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TNA Wrestling on Challenge TV
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ags_rule
05-02-2012
Good show overall but Hogan's turn was totally botched. Awful camera work, didn't build suspense before the music hit, pissed off the crowd with the earlier Bischoff/Garrett segment, Hogan's choice of clothing...

Regardless of all the problems with WWE, they get the basics such as that right - add that to their multi-million dollar production values, and you can see why it is so difficult for TNA to compete on the same level.

Nevertheless, Wembley crowd made a massive difference.
daclick
06-02-2012
Havent watched it all yet and they should have had the proper stage however i thought it was ace, they really need to get out of the impact zone more often to be honest
daniel9624
06-02-2012
What a differnece it makes to have a decent sized paying audience!
At times the prodution was shocking! But the show felt so much bigger. Hogan did what Hogan does, and not sure what you mean by "turn" Ags? Everyone knew it was Hogan, it didn't need suspense, 10 thousand people shouting Hogan kind of gave it away, not to mention him telling everyone on Losse Women that he was appearing!
Liked Samoan Magnus beating the two great lumps and enjoyed Storm vs Roode, not so keen on the second match. Only big issue is really the production, but you can't have everything.
ags_rule
06-02-2012
Originally Posted by daniel9624:
“What a differnece it makes to have a decent sized paying audience!
At times the prodution was shocking! But the show felt so much bigger. Hogan did what Hogan does, and not sure what you mean by "turn" Ags? Everyone knew it was Hogan, it didn't need suspense, 10 thousand people shouting Hogan kind of gave it away, not to mention him telling everyone on Losse Women that he was appearing!
Liked Samoan Magnus beating the two great lumps and enjoyed Storm vs Roode, not so keen on the second match. Only big issue is really the production, but you can't have everything.”

Oh I knew everyone knew it was Hogan, that's why I felt they killed it a little by teasing his return early in the show with the Garrett/Eric segment, before we're told "He'll be here...LATER!" At that point the crowd were screaming for Hogan, the reception would have been even better if he had came out then, with a few seconds pause for the anticipation to build up.

Just little minor things like that let TNA down, because they're things that WWE do consistently well.

Can't believe Hogan's return is being wasted on Garrett though, utterly useless. None of the charisma of Shane O'Mac.
DejaVoodoo
06-02-2012
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“Oh I knew everyone knew it was Hogan, that's why I felt they killed it a little by teasing his return early in the show with the Garrett/Eric segment, before we're told "He'll be here...LATER!" At that point the crowd were screaming for Hogan, the reception would have been even better if he had came out then, with a few seconds pause for the anticipation to build up.

Just little minor things like that let TNA down, because they're things that WWE do consistently well.

Can't believe Hogan's return is being wasted on Garrett though, utterly useless. None of the charisma of Shane O'Mac.”

Giving the leverage Hogan and Bischoff have, I think it is solely their decision to do everything they can to help Garrett.

I do agree that Hogan coming out late in the show was wasted somewhat, especially considering Hogan being all over UK tv and radio the last few days before the show.

I do think that the show was pretty good. Everything largely was done to put focus on title matches coming up. Things like the Buckingham brawl rules were a bit stupid, especially with Magnus guaranteed to be treated as a babyface in London.

Also Storm and Roode having their match on free tv rather than PPV seems a bit stupid as well.

Match content was largely very good.
ags_rule
06-02-2012
Storm and Roode's match was great. I think the fact it had a screwjob ending means they didn't give away the payoff, which no doubt we'll see at a future PPV. Must say I'm absolutely loving Roode's work at the minute - great look, great on the mic, great in the ring. More than anything else, his selling his top class, like all the best heels.

I think there was more wrestling than usual due to the fact not everyone who bought a ticket for Wembley did so thinking it was a TV taping, so they had to satisfy both sides of the coin.

Felt so bad for Mark Haskins, home country boy having to listen to Wembley chanting for Austin Aries. I think he has potential but that's two big opportunities he's been given now - against Doug Williams at Destination X and against the X-Division champion on the biggest Impact show ever - and he's screwed both of them up.
DejaVoodoo
06-02-2012
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“Storm and Roode's match was great. I think the fact it had a screwjob ending means they didn't give away the payoff, which no doubt we'll see at a future PPV. Must say I'm absolutely loving Roode's work at the minute - great look, great on the mic, great in the ring. More than anything else, his selling his top class, like all the best heels.

