Shirley was just trying to get some aggression out of Chelsea. It's not really in her nature, so it wasn't an easy task. I've seen much more one-dimensional pasos be praised, so the judges are hardly consistent.

I agree...I'm not saying Mark was right as such as he should've thought about how it would look, but as he opened his palm before finishing the act, which suggested releasing something to me.

He seems really affected by the judges comments this year. I'm not sure why; they've been harsh on professionals who have taken risks before.

And leaving tonight



And regarding Mark

I had another look and I think you might be right about the dice rolling thing (unless he thought better of it while he was doing it and added a bit at the end ).


I'm not sure why Len got the flack from Mark - it was Donnie who wanted more traditional choreo.

And regarding Mark

To me Mark is coming off, especially this season, as a very very desperate person. Perhaps since he thinks he can finally win this season (since Derek isn't on the show) he thinks he has to over do everything, but he is clearly over the top in his dancing (showing up his partner too much) and in general is acting like the show is about him.

Donnie's comment about the routine was spot on (as were all his comments during the evening.) Put simply a dance isn't just about ticking off syllabus steps - one has to have the feel of the traditional dance if one is going to call one's dance by the traditional name. Otherwise it should be called a "freestyle inspired by the Paso".

Team Chelsea Cha Cha encore
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Patricia Zhou - Dancing With The Stars Spotlight
'Macy's Stars Of Dance' - Tribute To The Godfather of Soul, James Brown
James Blunt - 'I'll Be Your Man'
Elimination

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I've caught up now. I'm not sure about that hand gesture of Mark's. I think he did start out trying to be rude then try and cover it up. Whatever it was it was ill advised to make any kind of hand gesture at that point. He could have just said that he took a gamble with the choreography when he was speaking with the presenter. I don't think anyone was actually having a go at Shirley Ballas. She tried to get the intensity out of Chelsea, which she did in rehearsals, but Chelsea ended up pulling a scowl and pout throughout the dance which isn't what she was meant to do.
Personally I think it would have been better if Shirley hadn't advised on her own son's routine.

Yes, I have a feeling Mark doesn't like playing second fiddle to Derek. I think he is very desperate, and it's not an attractive quality.

It's fair enough to criticise about the lack of tradition, but most of the dances are highly watered-down anyway. Some dances have been highly praised when they are more like Freestyle dances, and some very suspect technique has been praised to the high heavens this season e.g. Hines' Rumba. All very odd.

Shirley asked for Passion and for Chelsea to be serious not once (on the vt anyways) did she mentioned aggression that was Mark. They weren't bad mouthing Shirley at all in fact they didn't badmouth anyone they just said they were too aggressive.

I've just rewatched the training clip. No, Shirley didn't mention aggression at all. I thought Shirley was very good to be honest.

Hi, thanks for the info Force Ten, could you or possibly Prime or anyone else post the link to the elimination show if you can thanks,

Hey, its been a long time since she looked like this:

http://trekcore.com/specials/rare/david_saavik.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...EALLEY67u8.jpg
http://melissa.imageworks.dk/graphic...rs/kirstie.jpg

That's true but hey we all looked different 30 yrs ago! Having said that, her hair does bother me right now because it looks dead and lifeless and just hangs there. She's probably gone grey (like a lot of us) and blondish is easier to maintain. I would like her to put it up more so there is more definition between head and shoulders and in some of the holds this would be very effective. Just my two cents.

There's nothing wrong with getting older. I think she looks good for her age.

Maks and Kristie's AT

Chelsea & Mark - Waltz
Hines & Kym - Foxtrot
Romeo & Chelsie - Tango
Ralph & Karina - Viennese Waltz
Kirstie & Maks
Chelsea & Mark - Salsa
Hines & Kym - Jive
Romeo & Chelsie - Salsa
Ralph & Karina - Cha Cha
Kirstie & Maks - Salsa

For comparison purposes:

I love watching Hines & Kym.

Thanks for links

suppose any of them could go this week, but for me I hope its Romeo!!!

Thanks Force Ten. As usual it's Hines & Kym for me, love them. BTW is it just me or did Ralph look hot for his VW

you're not wrong Ralph has now developed his "dancer's" body. I didnt mind the guyliner as well I am massively worried he is going home tonight. I even registered to send him some votes. Well every little helps

Thought the judges were very unfair to him, especially Len, who seems to have it in for him this season. Len never likes anyone I like and you could see after his cha cha, he was in massive amounts of pain.

Karina's choreography has been nothing short of stunning, I think the waltz, quickstep and VW were the best choreographed, and possibly danced I've ever seen. Been reading the message boards on ABC, looks like no-one wants to predict who's going. Looks like Kirstie's fanbase will keep her in..........*fingers crossed* for me that it is Romeo, as the next weakest dancer [after Kirstie IMO]

I need a Ralph fix.....going off to see "the fire down below"

Going home tonight