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DejaVoodoo
16-06-2011
It had some good stuff, with AJ and Bully being really good, bar the ending.

The crowd was fairly quiet for Anderson's win. The 3 way was garbage with the stupid booking not helping it.

Crimson is green as hell. If you wanna push him ala Goldberg, keep his matches short so he doesn't get exposed.
KOE_9_ASH
17-06-2011
Next Tuesday's Impact is BRILLIANT. Just so you know.

I'm not even kidding, in any way shape or form.
Georged123
17-06-2011
Originally Posted by KOE_9_ASH:
“Next Tuesday's Impact is BRILLIANT. Just so you know.

I'm not even kidding, in any way shape or form.”

+1.

Best Impact for a long time.
JasonWatkins
17-06-2011
Remember the US pace thread kids

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1366959
Georged123
17-06-2011
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“Remember the US pace thread kids

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1366959”

Dont worry Jason, just letting people know they have something good to look forward to. No spoilers here.
KOE_9_ASH
17-06-2011
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“Remember the US pace thread kids

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1366959”

Yup. Won't be discussing until Tuesday, but seriously everyone here will be in awe of it... apart from whedon, who'll probably hate the logical 2 hours and excellent matches.

Originally Posted by Georged123:
“Dont worry Jason, just letting people know they have something good to look forward to. No spoilers here.”

It's usually people coming in and saying "Impact's sh*t this week. Don't bother." which puts you on a serious downer.

This week? Well, be excited for it.
JasonWatkins
17-06-2011
Logical 2 hours and excellent matches ?

Was Russo on holiday ?
SteelEdge
17-06-2011
After WWE's stinker of a year so far, I decided to try and get back into TNA in the last month or so, and while there are some things I do like in there, the majority of the shows feel like a real chore to get through. I recorded Slammiversary and I just can't get into it so far, I don't know what it is. The AJ/Bully match is next, which hopefully will keep my interest as I've heard good things. I really want to like TNA but I just feel a bit meh about the whole product.

In the main event you've got the dinosaur Sting, and Anderson who I absolutely detest. It's almost getting to 'X-Pac heat' with me, where I don't hate him cos he's a heel, but cos I genuinely don't want him on my tv screen! Fingers crossed it's a short reign.

The most interesting character right now is Bully Ray. I never thought I'd say this about a Dudley Boy but damn, give that guy a huge push! I'd actually like to see what he could do in a World Title feud.

With very little going on that I care about in both WWE and TNA right now, I've been watching a lot more old-school stuff on dvd and online. This morning I was watching Starrcade '93, and over the weekend I plan to watch the Randy Savage 3 disc dvd. I've been watching wrestling on Sky since 2001 and have been a fan since 1991 (albeit with a 4 year gap where I lost interest), and I cant ever remember being this disinterested in the top two promotions.
wildmovieguy
17-06-2011
TNA Impact Wrestling on Thursday, June 16 scored a 1.25 rating, bouncing back from the lowest ratings of the year the previous two weeks against the NBA Finals
too_fast_4_u
17-06-2011
Originally Posted by wildmovieguy:
“TNA Impact Wrestling on Thursday, June 16 scored a 1.25 rating, bouncing back from the lowest ratings of the year the previous two weeks against the NBA Finals”

so TNA are averaging 1.20 for the year on impact.
Raw is doing 3.41
smackdown 1.96

TNA still need a something to hook more fans to catch smackdown

i know you like ratings.

TNA
2006 0.89
2007 1.04 for the year average
2008 1.06
2009 1.14
2010 1.06
Dandem
18-06-2011
Don't know rules for spoilers round here, so I'll tag these to be on the safe side regarding Slammiversary:

Spoiler
Just got around to watching Slammiversary. The ending for the Ray/Styles match was absolutely abysmal. Styles got on his feet before he was kicked into the stage, but apparantly his count starts on 6 as Ray still needs to get up. Boggles the mind.

The X Division title match was poor too. The finish made Abyss look so weak. He needs Brian Kendrick to superkick Kaz to pick up the win. Seriously?

Mickie James botched her finisher too. So not a good night for finishes in my opinio, although the tag team finish was well done, teasing the conflict like they did between Storm and Shelley.
KOE_9_ASH
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by JasonWatkins:
“Logical 2 hours and excellent matches ?

Was Russo on holiday ? ”

I really, really hope so. That way, people can see just what it's like without him.

Originally Posted by wildmovieguy:
“TNA Impact Wrestling on Thursday, June 16 scored a 1.25 rating, bouncing back from the lowest ratings of the year the previous two weeks against the NBA Finals”

I did pinpoint the NBA as a reason why a few thousand had not watched the product a few pages back. This further adds strength to that argument.

But, with Anderson, RVD, Hogan, Flair, Bischoff, etc, a 0.1 improvement on what they were doing without must be denting some egos.
DejaVoodoo
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by KOE_9_ASH:
“I really, really hope so. That way, people can see just what it's like without him.



