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Fudd
24-05-2011
I preferred Hines' freestyle out of them all but he's been so overmarked he'll be another one of Kym's partners who I've hated winning (Donny being the other - agin felt he was overmarked and too OTT though I'm sure he's a nice guy).

Chelsie and Mark didn't have a great night really. I don't think it was fair to give them and Kirsty and Maks the Samba which is a very difficult dance out of all of them. The Tango/Paso Doble would've suited Kirsty and Maks better and I think Chelsie and Mark should've been given the Viennese Waltz.

The one thing that doesn't seem right is the fact the judges get to score again tonight...after they know the result of the public vote. It could easily be 'fiddled'.
Lili27
25-05-2011
In third place

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Chelsea and Mark


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Is anyone else surprised??
Lili27
25-05-2011
The winner is:

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Hines and Kym
j4Rose
25-05-2011
Originally Posted by Lili27:
“In third place

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Chelsea and Mark


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Is anyone else surprised??
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Yes, I thought she would come second.


Regarding the final dances, I think the scores have been very inflated and slightly random this season. It has made the whole thing a bit meaningless.
CaroUK
25-05-2011
Chelsea is the Lisa Snowdon (albeit a far better dancer than Lisa ever was!) of this series. Seriously overmarked and clearly the judges pet (see the semi final manoeuverings!). This sort of favouritism never gets the result they want.

Its clear that Kirstie was more popular than Chelsea - and was all the way through, so i am not surprised that she and Maks overtook her due to the public vote, especially having seen her throw everything she had into the freestyle!

That said - I never quite saw why the judges thought Hines was so good.....but then - the football players are always popular with the public!
Force Ten
25-05-2011
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I'm glad Hines won as I thought his Freestyle was the best, but I'm surprised Chelsea & Mark came third and not second. Chelsea obviously doesn't have the following that Kirstie has, added to which they were so out of sync in their Freestyle. And Mark was just too desperate this series! He pushed the boundaries just that bit too far IMO.

Just waiting for all the clips to upload so I can post the links.
Force Ten
25-05-2011
Dancing With The Stars Pros & Troupe - Introduction To The Finale
The Black Eyed Peas - 'Don't Stop the Party'
Mike Catherwood Auditions For 'Dancing With The Stars' Troupe
Petra Nemcova & Dmitry Chaplin - 'You Raise Me Up'
Kendra Wilkinson - 'Livin' la Vida Loca'
Sugar Ray Leonard & Chris Jericho - 'Let's Get Ready To Rumble'
Wendy Williams & Tony Dovolani - The Finale
Macy's Design-a-Dance - The Go-Go's - 'We Got the Beat'
Romeo & Chelsie Hightower - The Finale
Ralph Macchio & Karina Smirnoff - Quickstep - The Finale
Dancing With The Stars - The Rapping Judges
Chelsea Kane & Mark Ballas - Viennese Waltz - Finale
Kirstie Alley & Maksim Chmerkovskiy - Cha Cha - Finale
Hines Ward & Kym Johnson - Samba - Finale
Sara Evans - 'A Little Bit Stronger'
Dancing With The Stars - The Mirrorball Winner
fridgesoup
25-05-2011
Originally Posted by Force Ten:
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I'm glad Hines won as I thought his Freestyle was the best, but I'm surprised Chelsea & Mark came third and not second. Chelsea obviously doesn't have the following that Kirstie has, added to which they were so out of sync in their Freestyle. And Mark was just too desperate this series! He pushed the boundaries just that bit too far IMO.

Just waiting for all the clips to upload so I can post the links.”

Really just posting to move an ad that's covering your lovely links, FT - thank you for posting.

I couldn't resist peeking
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and I'm surprised Chelsea came in third place. Freestyles aside, which I thought were all pretty poor, it's hard not to think that she was a victim of Mark's ego this season (and the judges manipulations)
Mrs F
25-05-2011
that was really quick with the links force ten..much appreciated.

