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The Ratings Thread (Part 17)
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ftv
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Same old story there as well, big news event, people go to Breakfast.

The Wright Stuff is doing well on Five, unlike The Vanessa Show. How has Zoo Days been doing in the 6:30pm slot this week? Just wondering if it's possible that OK! TV could actually do worse than it.

Hope The Chase continues winning the 5pm slot, although it doesn't appear to be gaining viewers at the moment.”

Daybreak is never going to compete with the BBC when a big story breaks overnight, they just don't have the resources or journalistic firepower, they would be better advised handing coverage over to ITN. It was a failing of both TVAM and GMTV too and quite ridiculous to try to set up a rival news operation within ITV.
rzt
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“How has Zoo Days been doing in the 6:30pm slot this week?”

This week, Zoo Days averaged:

Mon- 280k (1.3%)
Tue- 297k (1.4%)
Wed- 380k (1.8%)
Thu- 325k (1.6%)
Fri- 377k (1.8%)
Brekkie
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“So not only is it rating well on first airing, but it is also rating very well on repeat. Only 88,000 behind the preceding programme, 10 O'Clock Live.”

Firstly thanks for the BFGW repeat rating rzt. Secondly - is it doing well (yes, it's off-peak, but I expected around 1m myself), or just looking well due to 10 O'Clock Live under performing?

Originally Posted by rzt:
“Friday 11th February
BBC One
19:30- A Question of Sport: 4.25m (18.2%)

Channel 4
21:00- Embarrassing Bodies: 3.38m (14.2%) , +1: 530k
* 21:00-21:55: 3.45m (14.4%) , +1: 542k
22:00- The Million Pound Drop Live: 2.47m (13.9%) , +1: 225k
* 22:05-23:15: 2.49m (13.9%) , +1: 229k

Channel 5
13:45- Neighbours: 832k (10.7%)
14:15- Home & Away: 331k (4.5%)
17:30- Neighbours: 1.19m (6.9%)
18:00- Home & Away: 896k (4.5%)”

A Question of Sport must be getting near 7m then with it's Mon/Fri ratings combined. Frustrating really as IMO it's really gone down hill in the last couple of years and now suffers from the problem most comedy panel shows have in that the quiz is somewhat forgotten.


Good night for C4 - though personally I think I'd have Embarrassing Bodies on another night (actually personally it wouldn't air at all - it's gross!) and have Million Pound Drop from 9-10.30pm on Fri/Sat - and then have given a new comedy (Friday Night Dinner) the 10.30pm slot.


And C5 need to sort out the daytime airings of the soaps. Do we have any info on how Home and Away did before Neighbours came along and it was booted from 12.30pm to 2.15pm. I'm sure they'd perform better if Home and Away was at 1pm and Neighbours at 1.30pm - having a crucial head start on Doctors. (Although considering the 6.30pm ratings, the regional news may be tougher competition!).
Charnham
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Friday 11th February Overnights
BBC One

20:00- EastEnders: 8.15m (33.7%)

Channel 5

11:00- The Vanessa Show: 95k (1.8%)[/i]”

at the risk of upsettign anybody, The Vanessa Show is a utter Richard Desmon comissioned flop, it will mean OK! TV can say it isnt the worst show on the channel.

I agrre EastEnders is a bit low, people are most likely tried of Alife, I know I am. EastEnders has always given him more screen time than he deserves.

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Horrible rating for the TEN Evening News there.”

it comes to something when TEN is starting to miss Neighbours, the problem is taking it away from ELEVEN, would damge ELEVEN.
Nicola37
12-02-2011
Does anyone know the ratings for Sky 3's taster episodes of Cougar Town, An Idiot Abroad, Mad Dogs and Bedlam for yesterday evening please? Interested to see how many people tuned into them on the Weekend Pass, think they aired an episode of Got To Dance too
garyessex
12-02-2011
[quote=Brekkie;48069530]Firstly thanks for the BFGW repeat rating rzt. Secondly - is it doing well (yes, it's off-peak, but I expected around 1m myself), or just looking well due to 10 O'Clock Live under performing?


