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Old 01-05-2013, 15:46
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I always feel as though I should put The Horns of Nimon in both lists, it's a guilty pleasure.

I could watch this on a loop for an hour or two - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRUqJSCOyZ4

Or the remix... - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98MxxpzIoyg
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Old 27-05-2013, 17:57
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ok I just watched underworld since my last post. Episode 1 is quite good but the rest are just shit. Episode 1 sets the scene ok but the following three episodes just dont make sense to me. Who is supposed to the the villian? and its not just that. Acting is poor too and effects urgh....

Anyway

Top 20 ( Best)

1 The Talons of Weng Chiang
2 The Pyramids of Mars
3 The Seeds of Doom
4 City of Death
5 Genesis of the Daleks
6 The Ribos Operation
7 Terror of the Zygons
8 Horror of Fang Rock
9 The Keeper of Traken
11 The Androids of Tara
12 The Sontaran Experiment
13 Shada
14 The Deadly Assassin
15 The Face of Evil
16 The Android Invasion
17 The Ark in Space
18 The Stones of Blood
19 The Power of Kroll
20 The Revenge of the Cybermen/ Brain of Morbius

Worst 5

1 Underworld ( worst)
2 The Armageddon Factor
3 The Pirate Planet
4 Logopolis
5 The Leisure Hive

Season Rankings

1 Season 13
2 Season 14
3 Season 12
4 Season 16
5 Season 17
6 Season 18
7 Season 15

Companions

1 = Sarah Jane
1 = Romana I
3 Romana 2
4 Leela
5 Harry Sullivan
6 K.9
7 Adric
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Old 27-05-2013, 17:58
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Ive Probaly forgotten a few I havent seen for ages but I will keep my order like this for the moment
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Old 29-05-2013, 01:51
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1 The Talons of Weng Chiang
2 The Pyramids of Mars
3 City of Death
4 The Seeds of Doom
5 Genesis of the Daleks
6 The Ribos Operation
7 Terror of the Zygons
8 Horror of Fang Rock
9 Shada
10 The Androids of Tara
11 The Deadly Assassin/ Invasion of Time
12 The Android Invasion
13 The Sontaran Experiment
14 The Ark in Space

I still haven't watched the Invisable Enemy,Image of Fendahl or the Sun Makers. I watched episode 1 of Image, its sorta meh. I thought it would waste my time and really there could be better Doctor Whos to watch. Its not exactly highly praised.

Worst would be about the same

1 Underworld - Episode 1 is decent but the rest dont make sence and are poorly acted. I enjoyed Episode 1 though.

2 The Armgeddon Factor - Padded, shit writing, and a crape villian too. The shadow is such an awful villian. Do you see the way he loses? The Doctor just picks up the Key to Time and thats it. Also a weak conclusion, the Key to Time is sent back into the original places which means that the quest was pointless in the first place.

3 The Pirate Planet - I find it hard to enjoy this one. The captain is a little bit OTT and the plot is so far fetched. But its much better than the two above I'll give it that.

4 Logopolis - Tom Baker looks incongruous because peter davidsons companions are making themselves at home. The plot is just a bit weird. The watcher stuff dosent really do it for me and the ending is weak too. How is the unerverse saved despite the Logopolons ( or whatever they are called) being all dead?

5 The Leisure Hive - Its basically they tried to make it look nice but it was a shite story to work on. The way they die is weird too, Marbles fall out of their hair.



Why does everyone hate the Invasion of Time its quite a cool story and Tom Baker seems like hes enjoying himself too. Or maybe its that is was my second Tom Baker story for me to see. I do like the robots of death but I havent watched it for a long time so I cant put it into my favourites section.

It seems like I'm doing a new order everytime But the thing is that I can't make up my mind. I mean I can say which ones I like and dislike but putting them in order is so hard for me. But maybe nobody gives a shit so I will probelly stop the changing mind thing.

Companions

1 Sarah Jane
2 Romana 2
3 Romana 1
4 Leela
5 Harry Sulivan
6 K.9
7 Adric

Leela is not the best Tom Baker girl but is still my 7th best Doctor Who Companion of all time.
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Old 29-05-2013, 01:57
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I always feel as though I should put The Horns of Nimon in both lists, it's a guilty pleasure.

