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Old 11-02-2011, 15:38
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there is a huge differnce between The One Show, and OK! TV.
With respect, you're missing the point.
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:39
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and before its deleted

https://twitter.com/Channel5Press

denise_vanouten Had a great day at @OKTVOfficial towers with @Mattjohnsons. So excited about our new show
# and are delighted to have her on board to co-present this fantastic new show" 11 minutes ago via web

# We all know how fantastic and experienced Kate is following her time on Live From Studio Five 11 minutes ago via web

# “We are delighted to announce that Kate Walsh will be stepping up to present OK! TV with Matt Johnson
brilliant, I am so glad I got out of bed todayand before its deleted

https://twitter.com/Channel5Press

denise_vanouten Had a great day at @OKTVOfficial towers with @Mattjohnsons. So excited about our new show
# and are delighted to have her on board to co-present this fantastic new show" 11 minutes ago via web

# We all know how fantastic and experienced Kate is following her time on Live From Studio Five 11 minutes ago via web

# “We are delighted to announce that Kate Walsh will be stepping up to present OK! TV with Matt Johnson
brilliant, I am so glad I got out of bed today

With respect, you're missing the point.
well lets not forget that the news media gave great coverage to the Jason Manford stuff, this will be lucky to make The Sun, the Daily Star probaly wont be printing it.
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:40
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Funny. I don't remember this much fuss when Jason Manford was forced to quit The One Show just a few weeks into the role over his pervy behaviour on Twitter.

Just shows this thread's ridiculous double standards. It gets worse by the day.
Hahaha! Your obsession with this channel is hilarious!
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:40
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Funny. I don't remember this much fuss when Jason Manford was forced to quit The One Show just a few weeks into the role over his pervy behaviour on Twitter.

Just shows this thread's ridiculous double standards. It gets worse by the day.
I think the difference is that by that stage The One Show had proven it could get 4-5m no matter who presented it. When Adrian & Christine went there was pages and pages of discussion on here about it.

Personally I just think OK TV sounds like trash. Kate is inoffensive and attracive but she's a dreadful presenter, and in all honesty not a great anchor for a new show.
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:41
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Not ideal from C5's perspective as any similarity with LFSF will be even more pronounced.

Although I'm chuffed for Kate, she clearly enjoys working on these shows and comes across a lovely lady.

It's probably their best bet at this late stage. Kate should be able to slip into the role easier than anyone else.
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:42
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It's probably their best bet at this late stage. Kate should be able to slip into the role easier than anyone else.
for what its worth I do agree with that, OK! TV wont be anymore taxing on her skills as a presenter from Live From Studio Five.

The problem is OK! TV now looks even more like a rebranded LfS5 than it did before.
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:45
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Funny. I don't remember this much fuss when Jason Manford was forced to quit The One Show just a few weeks into the role over his pervy behaviour on Twitter.

Just shows this thread's ridiculous double standards. It gets worse by the day.
Far from me to defend C5, I only ever watch it for Europa League football but the amount of criticism and stick it's getting at the moment for seemingly doing nothing wrong is a bit much.
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:45
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Marchlands has done very well so far. It's exactly the sort of drama ITV should be attempting so it's please to see that it held onto 89% of its premiere audience which is a really good retention for any new drama. Next week, though, will be more testing with MasterChef and UEFA Cup on so I expect it'll fall to the high 4's/low 5's level. Regarding a possible recommission, I don't think there's much scope for it to come back because the show concentrates on one specific story on certain characters so I can't see it returning, especially as two of the main actors are now busy with US dramas (Terra Nova and Private Practice) and unlikely to have time to commit to another series of this.

With its series finished, Not Going Out averaged 4.1m for its 6 episodes in the overnights, with timeshift/iPlayer still to come. I think that hopefully should be good enough for another series - I know it's dipped under 4m for the last two episodes but given the lack of lead-in and silly decision to still have it begin at 9:30pm half-way through most other programmes which is really difficult, I think it's done fine.

