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Cat getting a bit too big for his own good.
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Mike_1101
31-01-2011
I'm sure someone on here must have encountered this, the complication is that there are two cats involved.

Cat number one is a 17 year old female with no weight issues.

Cat number two is a large 4 year old neutered male, not sure of the breed but he looks like a large version of the adult cat in this picture. He is developing a gut.
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/0...nd-real-mouse/
He does like his food, unfortunately when I try to restrict his intake he walks around miserably and has become aggressive towards my old cat. I have had him for about a year, to begin with the old cat bossed him around, he now knows he is bigger than her and can give as good as he gets.

Is there any way around this apart from separating them, something I would rather not do.
Leicester_Hunk
31-01-2011
My cat is 4 and he is overweight but we hardly feed him only 2 sachets or a sachet and a bowl of Iams Light a day am at a loss what to do now.
Mike_1101
31-01-2011
Originally Posted by Leicester_Hunk:
“My cat is 4 and he is overweight but we hardly feed him only 2 sachets or a sachet and a bowl of Iams Light a day am at a loss what to do now.”

Yes, I suppose he doesn't eat that much really but the weight is coming from somewhere
MGS4SnakeRulez
01-02-2011
My 4 year old is a fatty. My 2 year old isnt. They both eat the same, and go out and play so I dunno why this is the case. He's always been a big boy since he was about 2.
Mike_1101
01-02-2011
I have left some food out for the old cat, he has had his lot for today.
stargazer61
01-02-2011
Originally Posted by Mike_1101:
“I'm sure someone on here must have encountered this, the complication is that there are two cats involved.

Cat number one is a 17 year old female with no weight issues.

Cat number two is a large 4 year old neutered male, not sure of the breed but he looks like a large version of the adult cat in this picture. He is developing a gut.
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/0...nd-real-mouse/
He does like his food, unfortunately when I try to restrict his intake he walks around miserably and has become aggressive towards my old cat. I have had him for about a year, to begin with the old cat bossed him around, he now knows he is bigger than her and can give as good as he gets.

Is there any way around this apart from separating them, something I would rather not do.”

Are you sure he is getting too fat or is it just because he is a large-boned cat?

My big cat is a rescue cat. When I got him he was emaciated (under 5lbs) and covered in sores. He was fed one sachet a day plus Hill Science Diet. Has been a steady weight of 13 lbs for the last 6 years. One vet did suggest that he was overweight until I pointed out that his weight had remained steady over the years, and that his jaws were big enough to close over my wrist!!!! He does look big alongside the my two tiny females (less than 5lbs each). Other vets have since said he is fine...just a monster!

As your cat is a young cat, is it possible he is doing a lot of hunting or has he made friends with any of your neighbours?
Mike_1101
01-02-2011
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“Are you sure he is getting too fat or is it just because he is a large-boned cat?

My big cat is a rescue cat. When I got him he was emaciated (under 5lbs) and covered in sores. He was fed one sachet a day plus Hill Science Diet. Has been a steady weight of 13 lbs for the last 6 years. One vet did suggest that he was overweight until I pointed out that his weight had remained steady over the years, and that his jaws were big enough to close over my wrist!!!! He does look big alongside the my two tiny females (less than 5lbs each). Other vets have since said he is fine...just a monster!

As your cat is a young cat, is it possible he is doing a lot of hunting or has he made friends with any of your neighbours?”

He is a big cat, no question of that and he was in good condition when a neighbour gave him to me. He doesn't go out (he hasn't much common sense) and sleeps a lot. If I pick him up there is definitely fat on his belly.
stargazer61
01-02-2011
Originally Posted by Mike_1101:
“He is a big cat, no question of that and he was in good condition when a neighbour gave him to me. He doesn't go out (he hasn't much common sense) and sleeps a lot. If I pick him up there is definitely fat on his belly.”

Seems like exercise might be the problem. How about buying a few of those toys on wands that you can wave in the air to encourage him to jump. Plus toys with catnip to chase, balls etc. Bit more interaction with him when you're at home.

