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chilled_meat
28-05-2012
I thought it was to do with private information being disclosed, or something like that, which they are fully within their right to seek legal action against.


I'm looking forward to next week and in particular, the audience. As it's live and at a certain time of day, you won't get average joes in there, but more probably people who want to be there.

Unfortunately, i'm almost expecting a lot of technical mistakes...
daniel9624
28-05-2012
YES chants on Impact!!!
Great Ep last night, though saw sting return a mile off. Love the OFN idea. Just wish they used the whole roster a little better, so many didn't get any time last ngiht.
chilled_meat
28-05-2012
The guy in the Gut Check - whose name i forget haha - he had more charisma than Alex Silva, but did Austin actually drop him on his head?! I winced when it landed!
daniel9624
28-05-2012
It was a pretty heavy looking landing. Agree he had much more about him than Alex Silva, but it still annoys me that they released so much talent that was better than both of these, i.e. Jay Lethal, Creed, Red, etc etc
ags_rule
28-05-2012
Quite enjoyed Impact last night. Bully Ray was just immense. Joey Ryan could make a good comedy wrestler, but seeing as TNA already have Eric Young, the dude needs to think of a better gimmick. They need fresh and relevant X-Division stars, not yet more guys for Aries to outshine.

Speaking of Aries, how *bleep*ing awesome was that Brainbuster?!

Great main event between Styles and Roode.

Roode despertately needs a better finisher. The Fisherman's Suplex just doesn't look better than any normal move.
Steveaustin316
28-05-2012
If WWE had thought of the Bully Ray gimmick when he had his brief singles run in WWE in 2002, maybe it wouldn't have flopped so badly.
.:Adam:.
28-05-2012
Does anyone know if Challenge have any plans to start showing Impact live...?
DejaVoodoo
28-05-2012
Some fun stuff on Impact.

Bully Ray is a great character. Good main event as well.
DejaVoodoo
28-05-2012
Originally Posted by .:Adam:.:
“Does anyone know if Challenge have any plans to start showing Impact live...?”

Haven't seen anything to say they will.
chilled_meat
28-05-2012
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“Roode despertately needs a better finisher. The Fisherman's Suplex just doesn't look better than any normal move.”

That's not his finisher, i think it's the Double R Spinebuster. The fisherman is just the pin afterwards. That's what i thought anyway.

Originally Posted by .:Adam:.:
“Does anyone know if Challenge have any plans to start showing Impact live...?”

I doubt they will. Consider the time difference. The program is live from Florida at 8pm local time. That's EST, so UK time would be 1am - the audience would be severly restricted. PPV's could possibly become live, but that might require Challenge to stump up more cash.

Of the Impact Zone, are there health and safety regarding capacity? Looking at some ariel shots on the crane-cam, there is so much more space that could be filled.
Georged123
29-05-2012
Originally Posted by chilled_meat:
“That's not his finisher, i think it's the Double R Spinebuster. The fisherman is just the pin afterwards. That's what i thought anyway.”

If it is the spinebuster, then it's still pretty weak. Loads of guys have kicked out after it when Roode's used it and in wrestling in general it's a very basic move that very rarely wins the match. He's better off using the spear.
ags_rule
29-05-2012
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“If it is the spinebuster, then it's still pretty weak. Loads of guys have kicked out after it when Roode's used it and in wrestling in general it's a very basic move that very rarely wins the match. He's better off using the spear.”

The spear is so blasse though, a real lazy move to use as a finisher.

Roode has the potential to be huge. I think he's a future WWE wrestler as he fits the Triple H mould perfectly. But what he's missing is that individuality offered by a unique and devastating looking finisher.

Like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdpX5uvrjY8
Georged123
29-05-2012
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“The spear is so blasse though, a real lazy move to use as a finisher.

Roode has the potential to be huge. I think he's a future WWE wrestler as he fits the Triple H mould perfectly. But what he's missing is that individuality offered by a unique and devastating looking finisher.

Like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdpX5uvrjY8”

At least the spear is a recognised finisher, it may not be anything new or unique but at least the crowd will believe a guy can win the match with it unlike the spinebuster.

Agree about Fade To Black though, that is an awesome move.
longliving
29-05-2012
Did any of you get tickets to see TNA in the presale? I could have swore i recieved my tickets but can't find them. I did get WWE tickets for November but i was sure i got the TNA tickets through. There is a cool thing on Ticketmaster that lets you see which seats are sold and which aren't. I want to see if the seats next to me are sold lol.
ags_rule
30-05-2012
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/2554...-elements-more

Quote:
“ TNA IMPACT WRESTLING announced today that the highly-rated weekly series will be making changes to its programming to include a hybrid of reality and explosive action each Thursday, live on SPIKE TV at 8:00pm/ ET. The reality elements and production technique represent the most significant evolution in this genre in more than 15 years.

“We took a step back to look at our product with fresh eyes,” says TNA IMPACT WRESTLING President Dixie Carter. “People watch TV differently today than before, and the wrestling format itself has become stale. What happens backstage, in the office and on the road is so entertaining that we decided it was time to pull the curtain way back and give viewers a peek at that world as well. Over the next few weeks and months, viewers will continue to see our show evolve as we expose more real aspects of our business that have always been sacred,” she continued.