I could watch this on a loop for an hour or two - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRUqJSCOyZ4

Or the remix... - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98MxxpzIoyg
Yes it is very much a guilty pleasure. I don't think its that, bad the idea is actually quite solid even though theres some dodgey acting in it its still ok. Its not a classic though.
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Old 29-05-2013, 02:23
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Best

01) Pyramids of Mars
02) Talons of Weng Chiang
03) Genesis of the Daleks
04) Robots of Death
05) Terror of the Zygons
06) City of Death
07) Seeds of Doom
08) Image of the Fendahl
09) Horror of Fang Rock
10) Brain of Morbius
11) Stones of Blood
12) Ark in Space
13) Logopollis
14) Deadly Assassin
15) Keeper of Traken

Worst

01) Underworld
02) Invasion of Time
03) Armageddon Factor
04) Pirate Planet
05) Meglos
06) Warriors Gate
07) Invisible Enermy
08) Creature from the Pit
09) Horns of Nimon
10) Leisure Hive
11) Nightmare of Eden
12) Destiny of the Daleks
13) The Sunmakers
14) Power of Kroll
15) Planet of Evil
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Old 29-05-2013, 08:41
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Best:
Talons Of Weng Chiang
Pyramids of Mars
Terror of the Zygons
Horror of Fang Rock
Masque of Mandragora
Image of the Fendahl
Genesis of the Daleks


By far and away the worst:
Warrior's Gate
Meglos
Leisure Hive
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Old 29-05-2013, 08:58
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Ok before I go and say my order I havent seen the following stories...

The Invisable Enemy, Image of Fendahl, The Sun Makers and Underworld

Ok now my order

1 The Deadly Assassin

2 The Seeds of Doom

3 The Talons Weng Chiang

4 The Android Invasion

5 The City of Death

6 The Invasion of Time

7 Genesis of the Daleks

8 Shada

9 The Ribos Operation

10 The Creature from the Pit

11 The Stones of Blood

12 The Androids of Tara

13 Revenge of the Cybermen

14 Ark in Space

15 The Hand of Fear

16 Meglos

17 Terror of the Zygons

18 State of Decay


Seasons

Season 12

1 Genesis of the Daleks
2 Revenge of the Cybermen
3 The Ark in Space
4 The Sontaran Experiment
5 Robot

Season 13

1 The Seeds of Doom
2 The Android Invasion
3 Terror of the Zygons
4 The Brain of Morbius
5 Pyramids of Mars
6 Planet of Evil

Season 14

1 The Deadly Assassin
2 The Talons of Weng Chiang
3 The Hand of Fear
4 The Robots of Death
5 The Face of Evil
6 The Masque of Mandragora

Season 15

1 Invasion of Time
2 Horror Fang Rock
MORE TO SEE...

Season 16 ( Key to Time

1 The Ribos Operation
2 The Stones of Blood
3 The Androids of Tara
4 The Armgeddon Factor
5 The Power of Kroll
6 The Pirate Planet

Season 17

1 The City of Death
2 Shada
3 The Creature from the Pit
4 The Horns of Nimon
5 Destiny of the Daleks
6 The Nightmare of Eden

Season 18

1 Meglos
2 State of Decay
3 The Keeper of Traken
4 Full Circle
5 Warriors Gate
6 The Leisure Hive
7 Logoplis

WORST

1 Logopolis - Bogged Down by Scientific Gobboldigooc and Geeky and not a fitting ending to Tom. Hes not Heroic he just looks incongorous to the new cast around him.
2 The Pirate Planet - The Captain is over the top and I usually like silly but I hate this its just Hammy.
3 The Leisure Hive - Nothing but Flash
Get your hands on the Image of Fendehl - a true classic that knocks socks off most of the new stuff.
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Old 29-05-2013, 20:46
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By far and away the worst:
Warrior's Gate
Meglos
Leisure Hive
Can somebody say why they hate meglos so much. I don't understand the strong dislike for that story. Just like the horns of nimon its not a classic but its decent and fun to watch. I think Warriors Gate is probelly a classic though. I think the story is robelly hard to understand and some things are not explained but they made it well all in all.

I'm going to watch the Image of Fendahl. I watched Episode 1 and I thought it was quite good.
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Old 29-05-2013, 20:50
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I watched Invisabe enemy today and it was quite bad

WORST

1 Underworld
2 The Invisable Enemy
3 The Armageddon Factor
4 The Pirate Planet
5 Logopolis
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Old 29-05-2013, 23:42
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Can somebody say why they hate meglos so much. I don't understand the strong dislike for that story. Just like the horns of nimon its not a classic but its decent and fun to watch. I think Warriors Gate is probelly a classic though. I think the story is robelly hard to understand and some things are not explained but they made it well all in all.

I'm going to watch the Image of Fendahl. I watched Episode 1 and I thought it was quite good.
Meglos isn't the worst of episodes, but the plot is poorly thought out. The idea of having a cactus as the bad guy probably seemed really different, but it didn't really work and he was given no real motivation. Also, the plot never really stirred up much excitement and a couple of the actors weren't very good.