However all cats are not lithe and lean. Some are, but others do carry a bit of fat around the tum. Ask the vet to weigh him next time you visit. You didn't say what you feed him on. Hills Science diet and Royal Canin both do excellent complete dry cat food - much better than wet cat food, more nutrients etc It swells up in their tums so keeps them fuller for longer and you can get both in a 'lite' variety.

All cats sleep a lot. One of my previous cats slept 23 1/2 hours out of 24!!!! She would have trained me tohand feed her if she could!
SkittyMissKitty
01-02-2011
I've put male cat on a diet for this last week. Feeding him a bowl of Iams light according to the instructions on the back (right amount for his weight) and he has access to a bowl of water. Of course, girl kitty has been put onto Iams as well (full fat Iams) but she prefers the light and he prefers the un-light! I've had to arrange it so that her feeding dish is on the windowsill above the kitchen sink (she can get up there, he can-not) and I put his dish down for him when I can watch and make sure that she isn't eating it!

No idea if it's making a difference, but Iams was recommended to me by my vet who also said to cut out the wet meat. I expected it to be hell to start with as male cat is quite vocal when he wants something, but he's adjusted to the Iams quite well - meows a little when he's hungry but quite happy when I provide his food dish.

And, for some reason, girl kitty is eating more than normal which is a good thing imo as she was a little on the thin side!
Mike_1101
01-02-2011
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“Seems like exercise might be the problem. How about buying a few of those toys on wands that you can wave in the air to encourage him to jump. Plus toys with catnip to chase, balls etc. Bit more interaction with him when you're at home.

However all cats are not lithe and lean. Some are, but others do carry a bit of fat around the tum. Ask the vet to weigh him next time you visit. You didn't say what you feed him on. Hills Science diet and Royal Canin both do excellent complete dry cat food - much better than wet cat food, more nutrients etc It swells up in their tums so keeps them fuller for longer and you can get both in a 'lite' variety.

All cats sleep a lot. One of my previous cats slept 23 1/2 hours out of 24!!!! She would have trained me tohand feed her if she could!”

I feed them both Iams Proactive Senio, this is mainly for the older cat who is doing well on it, i can't see it doing a 4 or 5 year old any harm, he isn't a kitten.

They also have some wet cat food and I make sure they can always have water.
sallygill1961
01-02-2011
some larger cats eg mines a ragdoll have a pouch underneath and can be mistaken for fat my boy weighs 16lb but he could weigh anything up to 20 or some websites say 30lb
sallygill1961
01-02-2011
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“Seems like exercise might be the problem. How about buying a few of those toys on wands that you can wave in the air to encourage him to jump. Plus toys with catnip to chase, balls etc. Bit more interaction with him when you're at home.

However all cats are not lithe and lean. Some are, but others do carry a bit of fat around the tum. Ask the vet to weigh him next time you visit. You didn't say what you feed him on. Hills Science diet and Royal Canin both do excellent complete dry cat food - much better than wet cat food, more nutrients etc It swells up in their tums so keeps them fuller for longer and you can get both in a 'lite' variety.

All cats sleep a lot. One of my previous cats slept 23 1/2 hours out of 24!!!! She would have trained me tohand feed her if she could!”

my koppa has done this he loves being hand fed
Larry1971
02-02-2011
Murphy, is a 7 year old mal and has always been a big and quite long cat lifting him up is like lifting a sack of potatoes and you need two hands to do it. We took him to the vets last week for another reason and when he was put on the scales he came in at over 60lbs. The vet said he needs to lose around 10lbs so needles to say he's now been put on a diet we still give him a full pouch of Feelix for his tea but the amount of Go Cat, he gets for his breakfast has been cut from 40 grams to just under 30 gramms and he now no longer gets his bed time snack at night.

As I said he a big boy and almost twice the size of my other cat whom you can easeliy pick up with one hand.
stargazer61
02-02-2011
Originally Posted by Larry1971:
“Murphy, is a 7 year old mal and has always been a big and quite long cat lifting him up is like lifting a sack of potatoes and you need two hands to do it. We took him to the vets last week for another reason and when he was put on the scales he came in at over 60lbs. The vet said he needs to lose around 10lbs so needles to say he's now been put on a diet we still give him a full pouch of Feelix for his tea but the amount of Go Cat, he gets for his breakfast has been cut from 40 grams to just under 30 gramms and he now no longer gets his bed time snack at night.