A Question of Sport must be getting near 7m then with it's Mon/Fri ratings combined. Frustrating really as IMO it's really gone down hill in the last couple of years and now suffers from the problem most comedy panel shows have in that the quiz is somewhat forgotten.


Good night for C4 - though personally I think I'd have Embarrassing Bodies on another night (actually personally it wouldn't air at all - it's gross!) and have Million Pound Drop from 9-10.30pm on Fri/Sat - and then have given a new comedy (Friday Night Dinner) the 10.30pm slot.


And C5 need to sort out the daytime airings of the soaps. Do we have any info on how Home and Away did before Neighbours came along and it was booted from 12.30pm to 2.15pm. I'm sure they'd perform better if Home and Away was at 1pm and Neighbours at 1.30pm - having a crucial head start on Doctors. (Although considering the 6.30pm ratings, the regional news may be tougher competition!).[/
QUOTE]

The mine problem with the scheduling is the 6.30 H&A airing is actually the 3rd screening. 800k have already watched H&A before the 6.30 showing which is often mainly reported. I think a

Mon
5.30 Neighbours *NEW*
6.00 H&A

5*
630 H&A First chance
700 Neighbours repeat

Tues
1300 H&A repeat
1330 Neighbours repeat

would work alot better.
rzt
12-02-2011
The episode of Big Fat Gypsy Weddings on Tuesday 1st February had an official audience of: 8.03m (9.33m inc. +1).

The 9.33m 'C4 Total' rating is the channel's highest since the final episode of Friends (9.64m, May 2004). The only two higher ratings on Channel 4 since the turn of the century are: 10.01m (BB3 final, 2002) and 9.45m (BB1 final, 2000). Given that the most recent episode shown had 0.7m more viewers than the episode above, it may well break the 10m mark and become C4's most watched programme this century. We'll most likely find out on Monday 21st February when BARB updates for the week.

Originally Posted by Nicola37:
“Does anyone know the ratings for Sky 3's taster episodes of Cougar Town, An Idiot Abroad, Mad Dogs and Bedlam for yesterday evening please? Interested to see how many people tuned into them on the Weekend Pass, think they aired an episode of Got To Dance too”

20:00- Cougar Town: 128k (0.5%)
21:00- Mad Dogs: 185k (0.8%)
22:00- An Idiot Abroad: 235k (1.2%)
23:00- Bedlam: 142k (1.2%)
Nicola37
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“The episode of Big Fat Gypsy Weddings on Tuesday 1st February had an official audience of: 8.03m (9.33m inc. +1).

The 9.33m 'C4 Total' rating is the channel's highest since the final episode of Friends (9.64m, May 2004). The only two higher ratings on Channel 4 since the turn of the century are: 10.01m (BB3 final, 2002) and 9.45m (BB1 final, 2000). Given that the most recent episode to air had 0.7m viewers than the episode above, it may well break the 10m mark and become C4's most watched programme this century. We'll most likely find out on Monday 21st February when BARB updates for the week.


20:00- Cougar Town: 128k (0.5%)
21:00- Mad Dogs: 185k (0.8%)
22:00- An Idiot Abroad: 235k (1.2%)
23:00- Bedlam: 142k (1.2%)”

Many thanks, interesting that An Idiot Abroad did the best.
D.M.N.
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“This week, Zoo Days averaged:

Mon- 280k (1.3%)
Tue- 297k (1.4%)
Wed- 380k (1.8%)
Thu- 325k (1.6%)
Fri- 377k (1.8%)”

Thanks.

Originally Posted by rzt:
“The episode of Big Fat Gypsy Weddings on Tuesday 1st February had an official audience of: 8.03m (9.33m inc. +1).