I did pinpoint the NBA as a reason why a few thousand had not watched the product a few pages back. This further adds strength to that argument.

But, with Anderson, RVD, Hogan, Flair, Bischoff, etc, a 0.1 improvement on what they were doing without must be denting some egos.”

It does look like the NBA Finals did dent their rating. Impact is still one of these weird shows, where not many people tape the show.
jamespondo
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by too_fast_4_u:
“so TNA are averaging 1.20 for the year on impact.
Raw is doing 3.41
smackdown 1.96

TNA still need a something to hook more fans to catch smackdown

i know you like ratings.

TNA
2006 0.89
2007 1.04 for the year average
2008 1.06
2009 1.14
2010 1.06”

I look at the viewing figures more than anything. The debut show in 2005 had 850,000 viewers. This weeks episode attracted 1.7 million, so in reality they have doubled/tripled their audience over the past 6 years. On the other hand it was in a crappy timeslot back then, only 1 hour long and they haven't been able to turn them into paying customers.
too_fast_4_u
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by jamespondo:
“I look at the viewing figures more than anything. The debut show in 2005 had 850,000 viewers. This weeks episode attracted 1.7 million, so in reality they have doubled/tripled their audience over the past 6 years. On the other hand it was in a crappy timeslot back then, only 1 hour long and they haven't been able to turn them into paying customers.”

calm down, TNA has grown since 2005 and i'm not dissing the company on it.

2010 was a step backwards thanks to the new regime that came in and failed on monday nights which damaged the ratings for a long time.

You gotta agree with me that TNA need something special to take them into the 1.30's week in week out.

Promotion and tna on the road for impact will cost money but think of the potential return money/rating wise
too_fast_4_u
18-06-2011
another point....isn't Ted turners no compete clause expired now??? I believe it was a 10year no compete clause when he sold wcw, and that is just over 10 years ago now
DejaVoodoo
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by too_fast_4_u:
“another point....isn't Ted turners no compete clause expired now??? I believe it was a 10year no compete clause when he sold wcw, and that is just over 10 years ago now”

I don't think Ted Turner is interested in getting back involved with Wrestling.
too_fast_4_u
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by DejaVoodoo:
“I don't think Ted Turner is interested in getting back involved with Wrestling.”

maybe one last chance to destroy vince

With Teds money TNA could compete with WWE
Ghost World
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by too_fast_4_u:
“another point....isn't Ted turners no compete clause expired now??? I believe it was a 10year no compete clause when he sold wcw, and that is just over 10 years ago now”

People said this in 2004 when his "3 year no-compete clause" was up, and then again in 2006 when his "5 year no-compete clause" was up.

And yet nobody seems to have hard evidence of any no-compete clause at all.
too_fast_4_u
18-06-2011
Originally Posted by Ghost World:
“People said this in 2004 when his "3 year no-compete clause" was up, and then again in 2006 when his "5 year no-compete clause" was up.

And yet nobody seems to have hard evidence of any no-compete clause at all.”

pretty sure it was a 10 year no compete clause, google might find something i suppose
JCR
18-06-2011
Ted Turner may be less keen to take risks these days given he lost $7 billion when the dotcom bubble burst apparently. Even if he started a promotion he'd have to get a TV station to show it- he doesn't have anything to do with Warner Bros anymore- which would be hard. He is 72 now and if he was going to start a promotion we'd have heard by now methinks. The reality is any such promotion would likely lose money, at least at first, so I dunno why he'd want to.
COTTONHEAT
19-06-2011
What Paul Heyman Would Have Done In TNA
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...4/paul-heyman/
mark.3.shepherd
19-06-2011
Originally Posted by COTTONHEAT:
“What Paul Heyman Would Have Done In TNA
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/...4/paul-heyman/”

I agree with every word he said
wildmovieguy
19-06-2011
Paul Heyman is known for losing money. He would have turned TNA into a show very similar to what you would see in the indie circuit, now i'll admit it would be something different but the way he talks he makes it sound like as long you do something no one else is doing eventually that will garuntee success which really isn't the case. His ECW became famous for being completely different to the big 2 in America but when you strip all the violence back there really isn't much else to see. At least with TNA, their formula may be dated (as is WWE's who to this day are still using a formula Eric Bischoff made famous) but the ingredients for a successful show are there and quite a lot of times they get it right, just like this weeks Impact but it just goes to show it doesnt matter how many times you get the formula right if all those other things aren't in place (promotions,advertising, awareness) then no one is ever gonna watch or take notice.
too_fast_4_u
19-06-2011
Originally Posted by wildmovieguy:
“Paul Heyman is known for losing money.”

didn't easy e lose 62million dollars in one year with WCW??

Its easy for anyone to say how they could turn tna around but like you and i have both said, without advertising and promotion the company wont grow
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