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Old 06-02-2011, 00:36
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I dunno about everyone else but I was never that interested in the whole john stape story and him pretending to be colin, for a start i never really understood it and secondly i thought it was so stupid that john was even back on the street after kidnapping Rosie. Then we were introduced to Charlotte, again at first I didnt care but then she went totally mad and started to actually believe john was colin, and what we got was an absolute mad character who had lost all sense of reality, i thought the actress played it really well and the writing was brilliant but then Corrie decided to kill her off, john committed yet another murder and they basically killed off any chance of the story ever becoming interesting and nw we are meant to believe that fizzy whizzy (charlotte' nickame for her) is now in on the crime of stealing money etc
its utterly stupid, anyway anyone els agree that charlotte should of stayed, i think if she had then the story would of been so much better
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Old 06-02-2011, 00:43
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She was awful no loss to the show.
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Old 06-02-2011, 00:50
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I dunno about everyone else but I was never that interested in the whole john stape story and him pretending to be colin, for a start i never really understood it and secondly i thought it was so stupid that john was even back on the street after kidnapping Rosie. Then we were introduced to Charlotte, again at first I didnt care but then she went totally mad and started to actually believe john was colin, and what we got was an absolute mad character who had lost all sense of reality, i thought the actress played it really well and the writing was brilliant but then Corrie decided to kill her off, john committed yet another murder and they basically killed off any chance of the story ever becoming interesting and nw we are meant to believe that fizzy whizzy (charlotte' nickame for her) is now in on the crime of stealing money etc
its utterly stupid, anyway anyone els agree that charlotte should of stayed, i think if she had then the story would of been so much better
This is what I don't understand John did not murder Charlotte, he did not kill Colin, the first person he has killed is Mrs Fishwick. up till this point John was not a murderer so why does everyone make out he was?

Yes i agree that Charlotte was a really good character and should not have been killed off (especially when much worse actors don't have their characters killed off - Dev!)
I think the wrapping up of Colin etc has all been too neat. kill colins mother, fizz going for the money etc it's all too contrived.
What would have been more interesting is if Colin Fishwick turned up ...but he bore no resemblence to the Colin buried in Underworld, that would have been a bit more interesting than what we have now, you never know this may happen in the future i suppose
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Old 06-02-2011, 00:56
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I loved Charlotte (and her amazing parents) dearly, and she added to my enjoyment of all things Stape immeasuraby, even now she's gone, but I think she worked best as a short term character, so no big mistake, no.
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Old 06-02-2011, 02:29
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This is what I don't understand John did not murder Charlotte, he did not kill Colin, the first person he has killed is Mrs Fishwick. up till this point John was not a murderer so why does everyone make out he was?

Yes i agree that Charlotte was a really good character and should not have been killed off (especially when much worse actors don't have their characters killed off - Dev!)
I think the wrapping up of Colin etc has all been too neat. kill colins mother, fizz going for the money etc it's all too contrived.
What would have been more interesting is if Colin Fishwick turned up ...but he bore no resemblence to the Colin buried in Underworld, that would have been a bit more interesting than what we have now, you never know this may happen in the future i suppose
Erm -John did murder charlotte - he hit her over the head with a hammer. She was brain dead in the hospital, andso had her machine turned off, and if an attacked person dies within a certain amount of time (possibly a year and a day) from their injuries, this constitutes murder.

On the other hand, I think Joys death would be treated as manslaughter rather than murder, as he only tried to keep her quiet, there was no premeditation, and although Charlottes death wasn't premeditated, he attacked her with a hammer!!! Obviously, he didn't murder Colin.
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:41
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After all this you could still argue John isn't a murderer Colin dropped dead on the spot, he hit Charlotte in self defense and I got the impression from Joy's death that she was having a heart attack of some sort (and needed her spray) and died from that, not from him covering her mouth because she still would have been able to breathe.

Agree with the OP, I miss Charlotte too!
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:46
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would be good if charlottes mum worked part time or something at the hospital john is currently staying in.
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Old 06-02-2011, 10:57
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I think Charlotte worked better as a short term character - would love her to have a twin sister tho
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:10
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I think Charlotte had to die, it fits into the storyline. And yes I agree it could be argued that John acted in self-defence.

