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Old 13-02-2012, 12:15
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What channel are the UK based wrestling shows on as I can't find it on freeview.
219 I think and it's SKY & possibly Freesat too only and when you watch it you'll see why TNA has good production.

I don't imagine they'll show it on challenge, Jesse Sorensen was apparently seriously hurt on the pay per view. Not good.
It will be shown. They shown Jeff Hardy wrestling after smoking crack in the toilets last year before he had his long rehab break.
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Old 13-02-2012, 13:07
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Magnus seemed pretty over last night. I was shocked Doug Williams didnt get much of a reaction.
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Old 13-02-2012, 13:37
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get real people,russo was never head writer,thats why impact has lacked so much excitement for years now

tna will regret not using him 100%
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Old 13-02-2012, 22:42
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Don't think this counts as a spoiler as isn't giving away any match results/story details, but at Against All Odds, Jesse Sorenson was seriously injured. Dixie Carter just tweeted that he is only just starting to regain feeling in his arms and legs, think he smashed a vertebrae.

Wishing him a speedy recovery. I won't pretend that I was his biggest fan, but he was starting to win me over with his performance in the Fatal Four Way at Genesis last month. I thought he was the stand-out competitor in that match, even upstaging Austin Aries.
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Old 13-02-2012, 22:48
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I know Haskins had the hometown advantagge but he was always going to struggle given that Aries is excellent both in ring and on the mic - that combined with the botch at Destination X that didn't do him any favours. Not to take anything away from him, It's very easy for us to judge from the comfort of our own homes - I'm sure not many of us on the forum can execute a shooting star!
I don't get it, was he supposed to land the SSP? Cos if he did wouldnt he have won the match or would AA kick out and then finish the match the way it ended?
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Old 13-02-2012, 23:05
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Yes, very sad to hear about what happened to Jesse Sorernsen. I've been increasingly impressed by him, and the other additions to the X divisions.


I see Impact is still doing well in the ratings over here. According to BARB, the 5/2 edition had 278,000 viewers, plus another 43,000 on the +1. When you add in the Tuesday repeat (probably 120,000) it is quite impressive; in the same region as Raw was drawing on Sky Sports during the Attitude era.
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Old 14-02-2012, 00:44
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waiting 'till wednesday to watch the show but jesse sorenson's injury sounds pretty bad, hope he makes a speedy recovery.
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Old 14-02-2012, 02:18
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managed to find this out without seeing any spoilers as well

Apparently, the injury occurred when Sorensen took a knee to the back of the head on a moonsault from Zema Ion.

Also, people at ringside apparently said that when he was being stretchered out, he complained of feeling 'numb below the neck'.

Sounds like it was an honest mistake and he just wasn't positioned properly.
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Old 14-02-2012, 09:52
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Sorenson also seemed to injure his arm/wrist earlier in the match. I wondered if it was that previous injury that prevented him from catching Zema correctly when he did the flip and thus resulted in him getting clobbered.

Just seemed like one of those accidents that can happen with this type of wrestling sadly.
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Old 14-02-2012, 09:55
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Just seemed like one of those accidents that can happen with this type of wrestling sadly.
Very true. I guess it takes me back to Austin's neck injury when Owen screwed up the tombstone piledriver.
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Old 14-02-2012, 11:37
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Good to see a better variety of talent on Impact this week. Loved the way the UK crowd just booed Crimson and Morgan

Decent promo from Magnus too and all in all a pretty good show.
They claimed on Impact last week that this week would have a Star Wars theme which sounded a bit silly to me, yet this weeks ep I saw nothing Star Wars related in anyway and I think there was only one SW reference all evening, did they change their minds or something.
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Old 14-02-2012, 11:39
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I'm a couple of weeks behind so just watching the end of the 2nd Feb Impact. Wow at Mark Haskins, if you can't do an SSP properly then surely just stop attempting them! He botched it against Doug Williams last year and now botches it even worse looking like he nearly killed himself with it this time around!!

Bad to hear about Sorensen too, I wasn't his biggest fan but think he has potential. I hope he recovers ok.

To be honest I think TNA need to consider either hiring some more new X Division guys or even bringing a couple from the past back...the division seems really low right now and that's not good. When you take out Aries and Shelley who else is there really who is a credible challenger? Sorensen and Ion are new and have been shown to not be ready yet, Kash is a heel and had a shot, Shelley is having his but outside of them I'm stuck for who to really use in the division. I think they need to bring in some more guys.
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Old 14-02-2012, 11:49
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Completely agree about the X-Div, its what hooked me into TNA, the roster is dangerously thin, especially now that AJ, Joe, Daniels, Kaz.... are all into the main event arena. Can't see them bringing any back any time soon.
On a side note, whats happened to Ken Kennedy?
And Abyss, i know storyline wise Abyss was taken out by Bully, but is it just to rest him??
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Old 14-02-2012, 12:03
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They claimed on Impact last week that this week would have a Star Wars theme which sounded a bit silly to me, yet this weeks ep I saw nothing Star Wars related in anyway and I think there was only one SW reference all evening, did they change their minds or something.
Product placement. Challenge wouldn't have received any benefit that Spike did from showing any related segment, so most likely would have been cut.
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Old 15-02-2012, 01:18
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Dixies Twitter:

"TNA and Vince Russo have mutually parted ways as of this week. The separation is amicable and professional. We are glad for the opportunity to have worked together and wish each other nothing but good luck and success in the future."
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Old 15-02-2012, 01:31
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Dixies Twitter:

"TNA and Vince Russo have mutually parted ways as of this week. The separation is amicable and professional. We are glad for the opportunity to have worked together and wish each other nothing but good luck and success in the future."
Hallelujah !!!!