As I said he a big boy and almost twice the size of my other cat whom you can easeliy pick up with one hand.”

are you sure he said 60lbs??????? He would be the size of a child!
Hogzilla
02-02-2011
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“ are you sure he said 60lbs??????? He would be the size of a child!”

That's bigger than my mini bull terrier.

She'd be terrified of him.

My cat the Tripod of Evilness has to be kept at a healthy weight, as she is 3 legged and if she gained weight it would put too much strain on her heart. The neighbours went through a phase of feeding her (because she would eat and eat given the chance) so I had to let them know she could be killed by being overweight. Then they stopped and now she's back to normal. She is 16 and gets little exercise now (used to be out all day now she sleeps all day). I noticed when she was overfed her head started looking huge and somehow 'wrong'...took me a while to figure out where she was finding extra food til I realised it was the new neighbours. They'd left food out for the local feral cats and she had been eating it. They saw her guzzling and thought she was 'hungry'.

Just say this to point out there are well meaning people who leave out food for feral cats etc.
Roooty
02-02-2011
Can I just interject and say: "My cat the Tripod of Evilness" ... that is an awesome moniker! She sounds a character.
Bedsit Bob
02-02-2011
Any chance he is being fed by someone else, as well

EDIT: Just read post 7.

Is he eating the other cat's food as well
Mike_1101
02-02-2011
One strange thing about my large cat is that he is not keen on treats. If I offer him ham or freshly cooked fish, he looks at it, sniffs and walks away. The old cat loves them would eat them all the time but isn't allowed to.
Maisey Moo
02-02-2011
Have you got a picture of your big cat Mike
Mike_1101
02-02-2011
Originally Posted by Maisey Moo:
“Have you got a picture of your big cat Mike”

I don't put photographs on the internet but he looks very like the adult cat here
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/0...nd-real-mouse/
The vet said he is not a maine coon so I'm not really sure what he is.
Maisey Moo
02-02-2011
He is big. My guinness is 10kgs due a problem with his bladder.
Hogzilla
02-02-2011
Originally Posted by Roooty:
“Can I just interject and say: "My cat the Tripod of Evilness" ... that is an awesome moniker! She sounds a character. ”

Thanks. She is the most unloveable and unattractive cat ever probably - but we still manage to love her anyways. She does stuff like stick a claw in your eye when you're sleeping - for no other reason than she feels like it. And she bites people too but because she's got blunt teeth her bites are pretty rubbish. She used to beat up and boss around our staffie - he thought she was the most awesome thing ever.
stargazer61
02-02-2011
Originally Posted by Mike_1101:
“I don't put photographs on the internet but he looks very like the adult cat here
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2008/0...nd-real-mouse/
The vet said he is not a maine coon so I'm not really sure what he is.”

Some cats are naturally just huge...a bit like some humans are 5ft high and others are 6ft. If his bone and musculature are in proportion to his size, and his tum is not too big, thenhe just may be within the normal range. As I said in an earlier post, my big cat can encircle my wrist with his jaws...a little trick he effectively played on a vet who wasn't very nice! ......a rather bloody event which served her right!
stargazer61
02-02-2011
Originally Posted by Hogzilla:
“Thanks. She is the most unloveable and unattractive cat ever probably - but we still manage to love her anyways. She does stuff like stick a claw in your eye when you're sleeping - for no other reason than she feels like it. And she bites people too but because she's got blunt teeth her bites are pretty rubbish. She used to beat up and boss around our staffie - he thought she was the most awesome thing ever.”

Aww..she sounds wonderful! Like cats with a bit of character!
Mike_1101
02-02-2011
[quote=stargazer61;47844696]Some cats are naturally just huge...a bit like some humans are 5ft high and others are 6ft. If his bone and musculature are in proportion to his size, and his tum is not too big, thenhe just may be within the normal range. As I said in an earlier post, my big cat can encircle my wrist with his jaws...a little trick he effectively played on a vet who wasn't very nice! ......a rather bloody event which served her right![/QUOTE

He could well be about the right weight, he is not the feline equivalent of the obese human slobs you sometimes see,
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