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HDMI on HDR T2 now broken
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Tool2004
12-02-2011
Same problem here aswell, with no picture when turning on from standby while it is recording.

I am using a Pioneer plasma.
djbh
12-02-2011
Thanks PhilipL:
Yes, I tried switching from PVR to tv - as others have suggested - but it didn't help. If it happens again, I will try switching to DVD.
Last edited by djbh : 12-02-2011 at 23:36
coffeecat
13-02-2011
HDMI now broken for me too. Never ever had a problem before (bought HDR when they first came out). I have a 2 y.o. Philips LCD tv. Now you have to switch tv channel to HDMI first, then turn on the Humax. Otherwise tv ALWAYS says "no signal". And if a recording is in progress, your just stuffed.

Really annoyed customer here...

CC
Bob1942
14-02-2011
Originally Posted by coffeecat:
“HDMI now broken for me too. Never ever had a problem before (bought HDR when they first came out). I have a 2 y.o. Philips LCD tv. Now you have to switch tv channel to HDMI first, then turn on the Humax. Otherwise tv ALWAYS says "no signal". And if a recording is in progress, your just stuffed.

Really annoyed customer here...

CC”

Everything still working 100% HDMI,Portal etc. Good internet radio coverage on the portal.
iiyama17
14-02-2011
Originally Posted by Bob1942:
“Everything still working 100% HDMI,Portal etc. Good internet radio coverage on the portal.”

Bob, clearly there is an issue here else different people wouldn't be reporting it. I'm not sure what your 'what problem?' post is meant to achieve other than make you look smug. If you don't have a problem, I'm happy for you. But please don't dismiss other people's experiences of this bug which is all too real!
GTi Jazz Blue
14-02-2011
Just again to repeat my post as it may help someone. I had issues with the new code, but a switch of HDMI cable resolved the issue.

The original cable is working fine on my DVD player, and the one that I pinched from the DVD player is working fine on the Humax.

So it looks like different cables can effect the issue.

Regards,

Paul
tc9604
14-02-2011
Originally Posted by andyman5002:
“Also just checked after formatting theres a phantom 20Gb of used data???”

I found this with my new HDR, straight out of the box, updated the software and 20Gb was used - before I'd recorded anything!
Bob1942
15-02-2011
Originally Posted by iiyama17:
“Bob, clearly there is an issue here else different people wouldn't be reporting it. I'm not sure what your 'what problem?' post is meant to achieve other than make you look smug. If you don't have a problem, I'm happy for you. But please don't dismiss other people's experiences of this bug which is all too real!”

Nothing about being smug! Just making a perfectly reasonable observation that if I'm not having problems the upgrade must be ok,not corrupted so though several users have a problem its likely a problem with their setups not general "bug".
SmokeMonster
15-02-2011
Originally Posted by Bob1942:
“Nothing about being smug! Just making a perfectly reasonable observation that if I'm not having problems the upgrade must be ok,not corrupted so though several users have a problem its likely a problem with their setups not general "bug".”

...but my setup hasn't changed and the software has. Where there wasn't an issue before there now is an issue

For me, this would suggest that the software isn't working the way it used to.
Bob1942
15-02-2011
Originally Posted by SmokeMonster:
“...but my setup hasn't changed and the software has. Where there wasn't an issue before there now is an issue

For me, this would suggest that the software isn't working the way it used to.”

Obviously updates change the software but if it doesn't change my setup for the worse it doesn't seem to be a bug.
neilleeds
15-02-2011
Originally Posted by Bob1942:
“Nothing about being smug! Just making a perfectly reasonable observation that if I'm not having problems the upgrade must be ok,not corrupted so though several users have a problem its likely a problem with their setups not general "bug".”

Most HDMI problems with consumer electronics are not experienced in every combination of equipment. If a unit fails to work properly with several major television brands (Sony and Panasonic have been mentioned I believe) then it is a bug regardless of whether it affects everyone.
Richard Russell
15-02-2011
Originally Posted by Bob1942:
“if I'm not having problems the upgrade must be ok.”

You can't possibly draw that conclusion. If you're not having problems, it simply means that any bugs haven't (yet) affected you. There's a near-infinite variety of different Humax settings, types of TV, TV settings, user habits etc. which can mean it works 'perfectly' for one person but exhibits major problems for another.
Bob1942
15-02-2011
Originally Posted by Richard Russell:
“You can't possibly draw that conclusion. If you're not having problems, it simply means that any bugs haven't (yet) affected you. There's a near-infinite variety of different Humax settings, types of TV, TV settings, user habits etc. which can mean it works 'perfectly' for one person but exhibits major problems for another.”

