[DejaVoodoo]

Some interesting info from Dave Meltzer in regards to TNA's poor financial situation as well as the Dixie overseing creative rather than running the company.

Financial situation has been like that since well before Janice and would be more likely since because the family is putting less money into the company. Late payments to vendors stuff was happening last summer when Dixie and Heyman were talking, and actually months before that.

As of today, at least people who should know believe the Dixie stuff to be all BS. All I know is it wasn't the case as of TV last Wednesday as far as any of the talent was concerned. I mean, anything is possible but everyone there I've heard from doesn't believe it.

[wildmovieguy]

Dave Meltzer is a liar with no sources or anything to back what he says up. Then again people have been saying for years that TNA will be 'out of business in 6 months'. The marks are wrong again. Their getting kayfabed constantly and with TNA being a private company NO ONE knows anything about the financial situation of the company. So who is his sources? He makes it sound like it's common knowledge. As if their gonna let an AJ Styles know how well the company is doing or a $200 a night Tara. You think $200 a night Tara infact i'll just nickname her Tara 200, you think she know's what's going on? You really think their gonna know about that stuff or is it a case of Dave Meltzer has super special contacts on the 'inside'! In the private meetings, at Panda Energy HQ and their sending him highly encrypted emails letting him know what's going on lol.

Just take a look at the news sites, look at the TNA sections. Heck just look at the Jeff Hardy situation, to this day no one knows the full story of what happened at that PPV. TNA is a well oiled machine, even now rumours are only just starting to come out conerning Desmond Wolfe. Very little leaks out from TNA, storyline wise and certainly business wise infact business wise nothing leaks out, only what people like Dave Meltzer says to his audience. He can't back a single thing he says up.

I'll say it once more. Well. Oiled. Machine. And the sooner Dixie is out of there and Easy E can take over the better. Even Ric Flair said he's never had this much fun in wrestling since the 1980's! TNA is fine and with 192,000 UK viewers in the UK, there's plenty of others who think it is just fine too.

[doffer]

Originally Posted by f_196

Speaking personally (and perhaps for others too), TNA was all about six-sides, the massively strong X Division and the fantastic Knockouts Division.

I like Anderson, and I still think Sting has some place, but I couldn't give a **** about RVD, Hogan, Bischoff and the ECW lot. They've added nothing but a bit of ageing, rose-tinted happiness to better days.

I'd agree with that

[decemberboy]

Originally Posted by wildmovieguy

Dave Meltzer is a liar with no sources or anything to back what he says up.

I look forward to the libel lawsuit TNA issues him.

[matty125]

Originally Posted by wildmovieguy

Not sure if this is a first or not but TNA Impact was the number 1 show on Challenge for the week ending 17th of April.

1 TNA IMPACT (TUE 2203) 192

192,000 is impressive. The +1 showing did not rank at all and the lowest was 27,000 so the total watching on+1 was less than 27,000. That means most people are watching TNA Impact as it airs infact it beat all first run WWE programming for that week. The ratings just keep getting better and better and only a little bit more before breaking that 200,000 barrier. Could this be their highest ever UK rating? As always the marks can whine and complain but the TV audience is thriving always and continues to grow each week. They obviously like what their seeing.

It maybe getting good figures but it wouldnt beat WWE if WWE was on a FTV channel.

[wildmovieguy]

Well we will never know since Sky will never allow WWE programming to leave Sky Sports but the good thing about TNA getting good ratings is there is a large group of people in the UK finding TNA every single week and their obviously enjoying it since the number keeps growing and the more it grows the more the regular audience is staying so not only do they gain new viewers their also keeping the older ones. TNA isn't repeated about a million times a week like WWE is. It is on once and then the only way to view it is on the +1 channel.


So you have WWE fans that will only watch WWE, then WWE fans who watch TNA and then fans that only watch TNA. It gives wrestling more exposure in the UK and obviously everyone is hoping that the WWE does indeed have a no compete clause with Sky. Thanks Vince! This is the best result that could ever have happened, TNA Wrestling on a free to air channel...........owned by BSKYB! It don't get any better than that.

[f_196]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swXqx...feature=relmfu

The peak of TNA for me. There's been nowhere near the level of storyline, chaos and excitement since this episode.

[JCR]

Originally Posted by wildmovieguy

I'll say it once more. Well. Oiled. Machine. And the sooner Dixie is out of there and Easy E can take over the better. Even Ric Flair said he's never had this much fun in wrestling since the 1980's! TNA is fine and with 192,000 UK viewers in the UK, there's plenty of others who think it is just fine too.

Meltzer also says there's no truth to the rumours Dixies going; Panda are in charge of TNA's finances but have been since last year because TNA was losing money. Dixie still has creative control over TNA.

Hey maybe Dixie's his source?

