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ags_rule
11-10-2011
RVD vs. Lynn in FMM might just steal the show.
KOE_9_ASH
11-10-2011
Originally Posted by ogryn:
“Did any one else realise that Extreme Sports is showing a "Best of TNA" show after Impact on a Sunday night?”

Yup. Last week was Angle. This week was AJ. Got it on a series link for recording. TNA did nothing to plug it, apart from a Facebook plug the week AFTER it had aired.

Production is quite basic, but isn't the whole of TNA's TV stuff? The title of "Greatest" isn't exactly true either, as the Angle one last week only had three matches from the Hogschoff era, whereas his GREATEST match in TNA was against Samoa Joe at Lockdown. By FAR.

Originally Posted by Djr2006:
“WHAT I LIKEDI was glad when Kid Kash whacked him.”

Crazy bitch-slap, that. I always used to cringe at Scott Hall's right hands, but that was a pure SLAP! Probably sounded a lot worse than it was (cupping your hand does that) but hell, it was arguably the best move of the show! Ha!
seibu
11-10-2011
I always used to defend Hogan on TNA, but on Sunday I finally saw everybody's point. I feel bad for him, 'cause that back looks so painful. But if you're at the point where you can't bump *at all*, surely it's time to get off a wrestling show. What's the point in him being there? If he can't do a match he can't even put over the younger guys, which was surely the only really justifiable reason to hire him.

Loved Gunner Kaz this week.
jamespondo
12-10-2011
Hogan's 'acting' performance in the last few moments of Impact was really quite bad. I always knew he was a poor actor, but damn!
too_fast_4_u
12-10-2011
Originally Posted by seibu:
“I always used to defend Hogan on TNA, but on Sunday I finally saw everybody's point. I feel bad for him, 'cause that back looks so painful. But if you're at the point where you can't bump *at all*, surely it's time to get off a wrestling show. What's the point in him being there? If he can't do a match he can't even put over the younger guys, which was surely the only really justifiable reason to hire him.

Loved Gunner Kaz this week.”

Agree but the mans ego is huge and its damaging the product

Originally Posted by jamespondo:
“Hogan's 'acting' performance in the last few moments of Impact was really quite bad. I always knew he was a poor actor, but damn!”

Hogan's acting = poor tv but just seen the ratings for the show in the US and it was the highest segment on impact.

The show only did a 1.0 (thats like 2008 numbers) but hogans speech did a 1.08 so no doubt they'll look at the figures and say "brother i've still got it and need to be the main attraction in tna brother"
whedon247
12-10-2011
it was the best segment of the show even with hogans terrible acting at the very end

"ooops"
hemightydave
12-10-2011
I cant see him getting a nod at this years Oscars!
KOE_9_ASH
12-10-2011
I thought his face promo was quite good. Once Sting came out, he sort of crumbled. Sting's good at following the script. Hogan really isn't.

I've noticed that some instances of the BFG card say "Hogan fights Sting" rather than the rest of the match formats that say "Roode vs. Angle", for example. Just as well, because this won't be a wrestling match.
ags_rule
12-10-2011
Originally Posted by KOE_9_ASH:
“I thought his face promo was quite good. Once Sting came out, he sort of crumbled. Sting's good at following the script. Hogan really isn't.

I've noticed that some instances of the BFG card say "Hogan fights Sting" rather than the rest of the match formats that say "Roode vs. Angle", for example. Just as well, because this won't be a wrestling match.”

It's No DQ so I expect to see Sting taking a few basic bumps, maybe through a table or something more violent. Hogan has gone on record as saying that he won't take any bumps, but he's never been shy of blading and I imagine he will be wearing a crimson mask by the time the match is over.

It could be car-crash TV, but with the right booking they can make it passable.
KOE_9_ASH
12-10-2011
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“It's No DQ so I expect to see Sting taking a few basic bumps, maybe through a table or something more violent. Hogan has gone on record as saying that he won't take any bumps, but he's never been shy of blading and I imagine he will be wearing a crimson mask by the time the match is over.

It could be car-crash TV, but with the right booking they can make it passable.”

I totally think it can be made passable. Hogan will be relying on Sting to carry him and, even as a Sting fan, I know he can't carry much of anything these days.