Also it was worth it, if only because it gave us John's hilarious shock horror moment when she was found to be still alive in the live ep after the tram crash. Comedy genius.
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:13
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I really liked Charlotte.

They should have kept Charlotte and got rid of Fizz and John. IMO.
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:18
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This is what I don't understand John did not murder Charlotte,
I think a hammer to her head would be classed as murder.
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:41
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After all this you could still argue John isn't a murderer Colin dropped dead on the spot, he hit Charlotte in self defense and I got the impression from Joy's death that she was having a heart attack of some sort (and needed her spray) and died from that, not from him covering her mouth because she still would have been able to breathe.

Agree with the OP, I miss Charlotte too!
I like John, and see your point, but I don't think any court in the land would see it as self defence. She was trying to get out of the house threatening to spill the beans re Colin, and he hit her on the back of the head with a hammer!
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Old 06-02-2011, 11:58
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After all this you could still argue John isn't a murderer Colin dropped dead on the spot, he hit Charlotte in self defense and I got the impression from Joy's death that she was having a heart attack of some sort (and needed her spray) and died from that, not from him covering her mouth because she still would have been able to breathe.

Agree with the OP, I miss Charlotte too!
Is self defence chasing a person who is trying get away from you and whacking them full force across the back of the neck? If so then it was self defence.

He did murder her. It wasn't self defence. Once John had the hammer, why would he need to defend himself?
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:01
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I think the only clear cut thing in this whole murky story is that John DID murder Charlotte. No doubt about it in my mind.

He also dragged her body and dumped it in the ginnel.
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:16
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Who cares if it was murder or not, Charlotte was never intended to stick around forever, just to cause trouble for Fiz and John. The character drove me mad personally.
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:26
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She looked like Daffy Duck!
Although the CD of her singing, and the thought of her parents "lumpy bumpy cake" did make me smile
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Old 06-02-2011, 12:27
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She looked like Daffy Duck!
Although the CD of her singing, and the thought of her parents "lumpy bumpy cake" did make me smile
The meal with the parents was genius, and "Fizzy Wizzy"
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Old 06-02-2011, 13:20
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I want Charlotte's twin sister and her parents back. The mum was hilarious especially some story she told about a stray cat and milk, the specifics of which escape me.
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Old 06-02-2011, 13:25
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I want Charlotte's twin sister and her parents back. The mum was hilarious especially some story she told about a stray cat and milk, the specifics of which escape me.
it was something to do with charlotte coming back as a cat in an afterlife, and she'd visit her mum, who would feed her milk from a saucer, I think
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Old 06-02-2011, 13:35
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I loved Charlotte, but to be fair, I think she was only introduced only for this storyline, I don't think she would of been kept in for the long run.

Although some of the stuff between her and John where funny. I loved this scene in the alley at 09:54

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5XpF...eature=related

Maybe she should appear as a "ghost" in John's dreams while he is in hospital and he starts to panic.
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Old 06-02-2011, 13:38
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it was something to do with charlotte coming back as a cat in an afterlife, and she'd visit her mum, who would feed her milk from a saucer, I think
Charlotte's parents are brilliant! I'd love to see them pop up again at some point.
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Old 06-02-2011, 13:46
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Charlotte had severe psychological problems and most likely psychiatric issues at well. With a character such as Charlotte whose mental health issues manifest within a short time of her arrival the options are very limited. Usually it ends in death or sectioning. Without mental health treatment people like Charlotte only get worse and if she had stayed it would only have been a matter of time before other characters noticed. The focus would then have shifted from John's problems to Charlotte's mental illness destroying the very storyline the character was created for. Had the character of Charlotte been introduced to Weatherfield as having no association with John and she been accompanied by a friend, partner or family there might have been scope for exploring her mental health issues. Because of the way she was introduced there was no way to sever Charlotte from the identity theft storyline and as such she was doomed.
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Old 06-02-2011, 18:24
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I adored Charlotte. They could have done so much more with her character.
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Old 06-02-2011, 18:35
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I adored Charlotte. They could have done so much more with her character.
She was a total nutso so unless it ended in her killing John, I couldnt quite imagine what they could have done with her

If they hadn't made her a bunny boiler then she could have become more permanent but the writing was on the wall when she became obsessed with him
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Old 06-02-2011, 18:43
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Yes she should have remained comatosed
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