Other free and pay per view services can be accessed via the built in web browser, I watch quite a lot of the Blinkbox free movies as well as many of the free movies from Youtube via the PS3.

For a web browser via the TV the PS3 does a very good job, and accepts a standard USB keyboard to make things even easier. It also handles flash so pretty much all of the other online video sites work.

Harmony remote owners can buy an add on allowing them to use their Harmony remote to control the PS3. OneForAll owners can also do the same as OneForAll now have a PS3 adapter available too.

The official Sony PS3 BluRay remote I find is excellent. Well made and looks good. Some buttons are on the small side, and it isn't back lit but you soon get used to the layout and the main transport buttons are big enough to find in the dark I find.

If you wish you can also store music, movies and photos directly on the PS3's hard disc.

VidZone is a pretty good music video service, and it is free. Great for parties, setup a long playlist beforehand and leave it to stream and play while you get drunk . They also sometimes have free and pay per view concerts etc. available. The range of genres and artists available is now very good, and is improving all the time.

Sony also have their own pay per view movie services, both via Qriocity and directly from the Playstation store.

It looks good too.
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Old 26-01-2011, 16:26
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If it's a harmony they have an optional IR to bluetooth converter to allow control of wii's and PS3's
I have the "Logitech Harmony Adapter for PLAYSTATION 3" - a no brainer to set up too.
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Old 26-01-2011, 16:40
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If it's a harmony they have an optional IR to bluetooth converter to allow control of wii's and PS3's
Thanks that something new I've learned today

Blooming expensive though
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Old 26-01-2011, 16:41
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I bought the PS3 originally instead of a stand alone. The picture quality was excellent both for bluray and upscaled DVD. I found the boot up time is fast compared to some stand alones. The bloody thing broken down though! I've read these slim PS3s are much more reliable. But I don't see the point if you're not going to play the games. A lot of the blu-ray players come with internet access to youtube etc now as well.
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Old 26-01-2011, 19:18
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Mine gets used alot as an internet radio, streaming via PS3 media server..
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Old 26-01-2011, 20:31
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I'm interested to know how you got a universal remote to work where the system uses bluetooth to operate from the controllers.

Also your views on the ps3 remote are the first negative ones i have heard, I for one like the remote alot and now I know the button layout find it very easy to use, in fact loads better than any other remote for other electrical items as it operates from all over the room due to bluetooth connectivity, thus removing the need to have it pointing directly at the ps3
For £5 you can buy a small USB device that fits in one of the PS3 sockets.
The remote supplied with it is rubbish , but the idea is that you store the IR codes into your universal remote then never touch the other one again but the USB dongle then enables your IR remote to work for movie viewing.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logic3-PLAYS...6074094&sr=8-3

I too found the PS3 Bluray remote a waste of time.
If you view films in anything less than a brightly lit environment you can't even see the buttons that need to be used.
In this day and age a remote without backlighting is extremely primitive if you have a proper home cinema setup
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Old 26-01-2011, 20:32
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If it's a harmony they have an optional IR to bluetooth converter to allow control of wii's and PS3's
Unfortunately the Harmony PS3 adapter is about £40.
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Old 26-01-2011, 22:09
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For £5 you can buy a small USB device that fits in one of the PS3 sockets.
The remote supplied with it is rubbish , but the idea is that you store the IR codes into your universal remote then never touch the other one again but the USB dongle then enables your IR remote to work for movie viewing.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Logic3-PLAYS...6074094&sr=8-3

I too found the PS3 Bluray remote a waste of time.
If you view films in anything less than a brightly lit environment you can't even see the buttons that need to be used.
In this day and age a remote without backlighting is extremely primitive if you have a proper home cinema setup
I usually watch the film from start to finish in one go. For the odd time I need to pause it, the button isn't hard to find...
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Old 26-01-2011, 22:21
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How about getting one of those little keyring torches so you can see the buttons?
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Old 26-01-2011, 22:25
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I usually watch the film from start to finish in one go. For the odd time I need to pause it, the button isn't hard to find...
That's ok for you then.
But the £5 dongle solves all the universal remote problems for a third of the price and more efficiently .

For what use it is , Bluetooth users may as well stick with the controller.
The PS3 remote has loads of buttons on it and if you only need pause then not much point in getting it anyway
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Old 27-01-2011, 00:08
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The Sony PlayStation 3 (PS3) plays games and Blu-ray discs for the same price as a normal Blu-ray DVD player
That's great news. Can someone give me a link as to where I can buy a PS3 for £99?
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Old 27-01-2011, 01:06
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The player has to scale a 0.3megapixel image to 2megapixels. 5-6x resolution difference, so it is just a matter of how well it can make garbage look not so bad

But yes, there is little if any difference when playing actual bluray.

In theory the ps3 is faster loading some blurays.
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