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COTTONHEAT
27-05-2011
it would be great if Mr Anderson was to come out to this dressed as the old school Sting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJjfS...eature=related
KOE_9_ASH
27-05-2011
Originally Posted by Alfie2008:
“Have they changed the official name of the company to Impact Wrestling as I noticed they avoided any mention of the initials TNA during the last Impact?”

Jeff Jarrett said "it's TNA. Always."

Originally Posted by COTTONHEAT:
“it would be great if Mr Anderson was to come out to this dressed as the old school Sting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJjfS...eature=related”

Not sure who holds the rights to that. Could be Jimmy Hart. Could be Vince McMahon.
DejaVoodoo
28-05-2011
Pwinsider
Quote:
“TNA will be taping Impact this Monday and Tuesday at Universal Studios in Orlando. Of late, Universal employees have been trying to crack down on fans using cellphones at the events in an attempt to prevent spoilers from getting out, going as far as to threaten them with a ban from Universal property if they believe the fan might be sending out information. This has actually gone on, off and on, for months, but when I've asked TNA sources about it, I am told it was a Universal issue, not something TNA decreed. Either way. that may be one of the saddest things I've ever heard.”

Good luck with that.
ags_rule
28-05-2011
Destination X spoiler:

Spoiler
http://tnauk.wordpress.com/2011/05/28/six-sided-ring-to-return-for-one-night-only-at-destination-x-2011/

Six-sided ring to return at Destination X!


YES!
lewisakkas
29-05-2011
hello guys, a new member to the forum, a big wrestling fan. loved the good old days of WCW & WWF, and todays wrestling is a load of shite, but hopefully TNA can bring back the good old days
ags_rule
29-05-2011
Welcome to the forum!

Don't expect TNA to blow your mind like WWF Attitude did back in the day, but if you're an old returning fan like myself then you'll certainly appreciate it's nostalgia and more adult content!
lewisakkas
30-05-2011
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“Welcome to the forum!

Don't expect TNA to blow your mind like WWF Attitude did back in the day, but if you're an old returning fan like myself then you'll certainly appreciate it's nostalgia and more adult content!”

all TNA needs is $$$$$ and travel to different city's every week,

dont get me Wrong, the iMPACT zone is good, but its a sound stage, not a arena. and if they travel more. they are gonna fill in more and more seats
DejaVoodoo
30-05-2011
Originally Posted by lewisakkas:
“all TNA needs is $$$$$ and travel to different city's every week,

dont get me Wrong, the iMPACT zone is good, but its a sound stage, not a arena. and if they travel more. they are gonna fill in more and more seats ”

Not necessary. The other TNA Impact road taping was in Flair and Jeff Hardy country. If other TNA House shows numbers are to be taken into account, they can only put a few hundred into an arena.

The biggest issue for TNA is the cost. Costs of taping shows on the road are far more expensive than taping Impact shows back to back over a weekend for the month at the Impact Zone.

The look of Impact on the road is far better and makes it looks more major league, but in a company that is struggling financially, the opinion has been to keep costs down. However, recently there have been more people within the company pushing for road tapings.
wildmovieguy
30-05-2011
Yes TNA taped in North Carolina but here is a fact most WWE fans would prefer you not to know. TNA sold over 3,000 tickets for that night's TV tapings. They taped 2 shows in 1 day. Is 3,000+ really that bad? Well lets look at WWE taping in that same arena this past November, how many fans did they draw? 3,500. So if the WWE, the supposed biggest and best wrestling company can draw 3,500 fans and then TNA draws 3,000+ in the same building......how can that be considered bad? Their very near having the same attendance as the WWE got and the stinger of it all? The building holds 11,000 people for wrestling! So if WWE can only draw 3,500 in an 11,000 seater arena then TNA drawing 3,000 really isn't that bad.


Look at TNA's house shows lately, many of them draw far more than 1,000, sometimes even 2,000. TNA tape TV on the first Monday and Tuesday of the month then 2 weeks later again. They would only need to tape outside the Impact Zone twice a month.
ags_rule
30-05-2011
I think before moving the TV tapings it would be better for them to have more PPVs away from the iMPACT zone. With their low buyrates, having income from ticket sales will become increasingly essential.

They're simply not in any position to be moving out of the iMPACT zone for TV tapings yet, and let's be honest, it is a pretty good deal because Universal are the ones footing the bill for lighting, pyro, etc. Even wCw in their earlier days taped shows inside Disney!
DejaVoodoo
30-05-2011
Originally Posted by wildmovieguy:
“Yes TNA taped in North Carolina but here is a fact most WWE fans would prefer you not to know. TNA sold over 3,000 tickets for that night's TV tapings. They taped 2 shows in 1 day. Is 3,000+ really that bad? Well lets look at WWE taping in that same arena this past November, how many fans did they draw? 3,500. So if the WWE, the supposed biggest and best wrestling company can draw 3,500 fans and then TNA draws 3,000+ in the same building......how can that be considered bad? Their very near having the same attendance as the WWE got and the stinger of it all? The building holds 11,000 people for wrestling! So if WWE can only draw 3,500 in an 11,000 seater arena then TNA drawing 3,000 really isn't that bad.”

