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Old 28-01-2011, 13:18
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I've been saving and want to spend some of my notes on something fun and I've seen a few reasonably priced LED TV's.

Obviously they are much thinner, use less power and weigh less than a normal LCD tv but it is worth paying more for the LED variety.

These are the ones I've seen -

Sony KDL40EX713U
Samsung UE40C5800QKXXU
Samsung UE40C6530UKXXU

Whats your opinion?
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Old 28-01-2011, 13:23
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I've always preferred plasma to LCD, blacks seem richer and colours more vibrant. I'm looking forward to real LED TV's developing in the next few years tho, which those you listed aren't, they're just LED backlit LCDs.
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Old 28-01-2011, 13:33
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Go and see them in the shops, see what you think - but in my opinion LED/LCD TV's are mainly just thinner than the CCFL/LCD ones - if you're not wall mounting it, there seems little point.
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Old 28-01-2011, 15:15
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the picture quality on LCD / LED is amazing, when watching blueray,its adds another dimension to the films, colours are spot on, and look really classy. i use to have Plasma, and LCD, i know the LED is only back lite, but still blasts any other plasma or stand lcd out fo the water well worth getting and worth every penny in my opinion

this is what i purchased

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsu...0090502147.htm
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Old 28-01-2011, 16:40
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I've only compared LED backlit panels to CCD backlit panels on laptops but generally they go up to brighter levels, are thinner and run cooled.
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Old 28-01-2011, 17:00
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OLED is the next big step, not plain LED.
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Old 28-01-2011, 17:07
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OLED is the next big step, not plain LED.
Except OLED is the 'technology that never was' - will it EVER actually arrive, and will it be cost effective (and will it give any picture improvement)?

There have been a few small OLED sets, at HUGE prices - but no real signs of large ones.
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Old 28-01-2011, 18:26
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a bit like how LCD started then.
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Old 28-01-2011, 20:33
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a bit like how LCD started then.
Not really, LCD appeared almost without notice, OLED has been promised for more years than I care to think - I hate to think how many billions have been spent trying to make it practical.

As far as I'm aware OLED was 'coming soon' well back before LCD TV's were available.
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Old 29-01-2011, 02:19
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LED is just a backlight. The quality of the lcd panel is far more important. The cheapest netbooks with horrible screens are led backlit, hell what do you think your cellphone lcd has been all these years, even the most garbage were led for quite a while now.

It all depends on how much you pay. And what you need to use it for, and where. Led is good for super bright rooms where you have to out compete the sun iif you watch a lot of tv during the day. Cheap leds edge lit and that has its own artifacts from the fact that the light is pin point sourced and uneven. But led has good marketing, people literally think they are made up of leds I guess. Pound for pound you can get better image quality from a higher end plasma though. You aren't going to get super dense backlight arrays for led until the super high end, lower end is just edge lit vanity type engineering.
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Old 29-01-2011, 02:21
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Not really, LCD appeared almost without notice, OLED has been promised for more years than I care to think - I hate to think how many billions have been spent trying to make it practical.

As far as I'm aware OLED was 'coming soon' well back before LCD TV's were available.
Yea one i sabout as likely to get SED tv's. That tech is practically still born. Cost too much for too little screen, and probably can't last long enough to pass muster.
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Old 29-01-2011, 14:48
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I've been saving and want to spend some of my notes on something fun and I've seen a few reasonably priced LED TV's.

Obviously they are much thinner, use less power and weigh less than a normal LCD tv but it is worth paying more for the LED variety.

These are the ones I've seen -

Sony KDL40EX713U
Samsung UE40C5800QKXXU
Samsung UE40C6530UKXXU

Whats your opinion?
My friend recently bought the Samsung UE40C6530. One amazing TV! Picture quality is one of the best I've seen yet from a HDTV. Go for it mate!
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Old 29-01-2011, 15:08
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Plasma is still picture king if you look properly. LED is great and true LED's are better however they still suffer from colour and light issues at angles- they can also kill blacks and generate a halo effect as well as bleed and clouding too. Motion control is better but not as good as Plasma.

Plasma also offers a natural picture- this is still true today. LCD and LED have improved but the colour still has a "digitalness"

two things LCD and LED have going for them is power consumption and brightness in sunny rooms.
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Old 29-01-2011, 18:11
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I've been saving and want to spend some of my notes on something fun and I've seen a few reasonably priced LED TV's.