Interesting multichannel ratings yesterday. A very good start for Mad Dogs but not surprising at all because it has been promoted so much by Sky over the last few weeks, they've got billboard up for it and have a really good cast so it was always going to be close to that million mark. It seems to have been well received by people who watched it so I don't think it'll drop much next week (maybe down to ~800k). A strong return for Celebrity Juice, especially now that it's no longer got Katie Price's 1m+ lead-in anymore. With a 26 episode order for this year, it's now pretty much become ITV2's flagship original series.

Skins is struggling a bit this series. I know that 670k (inc. +1) for an E4 show is a great rating but there's always higher expectations with a show like Skins and given that ratings seem to be going lower and lower by the week and that it must be at E4's high-end in terms of cost for programming, could this generation be the show's last one? I know it could just be the characters putting people off and this could be fixed with new characters for the next generation but I just think if the ratings continue to decline (say to something like 500k or under inc. +1), is that really good enough for a scripted drama on E4? The channel could spend the money saved by dropping Skins on an original programme rather than revamping a show which I suspect is now close to reaching its limit creatively and hasn't got much more to offer.
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:48
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for what its worth I do agree with that, OK! TV wont be anymore taxing on her skills as a presenter from Live From Studio Five.

The problem is OK! TV now looks even more like a rebranded LfS5 than it did before.
That's exactly what it is, but with the OK magazine tie in, it's Desmond self promoting his media empire.
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:51
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I think the difference is that by that stage The One Show had proven it could get 4-5m no matter who presented it. When Adrian & Christine went there was pages and pages of discussion on here about it.
True, but the nature of that discussion was somewhat different. It provoked constructive debate, rather than worthless one liners and mass hilarity.

Personally I just think OK TV sounds like trash. Kate is inoffensive and attracive but she'sa dreadful presenter, and in all honesty not a great anchor for a new show???
Maybe not, but that wasn't the original plan, was it? Clearly things weren't working out with Denise for whatever reason, and they've had to sign Kate up as the last minute. Not ideal for anyone but it's the best they can do at this late stage.

As for it sounding like trash, maybe you're not in the TA. I don't, and never would, buy the mag. But half a million people do every week. Chances are they will enjoy this programme.
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:52
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That's exactly what it is, but with the OK magazine tie in, it's Desmond self promoting his media empire.
true of course, but given the ratings fro LfS5, I am sure Channel 5 was hoping it would be seen as a whole new show, rather than a rebranded LfS5
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:55
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Well the ratings for Mondays show will be very interesting.
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:55
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But half a million people do every week. Chances are they will enjoy this programme.
I wonder how many will find the magazine is out of date compared to the TV show.
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:56
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true of course, but given the ratings fro LfS5, I am sure Channel 5 was hoping it would be seen as a whole new show, rather than a rebranded LfS5
But, it was never really going to be a new show anyway. Its the same format, same everything really apart from the name and one of the presenters. It was really only changed from LFS5 so Dickie could cross promote OK! mag with OK! the TV show.

RE: Ratings

Same ratings as Studio 5 got on its launch I would think? The promotion of the show has been poor, I've seen 1 ad for it and thats it.
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:56
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That's exactly what it is, but with the OK magazine tie in, it's Desmond self promoting his media empire.
And, as long as no rules are being broken, what is wrong with that?

OK! TV (in some form) enjoyed a run on ITV, did it not?
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:56
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I think there's every reason to wish that Desmond's rather down-market views for a terrestrial channel fails. I don't like the mags and newspapers he produces (except for the Asian porn, obviously) and would rather not see a channel promoting poor journalism and crass slebs.