I needed to see Ralph reprise his quickstep

very sad he didnt make the finals. Bruno and Len came in for a lot of criticism on the forums, it took me back to Strictly last year

Was a worthy winner though
Force Ten
25-05-2011
The ABC forums seem to be just the same as the DS Strictly forum when SCD is on. Lots of complaints and backbiting lol.
j4Rose
25-05-2011
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“Chelsea is the Lisa Snowdon (albeit a far better dancer than Lisa ever was!) of this series. Seriously overmarked and clearly the judges pet (see the semi final manoeuverings!). This sort of favouritism never gets the result they want.

Its clear that Kirstie was more popular than Chelsea - and was all the way through, so i am not surprised that she and Maks overtook her due to the public vote, especially having seen her throw everything she had into the freestyle!

That said - I never quite saw why the judges thought Hines was so good.....but then - the football players are always popular with the public!”

I think Mark had more to do with Chelsea's performance than anything else. Hines was seriously overmarked throughout the competition, so he was clearly the favourite. He really wasn't a very good dancer at all IMO. He had personality, but his technique was very mediocre.

They probably wanted to keep Chelsea so that it seemed like more of a contest. She was probably the best dancer overall.

It almost seemed like the judges had decided on the scores before the couples even danced. That was certainly the case last night.
pearlj
25-05-2011
Thank you Force Ten for links. If it wasn't for you and Prime posting i would not have seen this seasons DWTS. Hopefully some other channel will pick-up the new series in September but if not i hope you continue to post links Force Ten, wish i could send you a big bunch of flowers.

So happy with the winner, roll on September.
Sam Weiss
25-05-2011
Originally Posted by Force Ten:
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Sugar Ray Leonard & Chris Jericho - 'Let's Get Ready To Rumble'
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Jericho really nailed Bruno there in impression!
Caramel Crunch
25-05-2011
Thanks so much for the links

I'm happy with the result.

I've loved Maks this year but really disliked Mark.
Hopefully Derek will be back next season,
Ballroom-B.
25-05-2011
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I can understand why Hines won, but I also felt that he had been overmarked on a number of occasions. I thought he was very flat footed for quite a lot of the time. However he wasn't completely rubbish and was obviously a very popular celebrity. He had a great relationship with Kym and I think that draws in the viewers.
Chelsea is a really good dancer and technically the strongest but to me it may have been the attitude of Mark towards the judges criticisms and his choreography that overall cost it for Chelsea. Though it seems she was battling with being relatively unknown too.
In the end I'm not surprised that Kirstie overtook Chelsea on the public vote. I think she had a lot of qualities popular with the viewers - a journey, physical and mental transformation, a great relationship with her partner etc and actually a lot of her basic technique wasn't bad. Maks is clearly a good teacher.


I guessed the judges would score all three couples the same for the final dance, otherwise it leads to accusations that the judges know the outcome of the public vote and are trying to engineer the results. I think it is a bit weird that the public cannot vote when there is still one dance to be done which picks up judges scores. I don't know if it's something to do with their voting system or time zones etc?

I would love to have seen Ralph in the final - his quickstep was one of my favourite routines from the entire series (so I was glad when they showed it again!) and he also was a good dancer, but I guess they always had to lose somebody.

I've no idea what I'm going to do on a Tuesday and Wednesday morning now that the series is ended and I haven't got clips to watch
pearlj
25-05-2011
Originally Posted by Ballroom-B.:
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I can understand why Hines won, but I also felt that he had been overmarked on a number of occasions. I thought he was very flat footed for quite a lot of the time. However he wasn't completely rubbish and was obviously a very popular celebrity. He had a great relationship with Kym and I think that draws in the viewers.
Chelsea is a really good dancer and technically the strongest but to me it may have been the attitude of Mark towards the judges criticisms and his choreography that overall cost it for Chelsea. Though it seems she was battling with being relatively unknown too.
In the end I'm not surprised that Kirstie overtook Chelsea on the public vote. I think she had a lot of qualities popular with the viewers - a journey, physical and mental transformation, a great relationship with her partner etc and actually a lot of her basic technique wasn't bad. Maks is clearly a good teacher.


I guessed the judges would score all three couples the same for the final dance, otherwise it leads to accusations that the judges know the outcome of the public vote and are trying to engineer the results. I think it is a bit weird that the public cannot vote when there is still one dance to be done which picks up judges scores. I don't know if it's something to do with their voting system or time zones etc?