[daniel9624]

Figures for TNA would be higher if the Series Link was in the place. I sat down ready to watch yesterday evening on SKY+ and it was nowehere to be found, was gutted!

[DejaVoodoo]

Originally Posted by wildmovieguy

Dave Meltzer is a liar with no sources or anything to back what he says up. Then again people have been saying for years that TNA will be 'out of business in 6 months'. The marks are wrong again. Their getting kayfabed constantly and with TNA being a private company NO ONE knows anything about the financial situation of the company. So who is his sources? He makes it sound like it's common knowledge. As if their gonna let an AJ Styles know how well the company is doing or a $200 a night Tara. You think $200 a night Tara infact i'll just nickname her Tara 200, you think she know's what's going on? You really think their gonna know about that stuff or is it a case of Dave Meltzer has super special contacts on the 'inside'! In the private meetings, at Panda Energy HQ and their sending him highly encrypted emails letting him know what's going on lol.

Just take a look at the news sites, look at the TNA sections. Heck just look at the Jeff Hardy situation, to this day no one knows the full story of what happened at that PPV. TNA is a well oiled machine, even now rumours are only just starting to come out conerning Desmond Wolfe. Very little leaks out from TNA, storyline wise and certainly business wise infact business wise nothing leaks out, only what people like Dave Meltzer says to his audience. He can't back a single thing he says up.

I'll say it once more. Well. Oiled. Machine. And the sooner Dixie is out of there and Easy E can take over the better. Even Ric Flair said he's never had this much fun in wrestling since the 1980's! TNA is fine and with 192,000 UK viewers in the UK, there's plenty of others who think it is just fine too.

Meltzer has connections throughout the industry. If he's saying something like this, you can bet there is truth to it. As far as TNA being out of business in 6 months, Meltzer I believe said that back in the days before Panda Energy came in, which was correct. Even Jarrett said that publicly.

Meltzer spoke to Desmond Wolfe last week. Wolfe said that a lot of the stories about him were wide of the mark, but wouldn't say what the issue was.

As for TNA doing 192k viewers in the UK. Good. However the only real positives about this is that TNA might get more money from the next tv deal in the UK and that it might have more people coming to UK house shows.

Flair works for TNA. He is unlikely to bite the hand that feeds him.

[sauspud]

Really, really liked this weeks episode. Seemed alot of wrestling (i'm sure someone will add the minutes and post on here later - thanks). It started with pace and kept it. I didn't feel the need to fast forward anything apart from the adverts and the karen - jeff bit until the poop fell. Funny but very predictable.
Would like to see more of Eric Young and this new character he has. great fun.





And bring back sharkboy and six sides.

[wildmovieguy]

And the more people watching the more money can be charged for companies wanting their commercials shown during the show. WWE's supposed no compete clause was a fantastic idea! TNA on a Sky channel, not just any old cheap cheap but a Sky channel and free to air! They even put those freeview boxes in most new TVs now infact soon enough the only way to watch TV in the UK will be to have a digital reciever in your home. Right now most of the country has access to TNA programming.

And Dave talked to Desmon Wolfe and he still doesn't know what's wrong with him? Nice one Desmond, he probably knew Dave was fishing for information and told him where to go. The great thing about TNA is it's always rumours. There's never a name or a source. It's not like WWE where there is loads of people backstage at events and things can get leaked out, TNA just have a small team of people and very little gets out. What else can Dave Meltzer say about TNA apart from them losing money or having low PPV buys? He can't say nothing else because nothing leaks out, nothing about storylines, nothing about what is going on backstage and with TNA being a private company he can't back a single thing up about TNA losing money or their PPV buys being low. That's what most 'news sites' keep their mouths shut about TNA because they can't back anything up. Everyone knows it's a private company. I bet it eats Dave Meltzer alive that probably everyone backstage at TNA knows what really happened in the Jeff Hardy situation, everyone probably knows what is really wrong with Desmond Wolfe and he can't find out what it is. People like him love to spoil wrestling for people. That is what his website is designed for. I bet it eats him alive that he can't use his website to give people the 'inside scoop' at TNA. So let him talk about money being lost or PPV buys being low because in the end that's all he can do.

As far as Ric Flair goes. Look how jakked he is. Look how happy he is. Then look at him in his final days in WWE. Vince McMahon and Shawn Michaels ruined him there, what we are seeing now is the real Ric Flair, not the script reading, crying every 2 minutes old man he was made to look in WWE. But then again many people have came out over the past few years and talked about how miserable the WWE locker room is and how it's not a happy place to work and i can believe it. Even the WWE fans look miserable sitting on their hands in their seats, bright red spotlight shining in their faces. I don't believe for a minute that it's the big happy entertainment everyone loves each other family friendly company they want everyone to believe it is. It's far from it. I hope Ric Flair never goes back and has to be paraded out every few months as a 'legend'. Having to stand next to the likes of Dusty Rhodes and Sgt Slaughter who are nowhere near Ric's class.

