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Old 10-02-2013, 13:12
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It's Haulage lads, WWE probably have a set stationed in Europe, TNA won't have that facility.
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Old 10-02-2013, 16:28
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All TNAs sets look like scaffold with banners on them when they do PPVs out side the IZ.
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Old 10-02-2013, 18:38
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I hate the entrances in the UK TV tapings, the way the camera follows behind them as they're coming out. How come they're able to get proper entrance cameras for the bloody Impact Zone but can't for shows on the road?!
I think they do it on purpose to show off the size of the crowd at every opportunity. The crowd going wild or booing their heads off *is* the entrance.
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Old 10-02-2013, 22:16
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Old 10-02-2013, 23:22
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If they do that then they're arseholes! They must be still having nightmares from 1996/97 when WCW took them on and nearly had them beat.
They didn't nearly have them beat-WWF were on their back and tapping out but some ridiculous backstage decisions by WCW let them get back on their feet and they never looked back.
Ive been watching Nitros and PPVs from the Monday Night Wars era and the NWO Anthology on Youtube and the saddest thing (apart from how many of the people appearing on the shows are dead-there was a six man tag match on one I watched the other night and not one of the participants is still with us) is just how many missed chances they had in terms of talent and angles because of the backstage politics and letting "the boys" run the show. Anyone who remembers this era should read "The death of WCW" by Wrestlecraps RD Reynolds. Decisions were made that anyone who'd ever watched a wrestling show wouldn't have made-far less people who'd been in the business for decades.
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Old 11-02-2013, 03:47
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They didn't nearly have them beat-WWF were on their back and tapping out but some ridiculous backstage decisions by WCW let them get back on their feet and they never looked back.
Ive been watching Nitros and PPVs from the Monday Night Wars era and the NWO Anthology on Youtube and the saddest thing (apart from how many of the people appearing on the shows are dead-there was a six man tag match on one I watched the other night and not one of the participants is still with us) is just how many missed chances they had in terms of talent and angles because of the backstage politics and letting "the boys" run the show. Anyone who remembers this era should read "The death of WCW" by Wrestlecraps RD Reynolds. Decisions were made that anyone who'd ever watched a wrestling show wouldn't have made-far less people who'd been in the business for decades.
Kevin Nash freely admits in the last WWE NWO documentary that he had a 3 and a half year deal at one point that guaranteed him millions no matter what happened and as a result he didn't care at all what the product was like.
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Old 11-02-2013, 09:10
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They didn't nearly have them beat-WWF were on their back and tapping out but some ridiculous backstage decisions by WCW let them get back on their feet and they never looked back.
Ive been watching Nitros and PPVs from the Monday Night Wars era and the NWO Anthology on Youtube and the saddest thing (apart from how many of the people appearing on the shows are dead-there was a six man tag match on one I watched the other night and not one of the participants is still with us) is just how many missed chances they had in terms of talent and angles because of the backstage politics and letting "the boys" run the show. Anyone who remembers this era should read "The death of WCW" by Wrestlecraps RD Reynolds. Decisions were made that anyone who'd ever watched a wrestling show wouldn't have made-far less people who'd been in the business for decades.
They didn't nearly have them beat-WWF were on their back and tapping out but some ridiculous backstage decisions by WCW let them get back on their feet and they never looked back.
Ive been watching Nitros and PPVs from the Monday Night Wars era and the NWO Anthology on Youtube and the saddest thing (apart from how many of the people appearing on the shows are dead-there was a six man tag match on one I watched the other night and not one of the participants is still with us) is just how many missed chances they had in terms of talent and angles because of the backstage politics and letting "the boys" run the show.
I've been watching the Nitros and ppvs, watched the whole of 1996 and 1997, some of the stuff on the web about WCW is so far off the mark about they're demise but I'll go into that another day.
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Old 11-02-2013, 13:05
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Kevin Nash freely admits in the last WWE NWO documentary that he had a 3 and a half year deal at one point that guaranteed him millions no matter what happened and as a result he didn't care at all what the product was like.
I wonder what would have happened had he never been made booker alongside Dusty Rhodes. Or at least pushed Steiner, Booker, Raven and the 'vanilla midgets' when the ratings started dropping in Spring '99. I think it was around this time Hogan, Luger, Hall, Hart and Goldberg were either out of action or filming something. Instead Nash relied on worn acts: Savage, Piper, Flair, Sid, Sting, and himself ofcourse.
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Old 12-02-2013, 21:50
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Longball I'd love to hear it as this is something I'm truly fascinated by at the moment, especially as TNA don't seem to have learned any lessons from it.
JCW the guaranteed contracts were one of the biggest reasons for the fact they started losing money hand over fist. People would drag out injuries or get themselves intentionally suspended and sit at home resting on a bed of money.
They also used to fly everybody in for TVs from all over the USA and Canada whether they would be on or not which meant 65% of the roster had sat on a plane for nowt, until the wrestlers got wise to it and started getting their mates to sign them in and sit at home getting paid.
A few people have said that towards the end WCW would have been losing less money by just not having anyone turn up, and just shovelling a few million dollars in used bills into a burning skip at the top of each hour of Nitro and showing that.
The product was so good, and yet a few rampant egos managed to bring the company to its knees, and once Billionaire Ted wasn't in a position to be their Guardian Angel, there was no option but to pull the plug.
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Old 12-02-2013, 23:20
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Longball I'd love to hear it as this is something I'm truly fascinated by at the moment, especially as TNA don't seem to have learned any lessons from it.
JCW the guaranteed contracts were one of the biggest reasons for the fact they started losing money hand over fist. People would drag out injuries or get themselves intentionally suspended and sit at home resting on a bed of money.
They also used to fly everybody in for TVs from all over the USA and Canada whether they would be on or not which meant 65% of the roster had sat on a plane for nowt, until the wrestlers got wise to it and started getting their mates to sign them in and sit at home getting paid.
A few people have said that towards the end WCW would have been losing less money by just not having anyone turn up, and just shovelling a few million dollars in used bills into a burning skip at the top of each hour of Nitro and showing that.
The product was so good, and yet a few rampant egos managed to bring the company to its knees, and once Billionaire Ted wasn't in a position to be their Guardian Angel, there was no option but to pull the plug.
I do agree about some of the contracts, they were too large but I read stories about the ending of Starrcade 97 was the beginning of the end or the finger poke of doom, message me if you want my overall opinion on why WWF won, yes WCW made mistakes but WWF wasn't perfect either, some stories on the internet are very anti-WCW imo.
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Old 13-02-2013, 10:46
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Tna doing 1.15/1.16's, their best for a year.

Can't believe WWE is getting 3 times the viewers TNA is getting, hopefully 2013 will be the year to get close to 1.5's ratings.
Do you have a source for the ratings?
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Old 13-02-2013, 12:13
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I just search with Google but here's Januarys ratings.
http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/ne...nuary-2013.htm
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Old 13-02-2013, 12:32
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Thanks and this is for the US i'm assuming.
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Old 13-02-2013, 16:36
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Thanks and this is for the US i'm assuming.
It is, use the BARB website to get U.K ratings.
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