Just my point of view
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Old 11-02-2011, 15:57
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But, it was never really going to be a new show anyway. Its the same format, same everything really apart from the name and one of the presenters. It was really only changed from LFS5 so Dickie could cross promote OK! mag with OK! the TV show.
but the ratings for LfS5 were awful, no point launching a new show if you are happy to accpet those numbers, Desmond would have had better results just having OK! sponosring Live From Studio Five.
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Old 11-02-2011, 16:02
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But, it was never really going to be a new show anyway. Its the same format, same everything really apart from the name and one of the presenters. It was really only changed from LFS5 so Dickie could cross promote OK! mag with OK! the TV show.

RE: Ratings

Same ratings as Studio 5 got on its launch I would think? The promotion of the show has been poor, I've seen 1 ad for it and thats it.
Firstly, promotion hasn't been poor, it has been extensive across the entire C5 network, albeit one short ad but used excessively. Secondly, how do you know the format is the same? Not much info has been released. Let's see on Monday shall we before we jump to any convenient conclusions.

As for ratings, it will probably do the usual 0.3-0.4m. Zoo Days has been rating in that sort of area this week so I see no reason why that would suddenly change. If OK! TV is to be a success, it will need time to grow its audience, because C5 hasn't faired well in that slot for a long time.
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Old 11-02-2011, 16:03
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but the ratings for LfS5 were awful, no point launching a new show if you are happy to accpet those numbers, Desmond would have had better results just having OK! sponosring Live From Studio Five.
Well they might have seemed awful but they must have been happy with them, the show was on for 18 months which for a original Channel 5 show is a long time. Studio 5 at times under Jayne & Kate was getting 400K now if OK!TV can get that on a nightly basis am sure Dickie will be pleased. As you say he could have just had OK! sponsoring Studio Five but the show had a real bad "media image" (most of it unfair) so am sure that was another reason they decided to have OK!TV replace it. He wouldn't want something that had the image of "bad/awful" being sponsored by OK! mag.
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Old 11-02-2011, 16:05
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and having one of the regulars hosts of LfS5, launching OK!TV is hardly going to help the shows image.
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Old 11-02-2011, 16:05
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I think there's every reason to wish that Desmond's rather down-market views for a terrestrial channel fails. I don't like the mags and newspapers he produces (except for the Asian porn, obviously) and would rather not see a channel promoting poor journalism and crass slebs.

Just my point of view
Especially when he's fine with one of his publications printing this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/gree...defence-league

He makes money by producing and selling undeniable shit. There's no doubt he'll be doing with Five what he did with his publications. He deserves no respect.
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Old 11-02-2011, 16:07
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Firstly, promotion hasn't been poor, it has been extensive across the entire C5 network, albeit one short ad but used excessively. Secondly, how do you know the format is the same? Not much info has been released. Let's see on Monday shall we before we jump to any convenient conclusions.

As for ratings, it will probably do the usual 0.3-0.4m. Zoo Days has been rating in that sort of area this week so I see no reason why that would suddenly change. If OK! TV is to be a success, it will need time to grow its audience, because C5 hasn't faired well in that slot for a long time.
Well having once ad on CH5 excessively isn't going to get the job done, they need to do what Sky do and have it promoted on build-boards etc... That's what I mean by poor.

And its already been announced that the show will be a mix of "big name interviews, gossip and celebrity banter" The same type of format Studio 5 had.
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Old 11-02-2011, 16:08
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Especially when he's fine with one of his publications printing this:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/gree...defence-league
that is shocking, I can understand reporting on the EDL, the Daily Star is far from the first paper to do that, but to come out in favour, is very shocking.
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Old 11-02-2011, 16:08
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and having one of the regulars hosts of LfS5, launching OK!TV is hardly going to help the shows image.
I agree, the show is already off to a bad start.

They need to work their backsides off and promote the show outside of ad's on Channel 5 to make it work.
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Old 11-02-2011, 16:10
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I agree, the show is already off to a bad start.

They need to work their backsides off and promote the show outside of ad's on Channel 5 to make it work.
I assume its being promoted in the other Northen & Shell products
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