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The Ratings Thread (Part 17)
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C14E
24-02-2011
#1 - FOX - 22.60m (7.9)
8pm - American Idol - 22.60m (7.9)
* Down 12% from same episode last year
* #1 show of the night (and week) in viewers & adults 18-49

#2 - CBS - 11.51m (3.0)
8pm - Survivor - 11.16m (3.3)
* Up 3% from last weeks series low premiere episode
9pm - Criminal Minds - 13.44m (3.4)
* Most watched scripted show of the night
* Up 6% from last week
10pm - Criminal Minds: Suspect Behaviour - 9.92m (2.5)
* Down 24% in its second week

#3 - ABC - 6.75m (2.3)
8pm - The Middle - 8.07m (2.4)
* Up 4% from last week
8.30pm - Better With You - 5.85m (1.8)
* Hopes of renewal fading rapidly
9pm - Modern Family - 10.35m (4.1)
* Down 5% to season low
* #1 scripted show of the night among A18-49
* Trails Glee and NCIS this week in A18-49
9.30pm - Mr Sunshine - 6.46m (2.4)
* Down another 11%
* Has now lost 35% of its premiere audience in 2 weeks
10pm - Off The Map - 4.88m (1.7)
* Up 13% from last week but still awful

#4 - NBC - 5.42m (1.6)
8pm - Minute To Win It - 4.11m (1.2)
* Up 20% from last weeks series low
10pm - Law & Order: SVU - 8.04m (2.5)
* Tied CBS in the demo at 10pm

Tvbythenumbers

Tonight, Idol should post a double digit y-o-y increase as the equivalent episode went head-to-head with a key event at the Winter Olympics last year and slipped to a 6.9. The 2 hour run time should also lift ratings a bit (last weeks Thursday episode had a 7.6 rating).

The 2 hour Idol will also collide with Grey's Anatomy, CSI and The Office.
Jonwo
24-02-2011
Not good for CMSB, if it continues to drop, it's a goner but I think CBS may see it as a blessing in disguise as they can pickup a new drama and/or renew a okay performing existing one.

Channel 5 wanting to produce their own Gypsy show isn't a surprise given how colossal the ratings for Gypsy Weddings were for Channel 4, it happened in the US when Pawn Stars and American Pickers started to get great ratings, TruTV produced Hardcore Pawn (I kid you not!) while Spike produced Auction Hunters. I reckon another Gypsy show would do well, not 6-7m but 2-3m at least.
seansnotmyname@
24-02-2011
Glee been adjusted up now, same as NCIS. Only mention it because there was a lot of gloating about NCIS beating Glee, on other websites, and comments.

NCIS is still a rating phenomenon, in numbers anyway, but we all know it's about the demo, rightly or wrongly.
rzt
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by sstripling:
“rzt, D.M.N or the like....

With all this talk of the Daybreak's rating's, I was just thinking, not sure if i've just dreamt this, but didn't we used to get Reach figures for GMTV ( and Breakfast for that matter). Obviously because of the nature of breakfast programmes the figures are a bit misleading as in general people only watch 10/15 mins on their way out to work etc. The 600,000 Daybreak and ~1.5m BBC Breakfast figures are the average are they not and realistically more people watch don't they?Hope you understand what I mean.

If these figures do actually exsist, do you have any Daybreak figures, and BBC Breakfast for comparison? ”

I don't have reach figures I'm afraid, but I read an article recently which said Daybreak's reach was something like 3m a day. That's down from the 4-5m (IIRC) that GMTV was getting last year.

Seems clear to me that Daybreak's ratings this week have been dented by half-term which is normally what happens to its (and used to happen to GMTV's) ratings when there's school holidays. It should be back up to its normal 0.7/0.8m level next week.
D.M.N.
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Looks like Have I Got News For You is moving back to Fridays according to its tickets website, as they're recording episodes on Thursdays: http://www.hattrick.co.uk/ticketing/...iesId=424&id=4

Likely date for its return is Friday 8th April. I think it'll be paired up with either My Family or BBC1's other new sitcom Meet The Doyles. I read somewhere that Outnumbered will be back in September rather than the Spring, although of course that could be wrong and it may well be coming back soon.”

And I bet you there will be an edition recorded on the afternoon of Friday 29th April to be shown later in the evening, obviously being a Royal Wedding special.
Originally Posted by sstripling:
“rzt, D.M.N or the like....

With all this talk of the Daybreak's rating's, I was just thinking, not sure if i've just dreamt this, but didn't we used to get Reach figures for GMTV ( and Breakfast for that matter). Obviously because of the nature of breakfast programmes the figures are a bit misleading as in general people only watch 10/15 mins on their way out to work etc. The 600,000 Daybreak and ~1.5m BBC Breakfast figures are the average are they not and realistically more people watch don't they?Hope you understand what I mean.