No doubt many of the same criticisms apply to Horns of Nimon, but it's done with such relish that it succeeds as cheesy fun. And Graham Crowden isn't "not very good" (which would be dull), he's so stratospherically OTT that he passes beyond ham and becomes magnificent.
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Old 01-06-2013, 13:13
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I have completed the fourth doctor era. I had three more to watch I hated the invisable enemy, i thought The Image of Fendahl was fine and I loved The Sun Makers, its great fun


FAVOURITES

1 The Talons of Weng Chiang
2 The Pyramids of Mars
3 City of Death
4 The Seeds of Doom
5 Genesis of the Daleks
6 The Sun Makers
7 The Face of Evil
8 Terror of the Zygons
9 Horror of Fang Rock
10 The Deadly Assassin

Honourable Mentions: Ark in Space, The Sontaran Experiment, Revenge of the Cybermen, The Android Invasion, Robots of Death, Image of Fendahl, The Invasion of Time, The Ribos Operation, The Stones of Blood, The Androids of Tara and Shada.

Worst

1 Underworld :yawn::yawn::yawn:
2 Invisible Enemy :yawn::yawn:
3 The Armageddon Shit Factor :yawn:
4 The Pirate Planet

Worsts are easy

Seasons

1) Season 13 - All of the Stories at least average and at best great

2) Season 14 - Fantastic stories in this season apart from Masque of Mandragora ( it wasent necessarily bad but it was under average)

3) Season 12 - The most Iconic season, great stories. Oh and Robot

4) Season 15 - The only problems I had with this season were Underworld and the Invisible Enemy.

5) Season 16 - The Key to time was hit and miss really. Ribos Operation, Stones of Blood and Androids of Tara were great. Power of Kroll was alright. The Pirate Planet and the Armgeddon factor were awful.

6) Season 17 - Really the Only stoies I liked in this Season were Shada and City of Death

7 Season 18 - None of my favourite episodes were in this season, theres just average or bad and it dosent suit Tom Baker. I liked Warriors Gate though. It Probelly is a classic but maybe its not.

Companions

Favourites: All the girls and Harry
Worst: Adric

On the Whole Tom Bakers Era is a bit of a mixed bag, you got the Average ones, the under average ones, you got the over average ones, you got the awful ones and real classics.
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Old 21-12-2014, 19:27
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Season 12
1. Genesis of the Daleks
2. The Ark in Space
3. Robot
4. The Sontaran Experiment

Season 13

1. Terror of the Zygons
2. The Brain of Morbius
3. Pyramids of Mars
4. The Android Invasion
5. The Seeds of Doom

Season 14

1. The Talons of Weng Chiang
2. The Robots of Death
3. The Deadly Assassin
4. The Masque of Mandragana

Season 15

1. The Sun Makers
2. Invasion of Time
3. The Image of the Fendhal
4. The Horror of the Fang Rock

Season 16
1. The Power of Kroll
2. The Androids of Tara
3. The Armeggedon Factor
4. The Pirate Planet
5. The Ribos Operation

Season 17
1. City a Death
2. Shada
3. The Destiny of the Daleks
4. The Creature from the Pit

Season 18
1. Logopolis

The Best Possible Season (Top 6)
1. The Talons of Weng Chiang
2. Genesis of the Daleks
3. Terror of the Zygons
4. The Robots of Death
5. The Deadly Assasin
6. The Brain of Morbius

The Worst Possible Season (Bottom 6)

1. The Creature from the Pit (Worst)
2. The Ribos Operation
3. The Masque of the Mangragana
4. The Destiny of the Daleks
5. The Horror of the Fang Rock
6. The Seeds of Doom
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Old 22-12-2014, 08:24
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Best
Talons of Weng Chiang
Pyramids of Mars
Robots of Death
Horror of Fang Rock
Genesis of the Daleks

Worst
Underworld
Creature from the Pit
Pirate Planet
Armageddon Factor
Meglos

Companions
Leela
Romana 1
Sarah Jane
Romana 2
Tegan ( would have been interesting to see more of her with Tom's Doctor)
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Old 22-12-2014, 13:19
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Best, in no particular order:

Brain of Morbius
Talons
Robots of Death
Horror of Fang Rock
Full Circle
State of Decay
Warriors' Gate
Genesis of the Daleks
City of Death
Destiny of the Daleks

Worst:
Robot
Revenge of the Cybermen
Underworld
Leisure Hive
Meglos
Horns of Nimon
Nightmare of Eden
Creature from the Pit
Invisible Enemy
The Android Invasion
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Old 22-12-2014, 14:50
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Meglos isn't the worst of episodes, but the plot is poorly thought out. The idea of having a cactus as the bad guy probably seemed really different, but it didn't really work and he was given no real motivation. Also, the plot never really stirred up much excitement and a couple of the actors weren't very good.
This did cheer me up for the day. Certainly not laughing at you, Dave, but the thought of them all at rehearsals and the actor playing a cactus trying to find his character's motivation!
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