The 9.33m 'C4 Total' rating is the channel's highest since the final episode of Friends (9.64m, May 2004). The only two higher ratings on Channel 4 since the turn of the century are: 10.01m (BB3 final, 2002) and 9.45m (BB1 final, 2000). Given that the most recent episode to air had 0.7m viewers than the episode above, it may well break the 10m mark and become C4's most watched programme this century. We'll most likely find out on Monday 21st February when BARB updates for the week.”

Blimey!
mintchocchip
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“at the risk of upsettign anybody, The Vanessa Show is a utter Richard Desmon comissioned flop, it will mean OK! TV can say it isnt the worst show on the channel.

I agrre EastEnders is a bit low, people are most likely tried of Alife, I know I am. EastEnders has always given him more screen time than he deserves.

.”

I'm sick of a lot of the characters, they need to get some likeable ones. If fatboy had a proper storyline right now I'd watch, never thought I'd say that.
Charnham
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by mintchocchip:
“I'm sick of a lot of the characters, they need to get some likeable ones. If fatboy had a proper storyline right now I'd watch, never thought I'd say that.”

I think we starting to see the dip in ratings you would expect, from the show, now its been taken over by Bryan Kirkwood, who just isnt up to the job.
derek500
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“20:00- Cougar Town: 128k (0.5%)
21:00- Mad Dogs: 185k (0.8%)
22:00- An Idiot Abroad: 235k (1.2%)
23:00- Bedlam: 142k (1.2%)”

Lower than the officials for the normal Friday night offerings.

Give people quality for free and they still don't want it!!
Charnham
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by derek500:
“Lower than the officials for the normal Friday night offerings.

Give people quality for free and they still don't want it!!”

I am not sure An Idiot Abroad counts as quality

Moving on, I dont see why people watch Free Pass Weekends, whats the point of watching 1 episode of a series, when chances are you already know you are not going to get Sky afterwards.
D.M.N.
12-02-2011
rzt, do you have an EastEnders breakdown for yesterday - someone in the Soap Ratings Thread claiming it started earlier, presumably meaning it finished a tad earlier as well.
rzt
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“rzt, do you have an EastEnders breakdown for yesterday - someone in the Soap Ratings Thread claiming it started earlier, presumably meaning it finished a tad earlier as well.”

It started at exactly 8pm last night and ran for nearly its whole slot (29 mins), according to Attentional. Here's the breakdown:

19:55 - 4.84m (20.57%)
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20:00 - 8.08m (33.70%)
20:05 - 8.43m (34.92%)
20:10 - 8.47m (35.41%)
20:15 - 8.48m (34.78%)
20:20 - 8.56m (34.89%)
20:25 - 6.87m (28.64%)
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20:30 - 3.13m (12.73%)

At no point did EE pass 8.6m/36%+, which is a bit surprising.
derek500
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by Charnham:
“I am not sure An Idiot Abroad counts as quality ”

Excellent stuff. One of the best shows on TV last year.

What didn't you like about it?
D.M.N.
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“It started at exactly 8pm last night and ran for nearly its whole slot (29 mins), according to Attentional. Here's the breakdown:

19:55 - 4.84m (20.57%)
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20:00 - 8.08m (33.70%)
20:05 - 8.43m (34.92%)
20:10 - 8.47m (35.41%)
20:15 - 8.48m (34.78%)
20:20 - 8.56m (34.89%)
20:25 - 6.87m (28.64%)
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20:30 - 3.13m (12.73%)

At no point did EE pass 8.6m/36%+.”

Thanks rzt.
GeorgeS
12-02-2011
Anything for m/c last night ? particularly

ITV2 9-10pm American Idol
ITV3 9-11.15pm Frost
ITV4 10pm-12.55am James Bond Movie
rzt
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Anything for m/c last night ? particularly

ITV2 9-10pm American Idol
ITV3 9-11.15pm Frost
ITV4 10pm-12.55am James Bond Movie”

American Idol: 400k (1.7%) , +1: 73k
A Touch of Frost: 685k (3.3%) , +1: 40k
On Her Majesty's Secret Service: 252k (2.0%)
GeorgeS
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“American Idol: 400k (1.7%) , +1: 73k
A Touch of Frost: 685k (3.3%) , +1: 40k
On Her Majesty's Secret Service: 252k (2.0%)”

Not good for Idol really. Without Cowell its not a big pull for UK viewers anyway. Still I suppose its still one of ITV2s higher rating shows.
rzt
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Not good for Idol really. Without Cowell its not a big pull for UK viewers anyway. Still I suppose its still one of ITV2s higher rating shows.”

