New iPhone

Gary Glimmer · 27-01-2011, 18:09

whatever it is, it will claim to have invented something new, like apps or video calling or some other brand new innovation that Nokia and other companies have been doing for many years already. lol @ the sheep.

davethorp · 27-01-2011, 18:26

So refreshing to see another thread speculating about this years iPhone start to go the same way as all the other threads

Wait no refreshing isn't the word now is it?

Matt D · 27-01-2011, 19:51

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/14/e...-apple-tv-and/

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/16/...dual-core-gpu/

The iPhone 5 is rumoured to have an Apple "A5" system-on-a-chip, containing a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU and a PowerVR SGX543 GPU.

The current "A4" in the iPhone 4 & iPad 1 uses an ARM Cortex-A8 and a PowerVR SGX535.

The Geek · 27-01-2011, 20:00

Should be released in june.

Eejit · 27-01-2011, 20:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Geek

Should be released in june.

Barring the apocalypse, it will be released in June for sure. Apple is nothing if not predictable.

The A5 processor is launching in the iPad too this spring, and then it'll be in the iPhone 5 in Summer, and the new iPod Touch and Apple TV in the autumn.

Other than that I'm guessing it probably won't be a massive update on the hardware side (though who knows…). Probably more concentrating on a big new version of iOS.

alanwarwic · 27-01-2011, 20:50

We are all still guessing.

The A4 made by Samsung for Apple was essentially a cut down Galaxy S Hummingbird chipset.
Is the A5 this time a full Samsung Orion?

Better than Tegra 2 by the sounds of it.
Tegra 3 will be out soon too.

Eejit · 27-01-2011, 21:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanwarwic

We are all still guessing.

The A4 made by Samsung for Apple was essentially a cut down Galaxy S Hummingbird chipset.

Not really. They are both based on the same chipset and based around a Cortex-A8 CPU core. Apple's A4, of course, was designed to concentrate on power management and battery life, which never seems to be a Samsung priority.

Neither is 'better' than the other, just different.

Though of course, the iOS devices actually have high quality games and the like which make use of the power of the chip, unlike some of their competitors...

I imagine the A5 will again focus on power management and battery life (though with obvious boosts in terms of CPU and GPU).

MTUK1 · 27-01-2011, 23:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by david.boobis

There will be a new iPhone out this year, but most likely it'll be a minor spec bump similar to 3G to 3GS. I'd imagine a move to a 1.2GHz processor, more efficient battery, possibly a move to 1GB ram and a camera bump. Not a lot more they can meddle with.

Next year is when they'll introduce a dual-core processor and 1080p video, when it's standard in every other smartphone so all the fans can say "it might be standard but Apple are the first to do it properly". Dual core chips are too expensive at the moment for Apple to maintain their insane margins, thus I seriously doubt the move will be this year.

I also reckon they'll re design it without the antenna on the outside like the 4. There is no way they'll want to go through the publicity again. Although the it hasn't affected sales at all. I love mine!

Eejit · 27-01-2011, 23:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by MTUK1

I also reckon they'll re design it without the antenna on the outside like the 4. There is no way they'll want to go through the publicity again. Although the it hasn't affected sales at all. I love mine!

They might tweek it, but it was always a bit of a non-story in the first place, and it doesn't seem to have affected sales one bit, much to some people's disappointment.

Of course, who knows what Jony Ive is cooking up…

davethorp · 28-01-2011, 10:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eejit

They might tweek it, but it was always a bit of a non-story in the first place, and it doesn't seem to have affected sales one bit, much to some people's disappointment.

It certainly wasn't a non story in the eyes of some people on here. They proceeded to make a big deal of it for months in spite of never having touched the phone themselves or that in order to reproduce the issue you have to hold the phone in a silly way no sane person would

Of course the same people were also unable to answer a basic question about the consumer reports data they liked banging on about

alanwarwic · 28-01-2011, 13:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eejit

... which never seems to be a Samsung priority.

Neither is 'better' than the other, just different.

It was probably timing in that the Galaxy S came slightly later than the iPhone 4..
The Galaxy S uses the SGX540 whereas the iPhone used the SGX535.
The Samsung Orion is supposedly using the new ARM Mali 400 GPU which Samsung claim 500% faster useing multi core to get close to the current power house more mid size Tegra 2.

It would be a fundamental change for Apple to drop SGX.

27-01-2011, 18:09	#26
Gary Glimmer Inactive Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 196	whatever it is, it will claim to have invented something new, like apps or video calling or some other brand new innovation that Nokia and other companies have been doing for many years already. lol @ the sheep.