This announcement is a key component in the continued growth of the TNA IMPACT WRESTLING brand that is bringing game-changing programming to the world of professional wrestling. Cameras will be everywhere. Meetings will be shot in real time and unscripted as we capture moments; not produced segments. Access to conversations and vantage points that have never been seen before, such as production meetings, talent evaluations and post match critiques, will be revealed. Combined with an emphasis on story structure, long term character and story development, these changes will help IMPACT WRESTLING pioneer the next generation of wrestling entertainment programming.

Going live allows IMPACT WRESTLING a deeper connection with our audience via social media. Starting with the May 31st broadcast, IMPACT WRESTLING will be the most socially interactive television program in the history of professional wrestling. Viewers will have a variety of unique opportunities to participate and influence certain elements of the program through various social media platforms. Also, backstage will take center stage, as fans will have access to live interviews being conducted featured on www.impactwrestling.com.”

Real risky move to "open the floodgates" and turn whole sections of the show into a shoot.

That kind of thing went down like a lead balloon in wCw, but then again, that was before the internet really took off. I'm interested to see how it'll go down 12 years later.

I guess credit to TNA where it's due, at least they are trying to innovate.
JasonWatkins
30-05-2012
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“Real risky move to "open the floodgates" and turn whole sections of the show into a shoot”

Yes, very much so. The danger is, I guess, that if people are let in on the booking decisions and creative meetings, they'll take the actual show less seriously and won't be that interested because while they'll already know it's scripted, it'll just be too bizarre to watch the angle play out when they've seen it being discussed in a room.
daniel9624
31-05-2012
I would hope that it would be better thought out than that. With the post match critiques leading into where and who is fought next, but then cut us out when it comes to results etc. At least we may get an idea of why some people are in the main event picture one week, then struggling to get TV time the next!
kevb9
31-05-2012
Is roode really the longest reigning tna champion? or are TNA re-writing history and hoping nobody remembers?
Georged123
31-05-2012
Originally Posted by kevb9:
“Is roode really the longest reigning tna champion? or are TNA re-writing history and hoping nobody remembers?”

Yes he is. AJ was champion for 211 days and Roode is currently on 217 days.

Jeff Jarrett held the NWA World Title for 347 days but thats not the same belt.
JasonWatkins
31-05-2012
Just reading that Dixie is apparently "considering" less PPV's. If they do this, i think it'll be a good move.

At least they'll be able to build properly to some matches, rather than knocking out the usual 4 week turnaround for each PPV at the end of the month.

I remember the days of the WWF having the Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam and the Survivor Series - and nothing else.

Think of matches like Rick Rude/Ultimate Warrior and even the Warrior/Savage "retirement" angle as well. All matches I remember being completely invested in because the build had been going on for months rather than weeks.

Admittedly I used to watch a lot more wrestling back then, but I certainly think the point still stands.
ags_rule
31-05-2012
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“Just reading that Dixie is apparently "considering" less PPV's. If they do this, i think it'll be a good move.

At least they'll be able to build properly to some matches, rather than knocking out the usual 4 week turnaround for each PPV at the end of the month.

I remember the days of the WWF having the Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam and the Survivor Series - and nothing else.

Think of matches like Rick Rude/Ultimate Warrior and even the Warrior/Savage "retirement" angle as well. All matches I remember being completely invested in because the build had been going on for months rather than weeks.

Admittedly I used to watch a lot more wrestling back then, but I certainly think the point still stands.”

Dixie and TNA aren't just considering it, they're pushing for it - it's the PPV/cable companies who are holding it up.

Apparently TNA want to move to 6-8 PPVs a year but they need to renegotiate their PPV contracts to do so, and that's tougher than it sounds because apparently - according to what Dixie said at the conference call anyway - all their PPVs are profitable.
hemightydave
02-06-2012
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“I remember the days of the WWF having the Rumble, Wrestlemania, Summerslam and the Survivor Series - and nothing else.

Think of matches like Rick Rude/Ultimate Warrior and even the Warrior/Savage "retirement" angle as well. All matches I remember being completely invested in because the build had been going on for months rather than weeks..”

I absolutely agree with you! I don't know if its a case of looking back with rose tinted glasses but they were simpler times I guess!

I'm enjoying Impact massively at the moment, each episode seems much longer (but in a good way)

OFN is working well and whilst the gut check feature hasn't been amazing it's alowed them to use Flair in a much more apropriate way, and in fairness to them it is something 'different'. The only thing that is lacking is any real focus on the knockouts - Tessmacher is deservedly getting a push but there is so much talent there which is not getting used. And some that is getting over used (Gail Sodding Kim, I'm looking at you!) Perhaps a monthly knockouts special would be worth considering?
homer2012
03-06-2012
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“all their PPVs are profitable.”

I'd love to see a breakdown of TNA PPV's ie buy rate, ppv provider fee's, total tna cost for PPV event.

6,000 -8,000 buys can't be making very much money.
chilled_meat
03-06-2012
Tuning in now for the first of the new 'live' broadcasts!
ags_rule
03-06-2012
Originally Posted by homer2012:
“I'd love to see a breakdown of TNA PPV's ie buy rate, ppv provider fee's, total tna cost for PPV event.

6,000 -8,000 buys can't be making very much money.”

TNA are a private company and only a handful of people actually know how many PPV buys they are actually doing.

According to Dixie in her conference call, the numbers quoted by the dirtsheets are wrong more often than they're right.
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