In an ideal world, I'd have two or three segments of Sting trying to find Hogan, with the last one being when the match is scheduled to start. Sting finds him, drags him kicking and screaming to the ring, completely obliterating him on the way, getting him in the Deathlock at the end, with Immortal all running down to interfere and Fortune cutting them off. Sting wins, Fortune, Sting and Dixie celebrate, cut a promo on the control of the company, and wish for Robert Roode to pull the final hat out of the bag by winning the title in the Main Event. Which happens, and Bound for Glory gives us all a reason to celebrate.
Ebo_Elder
12-10-2011
Fun. That is what they'll be trying to achieve in their match. They are not going for a wrestling clinic, for a five star technical bound match and anyone grading them on that is silly and confused. Like WrestleMania- Every show has to have balance of wrestling and light hearted entertainment, and this match is the latter. It is that VKM/BretHart or BigShow/Mayweather type marquee match that is going to attract.

I have friends who have no interest in watching TNA, but when they heard of HulkHogan and Sting fighting, they were in and they are buying the show for those guys. I'm looking forward to it and i know it'll deliver what i want: Fun. I'm not buying into Meltzer and Alvarez's sensationalistic view that it will be hurrendous because it is funny to dog on things and always look for the negative.

IJust wish Hogan the best. I've met the dude and he is a sweet man, so good luck to him.

Sting beating Hogan and Dixie returning at BFG is the only way they will go. It'd be the feel good moment.
JCR
13-10-2011
I'd guess Hogan will turn babyface and win. He's publicly said he's not taking any bumps in this match, quite how that's gonna work I do not know.
too_fast_4_u
13-10-2011
i expect a blood fest and hogan to pass out and the match will finish like that
whedon247
13-10-2011
Originally Posted by Ebo_Elder:
“Fun. That is what they'll be trying to achieve in their match. They are not going for a wrestling clinic, for a five star technical bound match and anyone grading them on that is silly and confused. Like WrestleMania- Every show has to have balance of wrestling and light hearted entertainment, and this match is the latter. It is that VKM/BretHart or BigShow/Mayweather type marquee match that is going to attract.

I have friends who have no interest in watching TNA, but when they heard of HulkHogan and Sting fighting, they were in and they are buying the show for those guys. I'm looking forward to it and i know it'll deliver what i want: Fun. I'm not buying into Meltzer and Alvarez's sensationalistic view that it will be hurrendous because it is funny to dog on things and always look for the negative.

IJust wish Hogan the best. I've met the dude and he is a sweet man, so good luck to him.

Sting beating Hogan and Dixie returning at BFG is the only way they will go. It'd be the feel good moment.”

OH MY BROTHER....TESTIFY!
ags_rule
13-10-2011
Dixie has said she will be at BFG, whether Sting wins or loses.

Hogan has done a lot of press for the event over the past couple of days, he has pushed Angle/Roode as the official main event but said that his "brawl/fight" with Sting will close the show. Sounds like they're going for it as a sort of non-sanctioned match, like HBK's return match.

He named Jeff Hardy and AJ Styles as "the future" of TNA.

He stressed that he "hoped" this would be his final match.
KOE_9_ASH
13-10-2011
Originally Posted by Ebo_Elder:
“Fun. That is what they'll be trying to achieve in their match. They are not going for a wrestling clinic, for a five star technical bound match and anyone grading them on that is silly and confused. Like WrestleMania- Every show has to have balance of wrestling and light hearted entertainment, and this match is the latter. It is that VKM/BretHart or BigShow/Mayweather type marquee match that is going to attract.

I have friends who have no interest in watching TNA, but when they heard of HulkHogan and Sting fighting, they were in and they are buying the show for those guys. I'm looking forward to it and i know it'll deliver what i want: Fun. I'm not buying into Meltzer and Alvarez's sensationalistic view that it will be hurrendous because it is funny to dog on things and always look for the negative.

IJust wish Hogan the best. I've met the dude and he is a sweet man, so good luck to him.

Sting beating Hogan and Dixie returning at BFG is the only way they will go. It'd be the feel good moment.”

Well said, here. Apart from "hurrnedous."

I won't be basing it off technical ability, but there's still a lot of storytelling (which Hogan keeps banging on about TNA stars not doing enough of) as well as the whole thing making sense.

It is a great thing to have for nostalgic reasons, and makes a change having a sane person telling people that a match with this sort of star power MUST be on a PPV, and not on free TV with thousands of run-ins, and while I think the PPV match will have run-ins, I really hope they aren't going to water it down with them. As said before one spurt of Immortal and Fortune battling for a moment, allowing a quick break in the "fight" between Sting and Hogan.

Originally Posted by JCR:
“I'd guess Hogan will turn babyface and win. He's publicly said he's not taking any bumps in this match, quite how that's gonna work I do not know.”