That's like saying Aspirin are safe but a few people may have side affects,still Humax is still more reliable than my 3view which worked for a few days but now wont show HD, now someone will say 3view is perfect!
OwenSmith
15-02-2011
Originally Posted by PhilipL:
“Under no circumstances should you turn it off when recording using the mains switch at the back, which is doing nothing more than yanking the plug out the wall does. While the box is on and not in standby then doing this could result in a corrupt drive needing a reformat.”

Power cuts happen. This is a consumer device, it should be able to cope. My old Pace Twin recovered from this, you got two files for the recording one from before the power cut and one after, I just watch one then the other and there's a small gap in the middle.

If the HDR Fox T2 can trash the disc on a power cut then it is not fit for purpose. Even Windows can cope with this without trashing the hard disc.
OwenSmith
15-02-2011
Originally Posted by neilleeds:
“Most HDMI problems with consumer electronics are not experienced in every combination of equipment. If a unit fails to work properly with several major television brands (Sony and Panasonic have been mentioned I believe) then it is a bug regardless of whether it affects everyone.”

My Sony KDL 26E4000 is affected, if I switch the Humax on while it is recording I have to watch via RGB SCART as nothing gets the HDMI working again.
djbh
15-02-2011
Originally Posted by OwenSmith:
“My Sony KDL 26E4000 is affected, if I switch the Humax on while it is recording I have to watch via RGB SCART as nothing gets the HDMI working again.”

I too have a Sony tv. Yesterday, I got the HDMI working again by switching the HDMI cable from one socket on the tv to another socket (when both the Humax and Sony were on - not on standby). Just hope this can't damage anything!
langstone
15-02-2011
I am also having problems using the hdr-t2 connected to an Onkyo TXBR 1007 then to one of the 56PL 25:10 widescreen philips tellies.

I can normally get the picture back by switching inputs but sometimes have to restart the Humax (with remote).

Regards

Mark
ejstubbs
15-02-2011
Sorry to say that HDMI seems to be giving problems with my Sony KDL40W5710: quite frequently the TV will get no picture or sound after both it and the Humax are powered on after being on standby. Switching to another input and back on the TV doesn't fix it. I have to put the Humax back in to standby, wait a while and power it on again to get HDMI to work.

Fortunately I haven't yet had the problem when the box has been recording.

It does look as if they have managed to introduce new HDMI issues in 1.02.07. I wonder if this is anything to do with the "HDMI > DVI improvements" which are listed in the release notes?
iiyama17
16-02-2011
Originally Posted by Bob1942:
“Nothing about being smug! Just making a perfectly reasonable observation that if I'm not having problems the upgrade must be ok,not corrupted so though several users have a problem its likely a problem with their setups not general "bug".”

My system hasn't changed at all. The only thing that has is the Humax software. Before the change my HDMI switching was reliable, afterwards it is isn't. And neither is that of other members.
neilleeds
16-02-2011
I found it helped to turn the Humax on before the TV, people may want to try that as a temporary fix.
djbh
18-02-2011
Dear everybody:
Try contacting [Humax Support] Colin <colin@humax-digital.co.uk>
At least he replies!
ejstubbs
18-02-2011
Originally Posted by neilleeds:
“I found it helped to turn the Humax on before the TV”

I found just the opposite: the HDMI sync seems to be more reliable if the TV is already powered on when I bring the Humax out of standby.
coffeecat
18-02-2011
Originally Posted by ejstubbs:
“I found just the opposite: the HDMI sync seems to be more reliable if the TV is already powered on when I bring the Humax out of standby.”

Yeah, me too:

TV on first, then Humax, works for me.
macklij
18-02-2011
Originally Posted by coffeecat:
“Yeah, me too:

TV on first, then Humax, works for me.”

What make and model of TV are you using?
tvmad-alan
18-02-2011
I have three Humax boxes and with all up dates over the years have worked fine with me.
1) Humax HD freesat box ( linked to Internet by cable )
2) Humax HD PVR freesat box ( linked to Internet too )
3) Humax HD PVR 1TB freeview box ( linked to Internet too )

All have been working fine and have no trouble ( at this time )

I do have my TV on before the boxes go on as I have number boxes to my Toshiba 46" HD freeview & 32 " freeview TV's like DVD recorder with freeview , free sky & Virgin HD PVR and Humax boxes

I notice the sky player has gone from Humax freeview player.

So may be to make the Humax box work you need TV on first ???
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