27-01-2011, 18:26	#27
davethorp Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire Posts: 7,255	So refreshing to see another thread speculating about this years iPhone start to go the same way as all the other threads Wait no refreshing isn't the word now is it?

27-01-2011, 19:51	#28
Matt D Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Posts: 13,064	http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/14/e...-apple-tv-and/ http://www.macrumors.com/2011/01/16/...dual-core-gpu/ The iPhone 5 is rumoured to have an Apple "A5" system-on-a-chip, containing a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU and a PowerVR SGX543 GPU. The current "A4" in the iPhone 4 & iPad 1 uses an ARM Cortex-A8 and a PowerVR SGX535.

27-01-2011, 20:00	#29
The Geek Guest Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,438	Should be released in june.

27-01-2011, 20:09	#30
Eejit Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,106	Quote: Originally Posted by The Geek Should be released in june. Barring the apocalypse, it will be released in June for sure. Apple is nothing if not predictable. The A5 processor is launching in the iPad too this spring, and then it'll be in the iPhone 5 in Summer, and the new iPod Touch and Apple TV in the autumn. Other than that I'm guessing it probably won't be a massive update on the hardware side (though who knows…). Probably more concentrating on a big new version of iOS.

27-01-2011, 20:50	#31
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	We are all still guessing. The A4 made by Samsung for Apple was essentially a cut down Galaxy S Hummingbird chipset. Is the A5 this time a full Samsung Orion? Better than Tegra 2 by the sounds of it. Tegra 3 will be out soon too.

27-01-2011, 21:25	#32
Eejit Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,106	Quote: Originally Posted by alanwarwic We are all still guessing. The A4 made by Samsung for Apple was essentially a cut down Galaxy S Hummingbird chipset. Not really. They are both based on the same chipset and based around a Cortex-A8 CPU core. Apple's A4, of course, was designed to concentrate on power management and battery life, which never seems to be a Samsung priority. Neither is 'better' than the other, just different. Though of course, the iOS devices actually have high quality games and the like which make use of the power of the chip, unlike some of their competitors... I imagine the A5 will again focus on power management and battery life (though with obvious boosts in terms of CPU and GPU).

27-01-2011, 23:20	#33
MTUK1 Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 19,783	Quote: Originally Posted by david.boobis There will be a new iPhone out this year, but most likely it'll be a minor spec bump similar to 3G to 3GS. I'd imagine a move to a 1.2GHz processor, more efficient battery, possibly a move to 1GB ram and a camera bump. Not a lot more they can meddle with. Next year is when they'll introduce a dual-core processor and 1080p video, when it's standard in every other smartphone so all the fans can say "it might be standard but Apple are the first to do it properly". Dual core chips are too expensive at the moment for Apple to maintain their insane margins, thus I seriously doubt the move will be this year. I also reckon they'll re design it without the antenna on the outside like the 4. There is no way they'll want to go through the publicity again. Although the it hasn't affected sales at all. I love mine!

27-01-2011, 23:52	#34
Eejit Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4,106	Quote: Originally Posted by MTUK1 I also reckon they'll re design it without the antenna on the outside like the 4. There is no way they'll want to go through the publicity again. Although the it hasn't affected sales at all. I love mine! They might tweek it, but it was always a bit of a non-story in the first place, and it doesn't seem to have affected sales one bit, much to some people's disappointment. Of course, who knows what Jony Ive is cooking up…

28-01-2011, 10:15	#35
davethorp Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Preston, Lancashire Posts: 7,255	Quote: Originally Posted by Eejit They might tweek it, but it was always a bit of a non-story in the first place, and it doesn't seem to have affected sales one bit, much to some people's disappointment. It certainly wasn't a non story in the eyes of some people on here. They proceeded to make a big deal of it for months in spite of never having touched the phone themselves or that in order to reproduce the issue you have to hold the phone in a silly way no sane person would Of course the same people were also unable to answer a basic question about the consumer reports data they liked banging on about

28-01-2011, 13:40	#36
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Quote: Originally Posted by Eejit ... which never seems to be a Samsung priority. Neither is 'better' than the other, just different. It was probably timing in that the Galaxy S came slightly later than the iPhone 4.. The Galaxy S uses the SGX540 whereas the iPhone used the SGX535. The Samsung Orion is supposedly using the new ARM Mali 400 GPU which Samsung claim 500% faster useing multi core to get close to the current power house more mid size Tegra 2. It would be a fundamental change for Apple to drop SGX.

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