tna has been meh for months now, they dont deserve russo when they water down his ideas

expect more flippy floppy x divison boredom now...sigh

I can't believe your still trying to troll with Russo. Give it up man.

Decent PPV. Nothing outstanding, but the X Division match was MOTN for me. Styles/Kazarian was good as well.

I saw the original feed for Sorensen's injury and you didn't actually see anything in one sense because Ion's body obscured the actual impact, but that said, it was a good decision not to show it. I imagine TNA edited it out of the PPV feed before sending the tapes out to whichever market was screening them.

I read that Jim Cornette tweeted after it was confirmed Russo was gone .. it read "Have I died?". Genius

How is whedon trolling? Because he has an unpopular opinion about Russo?

I disagree with a lot of what whedon says, but he is one of the best posters on these forums, he speaks his mind rather than being a typical smark sheep. Russo has his fans, you know; Vince would never have invited him back to WWE after wCw fell if he didn't see something in him.

To me, it just seems like he's posting it for effect or to get a reaction. Also many times, he very rarely adds much depth or detail to his pro Russo stance.

I would say a sizeable chunk of people who are anti Russo aren't just going with crowd. Looking at history makes it very easy to see that Russo was a terrible booker. I'm sure some people go with flow, however I believe the majority know the background of Russo.

Very true. Anyone with an ounce of knowledge about the business and it's history will know what sort of negative effect Russo has had on it.

thanks ags,dont worry about the above posters,they call me troll all they want,they know deep down i am for real

i have posted numerous times why im a huge fan of vince russo,how will doing it every time i post help matters??????

you may enjoy impact more now but i wont, am i a troll for finding different stuff interesting?

also im consistent,i have said for months that TNA is not a russo product even with him on writing team,if i was a troll surely i would be trumpeting TNA shows every single week?

yeh...exactly.

anyway........was TNA's ppv this week?

Word round the campfire was always that Hogan and Uncle Eric were in charge anyway, Russo was kept because neither of them could be bothered writing full scripts for Impact every week, and now they've got David Lagana to do that.

i wouldnt be shocked,wasnt it kurt angle who said russo would give him layout of next 6 months and then every taping something would be changed or modified by hogan/bish till it looked completley different

It will be very interesting to see how Hogan/Bischoff work around a new writing team.

The Garrett Bischoff storyline is dire, absolutely dire. Much like Shane McMahon, unless he starts jumping from ludicrous heights and being thrown through glass panels, I won't give a damn about him, and neither will the fans.

to be fair shane had a rich kid smugness about him that made him a great lil heel alongside his evil dad...garrett just has nothing about him so far

It's quite easy to see how TNA has improved massively since Russo was effectively neutered by Hogan and Bischoff. Things can only get better in my opinion.

I have tried to read Russo's lines and even bought and read his last book but I still am of the opinion that Russo should not be anywhere near any wrestling company. Why he wants to be I have no idea as he's even gone on record himself saying how his perfect vision for a wrestling show would be to have no actual wrestling on it and just have all the drama. This is why Russo needs to look at getting into television or movies if he wants to write and just leave wrestling well alone.

Jim Cornette is also an absolute legend and I'm only sorry that he wasn't given the book and the full reign to do with TNA what he wanted (same with Heyman as he's an amazing booker, just don't give him control of the finances.)

It's still odd what's happening with Lagana, some sources say he's taking over and some say he still isn't. Either way I'm VERY happy.

cornette? this is the guy who wanted a new heel to debut out of a box

when asked why he replied....just because,it will get him over

yeh...absolute legend

I actually watched this PPV, it was the first time I have seen TNA in a while.

Sorensons injury was cut out in the replay I saw.

Frankie Kazarian is fantastic but a bit of a big move merchant and little solid work. The match with AJ was well done though.

Bobby Roode is really good, he's wasted in TNA, but if he went to WWE he would get booked to shit and back.

Cornette knows more about wrestling, getting people over and good booking than Russo could ever hope to know in a lifetime.

In five lifetimes. All you'd need is one central, strong figure to bring Cornette and Heyman together to book a promotion and you'd have a huge hit on your hands.

You could do it two ways - keep throwing money at them until they forget any differences they might have and get on the same page or draw up a contract that allows them to work together but in seperate offices with a go-between.

The box gimmick has worked in the past. No saying that it would work in the modern era, but people were curious to see whats in it. If you put a lot of spotlight on it, people do take to it.

Garrett isn't ready. He's getting shoved down peoples throats, so people are understandably rejecting it.

Nepotism is still alive and well in Wrestling it seems.

Nepotism will always be there in wrestling, it's a fact of life. I agree with what Meltzer said about Bisch Jr in that if they were going to do this, they should have had him do a couple of years of indie matches, tried to get him in ROH first etc, so at least when they did this angle he was as good as he possibly could be as a wrestler and at least had experience. Pushing him the way they've done it won't work.

I watched YouShoot with Jim Cornette (fantastic shoot if you watch them) and he said his beef with Heyman wasn't as bad as it's been made out to be. They have some issues but I think they could work around them in the right setting. It would be amazing to combine the two of them.

Love this pic

http://www.jrsbarbq.com/files/images/JR85.jpg

The thing is Cornette and Heyman were successful as bookers or promoters in the artistic sense. JC with his work in NWA in 1989, SMW 1991 - 1995, and OVW in the early 2000's. Heyman with his work in ECW, which was at least solid until the end, then Smackdown in 2002. The creative input and success of SMW and ECW was impressive when you consider they had limited funds and started during a big wrestling decline. Maybe not to everyone's taste, but you couldn't call either promotion bad - probably too niche to financially survive.

Russo was a great ideas man/writer for the archaic McMahon, but even back then the WWE had a solid upper echelon of authority figures. He also seemed in his element there, as he probably shared a similar philosophy to the likes of Kevin Dunn. WCW was a mess but he did seem to wield an enormous amount of power (at times) there, evidenced by the TV output. Much of it was panned by critics and fans; the business decline with such big stars and wrestling being popular is evidence it wasn't well received. His own promotion was nothing to write home about, TNA has been hit and miss with a frenetic TV production style until Bischoff came on board.

Pure Russo (pre B.A.C) makes for interesting TV, usually becomes so storyline twisted it becomes incoherent. But its not financially workable as a wrestling promotion outside of the WWE imo.

Sting posted on his Twitter: "I'm done". This was re-tweeted by the official Impact Wrestling Twitter.

What's going on? Is the Stinger's retirement match on the way?!

Im not sure Cornette and Heyman would have done anything better than Russo did or TNA are doing now. Its the easiest job in the world to armchair book.

As jamespondo said, Russo can make interesting TV, he can have some brilliant ideas/angles. You can have all the logic in the world but sometimes you need a bit of added excitement.