[DejaVoodoo]

As per the Observer last week, TNA has traded the name Impact Wrestling. The information has just been released.

From http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...006:otigf0.2.2

Word Mark IMPACT WRESTLING

Goods and Services
IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: Prerecorded video-tapes, compact discs and DVDs featuring wrestling and sports entertainment

IC 038. US 100 101 104. G & S: Live streaming of video pay-per-view events on the Internet

IC 041. US 100 101 107. G & S: Entertainment services, namely, the production and exhibition of professional wrestling events rendered live, and production of television programs in the field of wrestling and sports entertainment; providing wrestling news and information via a global computer network; providing wrestling news and information via the internet

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Filing Date February 17, 2011

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Attorney of Record Robert L. Brewer, Paige W. Mills, and Cara L. Jackson

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[DejaVoodoo]

Originally Posted by wildmovieguy

And the more people watching the more money can be charged for companies wanting their commercials shown during the show. WWE's supposed no compete clause was a fantastic idea! TNA on a Sky channel, not just any old cheap cheap but a Sky channel and free to air! They even put those freeview boxes in most new TVs now infact soon enough the only way to watch TV in the UK will be to have a digital reciever in your home. Right now most of the country has access to TNA programming.

If there was a huge increase, maybe, but tradionally in the US, wrestling ad rates are usually low because it tends to be people with very little disposable income that watch wrestling. No idea if that's the case over here though.

As for the Sky exclusivity clause, Sky have it for everything else. There's nothing to say that the clause does exist and that Sky didn't contact WWE to see if they had any issue. Challenge is an afterthought for Sky, thus hence Sky not even putting it's name on the channel.

And Dave talked to Desmon Wolfe and he still doesn't know what's wrong with him? Nice one Desmond, he probably knew Dave was fishing for information and told him where to go. The great thing about TNA is it's always rumours. There's never a name or a source. It's not like WWE where there is loads of people backstage at events and things can get leaked out, TNA just have a small team of people and very little gets out. What else can Dave Meltzer say about TNA apart from them losing money or having low PPV buys? He can't say nothing else because nothing leaks out, nothing about storylines, nothing about what is going on backstage and with TNA being a private company he can't back a single thing up about TNA losing money or their PPV buys being low. That's what most 'news sites' keep their mouths shut about TNA because they can't back anything up. Everyone knows it's a private company. I bet it eats Dave Meltzer alive that probably everyone backstage at TNA knows what really happened in the Jeff Hardy situation, everyone probably knows what is really wrong with Desmond Wolfe and he can't find out what it is. People like him love to spoil wrestling for people. That is what his website is designed for. I bet it eats him alive that he can't use his website to give people the 'inside scoop' at TNA. So let him talk about money being lost or PPV buys being low because in the end that's all he can do.

Wolfe is keeping it very close to his chest and hasn't told anyone but 1 or 2 people. It's his decision to do that.

As for sources, you name them and they wouldn't be sources for much longer. Think about it.

As for little getting out, buyrates, attendances, info on delayed payments to wrestlers and suppliers is info that got out. Jeff Hardy situation got out as well, correctly as well. Also TNA using the term Impact wrestling more. Fairly big stuff. Limited info indeed.

Wrestling Observer Radio today had Mick Foley on it.

As far as Ric Flair goes. Look how jakked he is. Look how happy he is. Then look at him in his final days in WWE. Vince McMahon and Shawn Michaels ruined him there, what we are seeing now is the real Ric Flair, not the script reading, crying every 2 minutes old man he was made to look in WWE. But then again many people have came out over the past few years and talked about how miserable the WWE locker room is and how it's not a happy place to work and i can believe it. Even the WWE fans look miserable sitting on their hands in their seats, bright red spotlight shining in their faces. I don't believe for a minute that it's the big happy entertainment everyone loves each other family friendly company they want everyone to believe it is. It's far from it. I hope Ric Flair never goes back and has to be paraded out every few months as a 'legend'. Having to stand next to the likes of Dusty Rhodes and Sgt Slaughter who are nowhere near Ric's class.

Look at various points of Ric's career. He always says he loves the current thing he's doing. He's trying to play the company line. On a side note, the fact that Ric has to still wrestle because he's an idiot financially is just really sad.

WWE and TNA fans at recent shows I've seen are very quiet. Sometimes I don't blame them.

[ags_rule]

While I think that TNA are at a low-point currently, I think some fans like to forget just how atrociously bad WWE was around 2005-2007, when Vince's latest idea was to only promote heavyweights, many of whom had limited wrestling ability, such as Umaga, Bobby Lashley, Chris Masters, JBL etc.