This isn't a bad call. I'd expect TNA to do this. Build up this feud so hard, then have Hogan come out in jeans and a shirt, saying he's sorry for what he's done and gives the company back to Dixie, with Sting just on the ramp going "WTF?!"

Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“He named Jeff Hardy and AJ Styles as "the future" of TNA.

He stressed that he "hoped" this would be his final match.”

It's funny that Hogan thinks people are listening to him, when everyone already knows AJ is the current AND the future of the company.
fuzzbuzz1234
13-10-2011
Originally Posted by ags_rule:
“He named Jeff Hardy and AJ Styles as "the future" of TNA.”

That comment is hilarious by Hogan. Styles has been there from the start, how many more years does he have to go before he IS considered the top guy.

Also funny the contrast between the two wrestlers - one busted his ass for the company since day one and has gotten relatively little reward, while the other has complete apathy for the product and gets showered with attention & money.
KOE_9_ASH
13-10-2011
Originally Posted by fuzzbuzz1234:
“Also funny the contrast between the two wrestlers - one busted his ass for the company since day one and has gotten relatively little reward, while the other has complete apathy for the product and gets showered with attention & money.”

THISSSS!
jamespondo
14-10-2011
The likes of Hogan, Nash and Flair love to push the 'these guys are the future' angle to make themselves seem relevant and still the main stars. The fact is, if mid 30's guys Hardy and Styles aren't now they never will be!

Problem is, from day one TNA has done such a half arsed job of making their under 35 headline stars come across as headline stars that a casual fan could easily believe TNA is the golden oldies show. Although, they've done a decent-ish job this year of rectifying that. The Roode push has been superb, the ever improving Crimson has been given everything and Bully Ray is the best natural heel in years.
KOE_9_ASH
14-10-2011
Did you just put Bully Ray in that list? While he's an excellent heel, he's not and never should be pushed to a main attraction, unlike Crimson and Roode.
DejaVoodoo
14-10-2011
Originally Posted by KOE_9_ASH:
“Did you just put Bully Ray in that list? While he's an excellent heel, he's not and never should be pushed to a main attraction, unlike Crimson and Roode.”

The bigger issue is would fans buy Bully Ray as a top guy. Once you get viewed by fans at a certain level for so many years it's difficult to change that barring something major.

I think Roode is a top level guy and TNA have done a very good job of portraying him as such. James Storm is another top level guy if they invest time and effort in him.

I can see why they think Crimson can be a top guy, but I think he's nowhere near ready enough in the ring or on promos to be a top guy.

Sting vs Hogan will be a dog and pony show with weapons and run ins a plenty to try and disguise the fact that Hogan ain't taking bumps. It will probably be alright for what it is.
ags_rule
14-10-2011
Bully Ray is an excellent heel, but I'm still bitter that he was booked to beat Styles in the Last Man Standing match after AJ pulled off that incredible dive through the table, only to be Russo-fied and lose the match.

Have to hand it to TNA, they have booked the lead-in to BFG rather well, particularly Roode/Angle which I'm sure will be a superb encounter. Fair play to Hogan as well, he's done a lot of promo this past week and could have easily went about selling BFG as the 'Hogan vs. Sting' show, but he has made sure to clarify that Roode/Angle is the main attraction.
ollie_c
14-10-2011
Dave Lagana has joined TNA's writing staff!!!

Quote:
“Former WWE creative team member Dave Lagana has joined the TNA creative division as the Director of Creative Writing. "I leave Ring of Honor Wrestling to tackle new challenges," Lagana wrote on his website. "I’ve accepted a position as Director of Creative Writing with TNA Wrestling.

"My duties will be to focus solely on the development of new wrestling shows beyond the Impact Wrestling show. I’m excited to see what the future holds and thank everyone for the support over not only the last nine months of this site but through my entire career." To read the full blog, visitIWantWrestling.com.

Powell's POV: Lagana was with WWE from 2002 to 2008. Paul Heyman wanted to bring Lagana and Gabe Sapolsky with him to TNA when he was negotiating with Dixie Carter. TNA would also be wise to use Lagana for his social media knowledge. It's worth noting that Lagana worked with Bruce Prichard while both men were in WWE.”

Source: http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/p...10021295.shtml
stillgotabox
15-10-2011
Quote:
“New TNA creative staff member Dave Lagana will not be writing the Impact Wrestling television show. Rather, his initial duties will involve a project in India that TNA is working on, and the All Wheels Wrestling offshoot.”

http://www.prowrestling.net/artman/p...10021298.shtml
KOE_9_ASH
15-10-2011
If they use him for AWW and India, then it's a waste of talent. So, typical TNA, then?
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