That is more the exception rather than the rule. Flair and Jeff Hardy played a large part in that attendance.


Quote:
“ Look at TNA's house shows lately, many of them draw far more than 1,000, sometimes even 2,000. TNA tape TV on the first Monday and Tuesday of the month then 2 weeks later again. They would only need to tape outside the Impact Zone twice a month.”

From WrestlingObserver Newsletter
Quote:
“TNA opened its tour weekend in Amsterdam, NY on 5/20, on the night before the Amsterdam Hall of Fame inductions, so it was a bigger event in town than most, and drew 1,000 fans, which was pretty much sold out at the high school gym. They did the exact same show all three nights of the tour, with 5/21 in Plattsburgh, NY, drawing 700 and 5/22 in Massena, NY, drawing 600.”

It all boils down to it being cost effective.
JCR
30-05-2011
Originally Posted by KOE_9_ASH:
“Jeff Jarrett said "it's TNA. Always."”

There are rumours doing the rounds that the usual backstage politics are getting nastier. Jarrett and Russo versus Hogan and Uncle Eric, the latter being the ones wanting the name changed.
Georged123
31-05-2011
Originally Posted by JCR:
“There are rumours doing the rounds that the usual backstage politics are getting nastier. Jarrett and Russo versus Hogan and Uncle Eric, the latter being the ones wanting the name changed.”

Could you post a link to the story or some details please JCR, I have heard it talked about around the internet but havent heard the full story.
wildmovieguy
31-05-2011
Another Meltzer podcast no doubt. Cost about £20 to hear it.
JCR
31-05-2011
Source WrestlingNewsWorld

"It would be a tremendous understatement for me to report there are very serious and real problems going on right now in TNA Wrestling. While behind-the-scenes "jockeying" in any business, especially in professional wrestling, isn't anything out of the ordinary I'm told things in TNA are teetering on a "full-blown civil war." The two sides in the battle are Jeff Jarrett & Vince Russo vs. Hulk Hogan & Eric Bischoff (I will refer to each camp as Team Jarrett/Russo and Team Hogan/Bischoff for the sake of simplicity). Dixie Carter is described to me as a "deer in the headlights" who is unknowingly "caught in the middle" with the ultimate prize being a Spike TV contract which is "dangling" above both camps. One source joked TNA could be easily mistaken for a ballet company with the amount of tiptoeing going on. Team Jarrett/Russo and Team Hogan/Bischoff are building allies for the ultimate showdown after a year of "passive-aggressive politics" with things just about to reach the "boiling point."

The fight to pick a replacement for the outgoing Director of Talent Relations Terry Taylor is the latest in a long line of defeats for Team Hogan/Bischoff in a struggle to wrestle away more power from Team Jarrett/Russo. We do not have a full list of names considered but I can confirm former long-time WWE executive Bruce Prichard was the first choice of Team Jarrett/Russo. He is considered a trusted member of their contingent and aligned with them as soon as he joined TNA towards the end of 2010. Dixie Carter's first choice to replace Taylor was current on-screen talent Tommy Dreamer. Dreamer has been lobbying for a larger role in the company, especially with his contract set to expire next month. Dreamer is seen as neutral by Team Hogan/Bischoff and had their blessing as well, but Team Jarrett/Russo were successful in touting Prichard's vast amount of experience and he ultimately ended up with the job. Prichard will be the company's new Director of Talent Relations following this week's television tapings.

While Prichard is firmly in the Jarrett camp, Eric Bischoff is "getting cozy" with Bill Goldberg. Not only is Bischoff helping develop a reality vehicle for Goldberg that was recently pitched to truTV, but Goldberg is viewed by Bischoff as a very important chess piece as he and Hogan attempt to outmaneuver Team Jarrett/Russo.

Hogan and Bischoff are currently "hedging their bets." They are trying to maintain the possibility of one day taking over TNA Wrestling while simultaneously preparing for the possibility of one day replacing TNA on Spike TV with their own creation.

Spike TV's contract with UFC expires at the end of the year and negotiations for a renewal are not going well. UFC leaving the network is a very real possibility and as far back as late last year, Spike was already discussing plans in the event UFC does not re-sign. Some of the discussed scenarios include replacing UFC with another MMA organization while others put an even greater focus on professional wrestling programming. One of the reasons UFC was so diligent in acquiring Strikeforce was to eliminate the possibility that Strikeforce could land a lucrative deal with Spike after UFC departs.

If/when UFC leaves Spike TV there is no way to accurately predict the domino effect it could have on the network. While TNA has over a year left on their deal with Spike, very few deals in the TV world are guaranteed and TNA's deal is certainly not one of them. It is the uncertainty as to what kind of changes could be made to the network in the event UFC leaves Spike that Team Hogan/Bischoff are focused on and I am told they have begun work on putting together a competing project. To secure Goldberg's involvement, he's been told he'd be given a stake in the company if this were to happen.