I don't think TNA are anywhere near collapse. When you compare what very limited and speculative info we have about their financial state, to how bad ECW and WCW's financial situations were when they collapsed, they have plenty of time to stop the rot.

[f_196]

Originally Posted by DejaVoodoo

As per the Observer last week, TNA has traded the name Impact Wrestling. The information has just been released.

From http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...006:otigf0.2.2

Fans chanting T-N-A, T-N-A, T-N-A just works.

How the hell will this work.

Im...pact! Im...pact! Im...pact!

It's so lame. Another in the long line of bad decisions.

[ags_rule]

Originally Posted by f_196

Fans chanting T-N-A, T-N-A, T-N-A just works.

How the hell will this work.

Im...pact! Im...pact! Im...pact!

It's so lame. Another in the long line of bad decisions.

There's no suggestion that Impact Wrestling is intended to replace the TNA brandname, it's just a rebrand of iMPACT.

[wildmovieguy]

lol it is funny because he automatically assumes, without getting a source or anything that they are replacing the TNA name with Impact Wrestling. It never comes to mind that Impact Wrestling might be the description of their product kind of like WWE calling themselves Sports Entertainment. This is why i love the wrestling forums online, you get a good laugh.

[DejaVoodoo]

Originally Posted by ags_rule

There's no suggestion that Impact Wrestling is intended to replace the TNA brandname, it's just a rebrand of iMPACT.

Originally Posted by wildmovieguy

lol it is funny because he automatically assumes, without getting a source or anything that they are replacing the TNA name with Impact Wrestling. It never comes to mind that Impact Wrestling might be the description of their product kind of like WWE calling themselves Sports Entertainment. This is why i love the wrestling forums online, you get a good laugh.

They supposedly feel that the name is whats holding them back. According to Meltzer, they're not getting rid of the TNA name, but they plan to push the name in an upcoming marketing campaign.

[wildmovieguy]

Nothing wrong with the name TNA, it's catchy and unique.

[Karl Rove]

I don't watch much of TNA these days,But after heard a old interview with Paul.E.It was very good and the fact is TNA will go nowhere.Becuase it tries to repeat the past,And does not take what's out there too learn like MMA does.Think about it wrestling fans are mostly bored with WWE soo TNA is it's lite like company,and copys everything that WWE does.And if I was the person behind TNA I would not make the same Mistake WCW did.

Great Interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxt_ZwlsKA8

But it just my view.

[wildmovieguy]

That isn't true, TNA doesn't copy WWE at all, WWE is a family friendly company who's performers are aren't allowed any freedom at all. What does TNA do right now that WWE currently does? Nothing. TNA don't even use opening credits and pyro to start their shows now. Show me one thing WWE is doing right now that TNA is currently copying.

[Karl Rove]

Originally Posted by wildmovieguy

That isn't true, TNA doesn't copy WWE at all, WWE is a family friendly company who's performers are aren't allowed any freedom at all. What does TNA do right now that WWE currently does? Nothing. TNA don't even use opening credits and pyro to start their shows now. Show me one thing WWE is doing right now that TNA is currently copying.

Has Storylines and Gimmikes.

Does not do it's own thing.

Why was ECW great becuase it did not follow WWE.

[wildmovieguy]

What storylines and gimmicks do WWE have? I know Cody Rhodes has a gimmick and a storyline. Apart from that i think it's just people arguing over the belt no no wait, we do have Randy Orton who pretends to be a snake. No WWE doesn't really have characters or gimmicks or even storylines. It's pretty much just arguing over title belts that mean zilch anyway.

TNA on the other hand has larger than life characters that can walk and talk and do it all in the ring. They have the soap opera side, the technical side, the sexy side and the cheesy side all in one show every week. That is what a proper pro wrestling show should be. Paul Heyman is a con man who left people high and dry after ECW went down the tube. To this day he still owes people money and if he was a decent person he would have paid that money back. I'm glad he got told where to go. If you don't like TNA go and watch the indies.

[Karl Rove]

Originally Posted by wildmovieguy

What storylines and gimmicks do WWE have? I know Cody Rhodes has a gimmick and a storyline. Apart from that i think it's just people arguing over the belt no no wait, we do have Randy Orton who pretends to be a snake. No WWE doesn't really have characters or gimmicks or even storylines. It's pretty much just arguing over title belts that mean zilch anyway.

TNA on the other hand has larger than life characters that can walk and talk and do it all in the ring. They have the soap opera side, the technical side, the sexy side and the cheesy side all in one show every week. That is what a proper pro wrestling show should be. Paul Heyman is a con man who left people high and dry after ECW went down the tube. To this day he still owes people money and if he was a decent person he would have paid that money back. I'm glad he got told where to go. If you don't like TNA go and watch the indies.

Your not look at my message that not what I said.

And should Pro Wrestling be about Vince Russo No.

Sorry marks.