It's only taken what, 7 years ?

But then, to be fair, since Russo stopped leading creative the quality of the show has definitely improved. Hopefully he'll never work in wrestling in any capacity ever again.
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Old 15-02-2012, 12:04
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I miss Scott De'Amore's influence.

Even when he was just booking the knockouts a couple of years ago, they were such a better division.
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Old 15-02-2012, 15:20
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I miss Scott De'Amore's influence.

Even when he was just booking the knockouts a couple of years ago, they were such a better division.
Agreed. The knockouts arguably gave TNA even more credibility than the X Division. If it was down to me, I'd keep throwing money at D'Amore until he came back.

I know the so-called "IWC" would want Heyman to come in to take over but he'll never do it so I certainly think D'Amore would be a good choice. But then, as I said, since Russo stepped down, the quality of the product has gone up anyway.

The one concession i'll give Russo is that he was quite adamant about pushing the TNA homegrown talent which i have no problem with.
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Old 15-02-2012, 17:41
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I don't think this will make one iota of difference to TNA's ratings. WWE fanboys will find another reason not to watch TNA.

Although, to be fair, I don't blame them, as the production values are massively inferior to WWE. And flashiness is everything in American pro-wrestling.
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Old 15-02-2012, 17:49
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I don't think this will make one iota of difference to TNA's ratings
it won't. the so-called "IWC" would still hate TNA even if Heyman did come in.
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Old 15-02-2012, 18:47
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I don't think this will make one iota of difference to TNA's ratings. WWE fanboys will find another reason not to watch TNA.

Although, to be fair, I don't blame them, as the production values are massively inferior to WWE. And flashiness is everything in American pro-wrestling.
It was the just the same with WCW. Regularly called "world crappy wrestling" back in 1996 when it was making even WWE look inferior in every way (even production values). Since then the big E has really cemented its position as pro wrestling and then tried to kill the name off, with Vince rewriting history.
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Old 15-02-2012, 23:18
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I see Challenge didn't show the actual Sorensen incident and cut to a 'BOO' sign in the audience when it happened. They didn't show any of the replays that were originally aired on the live PPV either.

Probably not unexpected though given it was pretty serious.
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Old 15-02-2012, 23:20
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Good decision by Challenge not to show Sorensen's injury. Looked nasty, hope he can make a full recovery.
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Old 16-02-2012, 06:34
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Yep, praying for Jesse to recover as well as possible.

Kurt Angle has tweeted he could be out for upto a year, though he (Kurt) thinks he could be back in 4 months. Not sure anybody should be taking health advice from KA tbh.

Re: the spot, it didnt look like a natural flip, Jesse didnt seem to position to catch him properly, it looked like he was already injured as well. Zema tucks his knees in so he doesnt contact the barriers and knocks him clean. People have been talking about how the impact zone is unsafe and cramped before and how this again proves it.

Although why they didnt do the planned spot on the entrance side of the ring i've no idea. Also people are complaining TNA are having greener guys performing higher risk moves which is dangerous. The Haskins botch and now this a week later doesnt look good either way.
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Old 16-02-2012, 09:59
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Praise the lord Russo is gone! This was probably the best news in wrestling I've seen for about 10 years or more.

As people have said, you can clearly see how TNA has been way more watchable since Russo's influence has been toned right down....now I hope without him there at all it will get even better still.

Also I agree that the Knockouts were awesome when D'Amore was around so I'd love to see him come back. For me the biggest things TNA need to do to get even better right now are flesh out the X Division more, carry on making the Knockouts better again like they used to be and they REALLY need to elevate the TV title.

If I were there I'd take the TV title off Robbie E and put it on Daniels, Kazarian, Styles, Pope, hell even Anderson or RVD. They need to elevate it by having it defended on a regular basis by a good sized name. Let's face it, those guys aren't and can't be in the main event picture right now so why not have one of them start putting some prestige into the TV title. Hell even Bully Ray would be a good guy to hold that belt and elevate it.

The only other thing I'd like is if they stopped the latest goofy Eric Young gimmick and just went back to having him be a fan favourite in the X Division. I like Eric in the ring and I remember being behind him when he was challenging for the X title against Alex Shelley ages ago (sure he even won but then had it overturned if I remember rightly) doing that would kill two birds with one stone in my opinion.
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