Yeah, it's still one of ITV2's best rating shows but going down their pecking order. Even Hell's Kitchen is outrating it in the overnights these days. As you say, it must be due to no Cowell involved because the series itself is one of the best ones in a while IMO.

Speaking of ITV2, The Only Way is Essex has got two series this year, the next one is starting on March 20/23rd and ITV are extending the episodes from 30 mins to 45 mins. I've got a feeling this show is going to break out during its next run - there's an awful lot of press some of the show's "stars" are getting at the moment and I imagine the press will feature them more during the new series than last year, which will probably boost the show's ratings.
Charnham
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Speaking of ITV2, The Only Way is Essex has got two series this year, the next one is starting on March 20/23rd and ITV are extending the episodes from 30 mins to 45 mins. I've got a feeling this show is going to break out during its next run - there's an awful lot of press some of the show's "stars" are getting at the moment and I imagine the press will feature them more during the new series than last year, which will probably boost its ratings.”

sadly I fear you are correct
RobbieSykes123
12-02-2011
There was an extensive interview with Danny Cohen in The Times yesterday, key points of which were:

- he wants BBC1 to not only remain the nation's best and most-watched channel, but also become "the best TV channel in the world"; no lowering of expectations there then!

- aim is "to vibrantly reinvent" the channel, wielding the axe where necessary to reinvest monies elsewhere (eg, Lark Rise) but he has no particular desire to drive down the age profile of BBC1's core audience

- "the audience don't like much loved things coming to an end but the audience won't thank us if the channel is the same in five years time"

- drama is a priority - he knows BBC1 needs hits; he'd "like to clone Steven Moffat"

- Cohen's first drama commissions include Morton (high concept spy drama), One Night (stripped 4 night event telly about anti-social behaviour and yob culture), Bound (drama about a group of prisoners' wives), Great Expectations, Call the Midwife (1950s East End set drama); recommissioning Upstairs Downstairs[I for 2012 - "not just because it rated well; it will be more creative and even better"

- he is not fixated with "working class comedy"; "being really funny comes first - I don't care where it's set if it's funny"

- he is trying to "lure some of the big names of British comedy back to BBC1" - his first success is getting Miranda to commit to BBC1 for the 3rd series

- acknowledges big gaps in entertainment - "we are looking to find a big new shiny floor show; it is one of the harder ones - talent is so crucial"

- won't be focusing on overseas acquisitions "other than big Christmas movies"; "it's not what we want to do"

- wants a return to "observational documentaries" at 9pm, more news reactive and fast turnaround, to join key brands such as The One Show and Watchdog

- Panorama is going to be looked at; he was interested in the interviewer's idea of a one hour magazine format at 8pm on Mondays with a live interview - the old-style format; he acknowledges it "needs to do something to stand out"

- David Dimbleby will remain "a big part" of BBC1's news and current affairs coverage: "he's brilliant, absolutely brilliant"

- Blue Peter is on too soon at 4.30pm

- hints that he wants Brucie to do another year on Strictly
D.M.N.
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by RobbieSykes123:
“- Panorama is going to be looked at; he was interested in the interviewer's idea of a one hour magazine format at 8pm on Mondays with a live interview - the old-style format; he acknowledges it "needs to do something to stand out"”

Well that involves moving EastEnders, and the chances of that happening, really?
RobbieSykes123
12-02-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Well that involves moving EastEnders, and the chances of that happening, really?”

Obviously nil.

The interviewer said 8pm Monday, Cohen engaged with the idea of an old style one hour magazine format.

Sorry, should have made that clearer in my paraphrasing.
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