I think there was more wrestling than usual due to the fact not everyone who bought a ticket for Wembley did so thinking it was a TV taping, so they had to satisfy both sides of the coin.

Felt so bad for Mark Haskins, home country boy having to listen to Wembley chanting for Austin Aries. I think he has potential but that's two big opportunities he's been given now - against Doug Williams at Destination X and against the X-Division champion on the biggest Impact show ever - and he's screwed both of them up.”

His bump was very Lesnar-esque.
hemightydave
07-02-2012
I know Haskins had the hometown advantagge but he was always going to struggle given that Aries is excellent both in ring and on the mic - that combined with the botch at Destination X that didn't do him any favours. Not to take anything away from him, It's very easy for us to judge from the comfort of our own homes - I'm sure not many of us on the forum can execute a shooting star!

I also think the UK crowd is a bit less xenophobic than the US, good old Jim Duggan and his USA chant now seems to be applied in all cases when there is a foreigner in the ring even if they are not being pitched as an eeeevil heel. I would say that most of the cheering for Magnus & Joe was thanks to Joe (again, not to run down the Mag daddy I think he has a lot of potential but it was definately Joe people were happy to see)
Dave-H
09-02-2012
Wasn't at the Wembley show, but watched it on Challenge.
Can anyone explain why they put a cutaway caption over the top of the three count at the end of the Tara/Kim match?
It was there on both the Sunday and Tuesday night screenings, so I assume it wasn't a Challenge TV transmission problem.
Did something go wrong there which had to be obscured? If that's the case then surely a crowd shot would have looked a bit more elegant, but surely you don't obscure the winning moment in a match anyway unless there's a really good reason!
ags_rule
10-02-2012
Originally Posted by Dave-H:
“Wasn't at the Wembley show, but watched it on Challenge.
Can anyone explain why they put a cutaway caption over the top of the three count at the end of the Tara/Kim match?
It was there on both the Sunday and Tuesday night screenings, so I assume it wasn't a Challenge TV transmission problem.
Did something go wrong there which had to be obscured? If that's the case then surely a crowd shot would have looked a bit more elegant, but surely you don't obscure the winning moment in a match anyway unless there's a really good reason!
”

I actually missed that match, but can only assume that the Knockout's revealed more than they were supposed to thanks to the camera angle.
SteelEdge
10-02-2012
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“I actually missed that match, but can only assume that the Knockout's revealed more than they were supposed to thanks to the camera angle.”

Yeah, I was at Wembley and didn't notice any botches during the finish to the Knockouts match, so I too was a bit puzzled at why it was edited like that.
ogryn
11-02-2012
Can't believe US ratings dropped this week. The show looked so much better.
ags_rule
11-02-2012
Originally Posted by ogryn:
“Can't believe US ratings dropped this week. The show looked so much better.”

I can only presume that, adversely, Americans don't like watching shows from the UK. Doesn't RAW's rating usually drop when they broadcast from the UK?
Georged123
12-02-2012
Originally Posted by ogryn:
“Can't believe US ratings dropped this week. The show looked so much better.”

Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“I can only presume that, adversely, Americans don't like watching shows from the UK. Doesn't RAW's rating usually drop when they broadcast from the UK?”

There is no logic when looking at the ratings, the numbers go up and down for no obvious reason. The only apparent trends are shows after a PPV usually do better and a segment with the Knockouts is often the highest rated.
DejaVoodoo
12-02-2012
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“I can only presume that, adversely, Americans don't like watching shows from the UK. Doesn't RAW's rating usually drop when they broadcast from the UK?”

Nah, not really. Most people don't know when the show is taped in the UK.