Obviously they are much thinner, use less power and weigh less than a normal LCD tv but it is worth paying more for the LED variety.

These are the ones I've seen -

Sony KDL40EX713U
Samsung UE40C5800QKXXU
Samsung UE40C6530UKXXU

Whats your opinion?
if you go Samsung, make sure its with a five year guarantee,parts are difficult after a couple of years.
as my friends have found to their cost
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Old 29-01-2011, 18:19
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if you go Samsung, make sure its with a five year guarantee,parts are difficult after a couple of years.
as my friends have found to their cost
Also beware of 'blooming' or 'spotlighting'. I have a Sammy 46" LED and the corners can look atrotious, especially if the programme is letterboxed.
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Old 30-01-2011, 02:25
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Except OLED is the 'technology that never was' - will it EVER actually arrive, and will it be cost effective (and will it give any picture improvement)?

There have been a few small OLED sets, at HUGE prices - but no real signs of large ones.
Hmm LG are almost certainly going to be introducing a 31" OLED to the UK this year:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/tvs/re...1in-OLED-TV/p1

They have also hinted that bigger OLED TV's are going to follow pretty quickly with a 55" TV being promised for 2012:
http://hdtvorg.co.uk/news/articles/2011011101.htm

prices of course will be extortionate for the first couple of years (especially if LG are the only ones to come to market) but like everything these prices will quickly become a bit more mainstream relatively quickly.

As for LED giving better results than a decent plasma - I think that most experts would disagree with that as would the manufacturers if they were honest. Whilst they may look good in a bright showroom displaying high def cartoons in real money they can't live with plasma in day to day viewing imho.
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Old 30-01-2011, 02:47
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Promises promises, we've heard them all before. Even if it does come out it won't be affordable for a decade.
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Old 30-01-2011, 08:12
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Promises promises, we've heard them all before. Even if it does come out it won't be affordable for a decade.
Even though we don't have a price yet, the PSP2 (NGP) is using a 5inch OLED Screen (960x540) and will be mass produced, so perhaps that will help bring the technology price down.
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Old 30-01-2011, 09:46
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Maybe, I just have zero faith in the psp or handhelds anymore, esp at that high a price.
It just seems like a technology that has no place anymore.
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Old 30-01-2011, 19:00
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Maybe, I just have zero faith in the psp or handhelds anymore, esp at that high a price.
It just seems like a technology that has no place anymore.
Well like it or not this technology is coming to market - and I would say that LG producing a consumer 31" TV for release this year is a pretty good indicator that it is a viable technology.
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Old 30-01-2011, 19:20
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Well like it or not this technology is coming to market - and I would say that LG producing a consumer 31" TV for release this year is a pretty good indicator that it is a viable technology.
How many times has that been promised before?, promises of OLED sets coming out 'next year' have been around since before LCD or Plasma.
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Old 30-01-2011, 22:01
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I've always preferred plasma to LCD, blacks seem richer and colours more vibrant.
I beg to differ.

I like LCD. My LCD set has a very dark matt black screen. Being matt, means I'm not troubled with reflections of bright objects (like used to be an issue with CRT sets) And being very dark black, means you can get very black blacks in the picture.

In comparison, I did try a Plasma. It had a lightish grey shiny glass front. Although nice and flat, the shiny front gave problems with reflections from bright objects in the room, and the lightis grey meant that "black" could never be darker than the lightish grey, again just like CRT sets used to be.

I DO accept the colours seemed more natural though.

But on balance, I prefer LCD so the plasma set went.
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Old 30-01-2011, 22:25
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Well like it or not this technology is coming to market - and I would say that LG producing a consumer 31" TV for release this year is a pretty good indicator that it is a viable technology.
It is coming to market sure, the psp came to market and flopped. Remember psp movie format?

Just barely eh? Came to market and flopped...
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Old 30-01-2011, 22:34
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It is coming to market sure, the psp came to market and flopped. Remember psp movie format?

Just barely eh? Came to market and flopped...
UMD Movies died because, well, UMD itself as a format sucked.

The PSP hasn't "died", it's not done well here or in America, but it was the best selling console in Japan for 2010.
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Old 30-01-2011, 22:50
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Not really, LCD appeared almost without notice
Oh come on, I had an LCD display on calculators and pocket computers all the way back in the 80's. It took another 20 years to get to colour panels for computers. It didn't spring out of nowhere. The first computer monitors had slow refresh rates and awful smearing - I had the displeasure of using an early one.
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