Didnt know there was a Aussie version of You Have Been Watching in the making

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2011/02/...-watching.html

Sounds weird to me too, I suspect they new it was a stinker. Wasn't Waking the dead orginally supposed to be in that slot?

Yeah the tv Baftas used to alternate but ITV pulled out of them a few years ago.

Endemol own the format rights so I guess they sold it via Southern Star to Comedy Channel.

lets hope its better than the Aussie TV Burp

But that is ratings chasing - just done under a different description (making viewers happier!).

Credit must be given for the Crimewatch move, though. Alastair Campbell and Max Clifford would be proud of that one!

Maybe the original plan for Outcasts was:

Monday, Tuesday:
Monday, Tuesday:
Monday, Tuesday: (that's next week)
Tuesday (with Crimewatch on Monday)
Tuesday (with a stopgap on Monday)

then Waking The Dead starts.

And Silk on Friday.

Re Outcasts, I sympathise for both the BBC and the production team. It isn't ratings chasing, its understanding what works and what doesn't.

Unlike many US shows that get pulled, it's getting a new timeslot (My Generation and Lonestar were both pulled after two episodes of this season and haven't seen the light of day since).

Let's hope that some of their new dramas are good - their luck is similar to ITV's at the moment in terms of returnablility.

That was a bit different though as in 2006 when The Innocence Project was on Thursdays 8pm was a much better slot for BBC1, probably their best of the week, because it had the 'stEnders lead-in and was only opposite The Bill on ITV, rather than the soaps, so they could launch things like Waterloo Road and Bleak House there. In fact I thought they might show Doctor Who there when it started.

The convenient thing about The Innocence Project was it started it on November so they could simply drop it and pretend it was for Christmas, and everyone had forgotten about it by the time it came back in January. But it was supposed to be a long runner.

As for being ratings chasing, the Beeb have done this with dramas before. There was Castles in 1995, an "experimental" new soap which ran Tuesdays and Thursdays at 8.30 for three months, but flopped so badly they moved it to 7pm on Sundays.


Looks like ITV can't be bothered with the BAFTAs anymore, they last showed them in 2006 I think. The film BAFTAs have been on BBC1 for a decade now, ITV last showed them in 1998, then after the Beeb did them in 1999, they went to Sky, but that never worked out for them (I remember in 2001 they had highlights the following night on the Beeb) so they ended the contract early and gave them back to the Beeb after two years, and they've been there ever since.

Before 1998, of course, there was only one BAFTAs, with both the film and the telly, but seemingly they weren't rating well enough, I know ITV showed the 1996 one at 10pm on a Sunday, and the Beeb showed the 1997 one at 10pm too - on a Tuesday! And two and a half hours long! The only thing anyone remembers about that one is that Lenny Henry died on his arse as host.

In the case of the Brits, ITV and the Brits seem happy enough to renew the contract every few years, I suppose if the Beeb wanted it back they could if they bid enough.

In the good old days the film and tv BAFTAs were in the same broadcast and ITV/BBC alternated.

The film BAFTAs were live on Sky for a year or two with highlights on terrestrial.

With all the social media spoilers, it is ridiculous that they are not shown live.

I guess New Tricks will be dusted off once more then (well, after Crimewatch). I do think though they should just grin and bare it - after all ITV have had some absolute stinkers in recent years but let them play out. (It'll be interesting though how ITV schedule the final series of Primeval).


Really though is it any worse than Celebrity Cash in the Attic or the numerous other shows the BBC show which are exactly the same?


That's the price you pay for fast tracking - and most US shows will go into another hiatus after the February sweeps before returning for their final few episodes in mid-April.

I did think though Glory Daze was destined to replace Tool Academy after Glee.

Sitcoms and crime dramas don't really benefit from fast tracking because missing an episode isn't that big a deal. I do think Channel 5 should have premiered The Mentalist in January rather than October.

yes the show is worse than Celebrity Cash in the Attic.



even so I think both shows would have ran the rest of the series, without any big hassle, they certainly dont need to be taking an extended break like this.

There was what I thought was a rather sad article in the Mirror today with Adrian pleading for people to watch Daybreak and saying they got the launch wrong in a big way.

Maybe the BAFTA's are just a bit too high brow to be Cowellised-arena, rentamob screaming, Dermot ,Cheryl, a half dressed Alexandra Burke and all.

Is Waking The Dead due back in March on BBC ONE?
And if they play it on a Monday will it clash with Law and Order: UK which is due back on ITV1 on Monday's????

I am actually sticking with Outcasts, but I dont know what the BBC ever thought they were going to gain from what I imagine was a considerable investment. It hints too much at Survivors which was very tired and to be frank laughable at the end. The trouble is that sticking a new drama on another planet is an immediate turn off for too many of the regulation 9.00 audience.

Unlikely that Waking the Dead will return in March (early part of the month anyway) because the Tuesday slots for the potential 2nd-parters are currently filled up with Silk. I think it'll return in April on either Mon/Tue or Thu/Fri so yep, potentially an ITV1 drama will clash against it.

Edit: Actually now that Outcasts has been pulled early, it could air on Sun/Mon in March too, after South Riding ends. So yep, March is a possibility and like you've said, an ITV drama like LOUK might face it.

heh.. not for me - too late for a school night.

The first episode was awful, and with so many channels to chose from now, people just aren't going to invest in something that needs time to get going.

Like you I don't understand how they could spend so much time and effort on something only for it to be so poor. Did they not have focus groups? But if it took that long to make a first series, what were they planning for a second series? A massive budget cut? Or to make viewers wait a couple of years?

I was planning to watch all of it but I think it's going to be axed and I don't want to get invested in a show that's going to leave me hanging (again).

Well it can't be until at least 14th March and that's if they go with the Sunday/Monday split, and if they go with Monday/Tuesday then it'll be later still. Either way, Law and Order will have already started so it'll have had time to get a solid audience ahead of WTD. I think another option could be Thursday/Friday for WTD but I guess it'll depend on ITV's offerings.

Is Law and Order definitely going on Mondays? Good move if so as it suffered a bit on Thursdays. Hopefully Monroe will take Thursdays after Marchlands.

I hadn't realised that's what they were doing with it. I love BBT & HIMYM - they surely can't be dumping them??

That said, I am looking forward to watching Glory Daze. Or rather, listening to it! The soundtrack is right up my street and whenever I hear the opening to Relax it puts a shiver up my spine.

Umless they have to move Silk to 10.25 on Sundays.

Form an orderly queue.

Very foolish mistake by E4. The Big Bang Theory repeats on the 27th January and 3rd February were the 6th and 5th most watched programmes on the channel in their respective weeks.

It's one of those rare programmes on digital which will rate well on repeat. (see also Go! in Australia) Taking it off air for a new show is ridiculous, Glory Daze could have gone anywhere.

Honestly, no idea what they were thinking. Glory Daze will be very lucky to rate as well as TBBT, even with the latter on repeats...

Bazinga

Just watching Mad Dogs again on Sky1HD. It is brilliant.
Could it hit 1.3m/1.4m on the overnights on Friday morning after the next new episode?
Will be interesting to see what the comedy zone does next Friday as well.