While in many regards Team Hogan/Bischoff have not gotten their way in recent battles with Team Jarrett/Russo, they did somewhat win their very heated fight to change the name of the company to Impact Wrestling. However, according to a source I spoke to, their true motives for the name change are quite interesting. One of the reasons they were so in favor of it was the same reason Team Jarrett/Russo were so against it: Dixie Carter has a very strong emotional attachment to the TNA brand and her "TNA family." The only reason she bought the company (with money from Panda Energy) was so that many of her "family members" would not find themselves out of work. She has remained extremely loyal to key office people, including Vince Russo, who worked in the early days of the company. From the day Hogan and Bischoff arrived on the scene, there's been a concerted effort to cut the emotional ties to the Nashville days and try to eliminate the few that remain from early on in the company's history. The thinking of Hogan and Bischoff is simple - the less connected Dixie feels to the way things were before they got there, the better chance they have at eliminating the Team Jarrett/Russo stumbling block that so many have failed to remove.

Another reason for the change though is one I'm not sure Team Jarrett/Russo suspected. Prior to coming to TNA, Team Hogan/Bischoff had approached Spike TV several times about launching a new wrestling project. The response from Spike was usually the same. Spike had already invested millions of dollars to build the TNA brand and wasn't interested in starting from scratch. If Team Hogan/Bischoff wanted to work with Spike TV, they would have to work with TNA. While Bischoff would insist a new show in the same time slot would suffer no drop off despite the lack of TNA branding Spike had poured millions into, Spike would have none of it.

Now there is a situation where the name of the show has changed and yet viewership remained virtually identical, proving the point Eric Bischoff had tried to make in vain years earlier and thus, the hurdle of Spike TV fearing replacing the TNA brand has been slyly eliminated (TNA Impact to Impact Wrestling). However, the more things change, the more they stay the same. Team Jarrett/Russo are still desperately attempting to remain in favor with Dixie Carter while Team Hogan/Bischoff are trying to slowly arrange the pieces to put themselves in a position to land a deal with Spike if a major network shake-up takes place.

Obviously there is no telling how all this will end; however, I'm told if the action in the ring was half as compelling as what has been going on behind-the-scenes, perhaps Impact Wrestling would matter enough to bring ratings above the stagnant 1.1 or 1.2 cable ratings the show has been drawing before big money was spent on bringing in Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff in the first place."

Is any of it true? God knows. UFC are unlikely to renew with Spike.
JCR
31-05-2011
Originally Posted by wildmovieguy:
“Another Meltzer podcast no doubt. Cost about £20 to hear it.”

It's about £7 a month for f4wonline.com. You should join, you might learn something.
Georged123
31-05-2011
Thanks JCR. I dont mind Wrestling News World, I managed to read a few of their premium stories/scoops that did actually come true.
Legacy o9
31-05-2011
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Thanks JCR. I dont mind Wrestling News World, I managed to read a few of their premium stories/scoops that did actually come true.”

Most of their stuff generally turns out true but because they leave it until its confirmed at lot of the other sites are ahead of them.

They used to be very ahead of the pack before but seem to have slowed down a bit recently.
JCR
31-05-2011
wildmovieguy, you'll be pleased to know Meltzer just rubbished that article on the Observer board. No civil war according to him.
wildmovieguy
31-05-2011
More great ratings for TNA for the week ending 22nd May 2011

1 TNA PPV TNA SACRIFICE (WED 2200) 204
2 TNA IMPACT (TUE 2158) 197

and on Challenge +1

3 TNA PPV TNA SACRIFICE (WED 2300) 25


So far more watched the PPV than Impact
Georged123
31-05-2011
Originally Posted by wildmovieguy:
“More great ratings for TNA for the week ending 22nd May 2011

1 TNA PPV TNA SACRIFICE (WED 2200) 204
2 TNA IMPACT (TUE 2158) 197

and on Challenge +1

3 TNA PPV TNA SACRIFICE (WED 2300) 25


So far more watched the PPV than Impact”

Well, no. The Saturday repeat of Impact would have probably gotten around 100,000 viewers but didnt chart so we cant be sure.
ags_rule
31-05-2011
Those are excellent viewing figures for Sacrifice, especially given the very average card. I'm a little surprised the iMPACT with Chyna and Foley's reveal didn't break the 200,000 barrier though.
wildmovieguy
31-05-2011
It could have gotten 100,000 but as it stands right now that total is over 400,000 for just 2 shows over a period of 2 days.
Curbie
01-06-2011
every week is the same

hogan and falir and eric

sting and anderson

rvd getting involved and then the pope talking crap
ags_rule
01-06-2011
I really enjoyed Impact this week, one of the best episodes in a good while. The Scorpion Sitdown was surprisingly entertaining, Mr. Anderson can be very funny at times. The Street Fight served its purpose and had a few good spots, the Kendrick/Abyss match I thought actually painted Kendrick in quite a good light, and the Angle/RVD match was as good a match as Impact have had for a long time.
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