As it relates to TNA, people just aren't that bothered about the product. Doing a couple of shows in a big arena mean little apart from making the product look more major league. TNA would need to do it every week for it to change some of the perception about TNA.
Grouty
12-02-2012
Anybody else think Alex Shelley is the spitting double of Ben Foster (West Brom keeper).
TEOL
12-02-2012
Originally Posted by daniel9624:
“What a differnece it makes to have a decent sized paying audience!
At times the prodution was shocking! But the show felt so much bigger. Hogan did what Hogan does, and not sure what you mean by "turn" Ags? Everyone knew it was Hogan, it didn't need suspense, 10 thousand people shouting Hogan kind of gave it away, not to mention him telling everyone on Losse Women that he was appearing!
Liked Samoan Magnus beating the two great lumps and enjoyed Storm vs Roode, not so keen on the second match. Only big issue is really the production, but you can't have everything.”

TNA & ROH I find have very good Production values just not on the par of the big cheeses WWE & NJPW.

If you watch some of the British stuff on My Channel you'll spot that although British content is great now it's back on TV.

My Channel is becoming the new TWC for your all new British fix and it's free to air.

All of the good old stuff like World of Sport has gone to what looks like My's sister channel in picture and sound quality Men & Movies.

Okay. It's gone into random British wrestling production values rambling rather than TNA now so I'll stop but it's relating to the production quality of TNA being good so it's still relating to the topic.
mercutio_uk
12-02-2012
Originally Posted by TEOL:
“My Channel is becoming the new TWC for your all new British fix and it's free to air.”

What channel as I can't find it on freeview.

re: Mark Haskins I saw him wrestler in Ipswich on Friday. The guy is a great talent and should really be given a chance by one of the big two promotions.
JCR
12-02-2012
Ding dong, the witch is dead!
DejaVoodoo
12-02-2012
According to PWI, Russo is done with TNA creative.
jamespondo
12-02-2012
Always thought he was TNA for life. Thought he'd eventually (which some of begged for) move away from creative and into a Kevin Dunn type role, but I guess Bischoff has taken that job.
DejaVoodoo
12-02-2012
Well its Bischoff and Bruce Pritchard with Lagana working underneath.
stillgotabox
13-02-2012
Quote:
“TNA has reportedly replaced Vince Russo as the lead writer of the Impact Wrestling product, according to WrestleZone.com. Former WWE creative team member Dave Lagana has taken over Russo's duties on the creative team.

Powell's POV: At this point, I don't believe the "head of creative" title used in the story is accurate given that Bruce Prichard was promoted to the position of senior vice president of programming and talent relations back in October 2011, and Russo had been reporting to him.

Russo is not backstage at the Against All Odds pay-per-view in Orlando, whereas Lagana is at the show, according to a backstage source. Lagana was hired by TNA late last year to serve in a similar capacity on the Ring Ka King creative staff. He worked for WWE and Ring of Honor in the past. No formal announcement has been made to the talent and crew at the Against All Odds pay-per-view as of this update.

Lagana seemed to acknowledge that something was up earlier today when he tweeted, "And we are off and running" and then "The calm before the storm." He had been adamant since he joined the company that he was merely hired to work on the Ring Ka King project and was not involved on the Impact Wrestling side of things.”

http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/p...10023359.shtml

Quote:
“Multiple TNA sources are now disputing a WrestleZone.com report that Vince Russo has been replaced by Dave Lagana on the TNA creative team. Lagana is at the TNA Against All Odds pay-per-view in Orlando, but sources say he's merely helping out. No announcement of any kind has been made to the crew and talent regarding Russo.

Powell's POV: Bruce Prichard, the senior vice president of programming and talent relations, executive producer Eric Bischoff, and TNA creative team member Matt Conway are all at the show in Orlando. At this point, no one from the company has confirmed the original report beyond acknowledging that Vince Russo is not at the show, as I reported earlier today. The reason for Russo's absence is unknown at this time.”

http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/p...10023360.shtml

The Pro Wrestling state that their website has verified wrestling news so I checked www.pwrshow.com after I read the initial report but nothing was posted.
JCR
13-02-2012
I don't imagine they'll show it on challenge, Jesse Sorensen was apparently seriously hurt on the pay per view. Not good.
Mickey_T
13-02-2012
Good to see a better variety of talent on Impact this week. Loved the way the UK crowd just booed Crimson and Morgan

Decent promo from Magnus too and all in all a pretty good show.
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