I would love to have seen Ralph in the final - his quickstep was one of my favourite routines from the entire series (so I was glad when they showed it again!) and he also was a good dancer, but I guess they always had to lose somebody.

I've no idea what I'm going to do on a Tuesday and Wednesday morning now that the series is ended and I haven't got clips to watch ”

I'm with you on that one too, don't know what i will do, looked forward to tuesday and wednesday mornings to watch and check the results, aw well, might as well rain until September, now that I don't have Hine's sunny smile to look forward to.
Christian Cage
25-05-2011
I'm going to miss seeing Kirstie and Maksim dancing together.
fridgesoup
25-05-2011
Originally Posted by Ballroom-B.:
“I guessed the judges would score all three couples the same for the final dance, otherwise it leads to accusations that the judges know the outcome of the public vote and are trying to engineer the results. I think it is a bit weird that the public cannot vote when there is still one dance to be done which picks up judges scores. I don't know if it's something to do with their voting system or time zones etc?”

I'm sure it does have to do with the time zones because the show airs on the West coast three hours later than the East (I think ). I suppose that they have to make it look like something on the Tuesday night counts to make if feel exciting, but it's a bit silly really.
andallthatjazz
25-05-2011
Hines is the only DWTS winner to date who only won on popularity rather than being the best dancer because he's a mediocre dancer by comparison to previous winners.

And Marks should have saved his puppet quickstep routine for the freestyle dance, in any case it just proved that Derek Hough is a superior choreographer than his friend Mark.

This season was quite forgettable, hopefully they get better zeleb casts next year & Julianne & Derek to come back.

Thanks for all the links ForceTen.
Jan2555*GG*
25-05-2011
I didnt see very much of this series....is 'Kym' Kym Johnson who won with Donny Osmond ? She has done well then if so.....two wins.
Force Ten
25-05-2011
Originally Posted by pearlj:
“Thank you Force Ten for links. If it wasn't for you and Prime posting i would not have seen this seasons DWTS. Hopefully some other channel will pick-up the new series in September but if not i hope you continue to post links Force Ten, wish i could send you a big bunch of flowers.

So happy with the winner, roll on September.”

You're welcome. I've been posting the links for years, so see no reason to stop now lol.
fridgesoup
25-05-2011
Originally Posted by andallthatjazz:
“Hines is the only DWTS winner to date who only won on popularity rather than being the best dancer because he's a mediocre dancer by comparison to previous winners.

And Marks should have saved his puppet quickstep routine for the freestyle dance, in any case it just proved that Derek Hough is a superior choreographer than his friend Mark.

This season was quite forgettable, hopefully they get better zeleb casts next year & Julianne & Derek to come back.

Thanks for all the links ForceTen.”

BIB - Donny Osmond? (Maybe it's the Kym factor )

To be fair to Hines, there were no standout dancers this season, and, if Chelsea came closest, even with all the help the judges could chuck her way, she didn't even make it to second place. (I'm sure it was Mark who let her down).

I don't think Hines was any worse (or any better) than Kirstie or Ralph, so other things decided it.

(Maybe next season they'll return to the tried and tested formula of pairing an experienced dancer with Derek )
fridgesoup
25-05-2011
Originally Posted by Force Ten:
“Petra Nemcova & Dmitry Chaplin - 'You Raise Me Up'”

Just watched this - her face was a picture. Very sweet
scarlotti
25-05-2011
Originally Posted by andallthatjazz:
“Hines is the only DWTS winner to date who only won on popularity rather than being the best dancer because he's a mediocre dancer by comparison to previous winners.

Thanks for all the links ForceTen.”

As fridgesoup has already commented - Donny Osmond won it by virtue of his popularity!

And surely it was Shawn Johnson's position as a national icon that won her the competition! Miss America versus the cheese eating surrender monkey Gilles Marini

Hines certainly doesn't bear comparison with previous winners - why even last night, after 10 weeks of competition, he was still nowhere near as good as the previous series winner was in her first week on the show!
scarlotti
25-05-2011
And thanks again to Force Ten for making DWTS available to us all!
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