If these figures do actually exsist, do you have any Daybreak figures, and BBC Breakfast for comparison? ”

I don't think the reach figures are actually released by Attentional, I think the only way you'd be able to get them is via BBC or ITV directly. I maybe wrong, though.
Originally Posted by Cent:
“I think 600,000 during half-term is alright.

Didn't it drop to 300,000 over New Year?”

I think it dropped to about 450,000 if I remember correctly. The problem is with Daybreak that it may as well just give up during the holidays or when a major news story breaks, because it is quite frankly no competition to BBC Breakfast. No one in their right mind would watch Daybreak for instance to see how many people have not survived the New Zealand earthquake.
Andy23
24-02-2011
The reason Daybreak is down to 0.6 is because it is half term. It will return to normal levels next week.
sstripling
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“I don't have reach figures I'm afraid, but I read an article recently which said Daybreak's reach was something like 3m a day. That's down from the 4-5m (IIRC) that GMTV was getting last year.

Seems clear to me that Daybreak's ratings this week have been dented by half-term which is normally what happens to its (and GMTV's ratings) when there's school holidays. It should be back up to its normal 0.7/0.8m level next week.”

Thanks for your quick reply rzt!
Oh ok ( I'm not going mad! ), I just remember GMTV Reach figures being posted on here a few times and thought that perhaps they might show a truer picture of Daybreaks figures. Well based on your rough figures it seems to follow the same pattern as the lower average overnight figures.

Yeah the figures always seem to go down during the HT, Daybreak more than BBC Breakfast, due to the fact I suppose that Daybreak probably still has to an extent, like GMTV a bigger housewives etc audience who during HT wouldn't have to be up as early etc with the kids?

Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“And I bet you there will be an edition recorded on the afternoon of Friday 29th April to be shown later in the evening, obviously being a Royal Wedding special.

I don't think the reach figures are actually released by Attentional, I think the only way you'd be able to get them is via BBC or ITV directly. I maybe wrong, though.

I think it dropped to about 450,000 if I remember correctly. The problem is with Daybreak that it may as well just give up during the holidays or when a major news story breaks, because it is quite frankly no competition to BBC Breakfast. No one in their right mind would watch Daybreak for instance to see how many people have not survived the New Zealand earthquake.”

Oh yeah I wasn't saying that the figures were released by Attentional, but you and rzt obvioulsy being one of the main "know everything there is to know" about ratings that you might have /know where to find the Reach figures.

Thanks both of you's anyway.
sn_22
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by C14E:
“#1 - FOX - 22.60m (7.9)
8pm - American Idol - 22.60m (7.9)
* Down 12% from same episode last year
* #1 show of the night (and week) in viewers & adults 18-49

#2 - CBS - 11.51m (3.0)
8pm - Survivor - 11.16m (3.3)
* Up 3% from last weeks series low premiere episode
9pm - Criminal Minds - 13.44m (3.4)
* Most watched scripted show of the night
* Up 6% from last week
10pm - Criminal Minds: Suspect Behaviour - 9.92m (2.5)
* Down 24% in its second week

#3 - ABC - 6.75m (2.3)
8pm - The Middle - 8.07m (2.4)
* Up 4% from last week
8.30pm - Better With You - 5.85m (1.8)
* Hopes of renewal fading rapidly
9pm - Modern Family - 10.35m (4.1)
* Down 5% to season low
* #1 scripted show of the night among A18-49
* Trails Glee and NCIS this week in A18-49
9.30pm - Mr Sunshine - 6.46m (2.4)
* Down another 11%
* Has now lost 35% of its premiere audience in 2 weeks
10pm - Off The Map - 4.88m (1.7)
* Up 13% from last week but still awful

#4 - NBC - 5.42m (1.6)
8pm - Minute To Win It - 4.11m (1.2)
* Up 20% from last weeks series low
10pm - Law & Order: SVU - 8.04m (2.5)
* Tied CBS in the demo at 10pm

Tvbythenumbers”


Momentum seems to have sapped from the ABC comedy block a little bit. Concerning trend for Mr Sunshine - I suppose MF hitting a season low before it can't have helped.

Also, a pretty big drop for Criminal Minds: Suspect Behaviour. I expected that one to stay nice and solid given its slot. 2.5 is not really CBS's definition of success, though I suppose the 10pm hour is generally weaker. It needs to hold steady from here.
Pizzatheaction
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Looks like Have I Got News For You is moving back to Fridays according to its tickets website, as they're recording episodes on Thursdays: http://www.hattrick.co.uk/ticketing/...iesId=424&id=4

Likely date for its return is Friday 8th April. I think it'll be paired up with either My Family or BBC1's other new sitcom Meet The Doyles. I read somewhere that Outnumbered will be back in September rather than the Spring, although of course that could be wrong and it may well be coming back soon.”

Interesting. I hope they go with My Family, because they have enough new episodes to (more than) match the number of HIGNFY eps. Otherwise, we'll see HIGNFY paired with repeats of something else for the last few weeks of the series.
rzt
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Any figures for the 5pm's ?”

Yesterday in the 5pm slot:

BBC1- The Weakest Link: 1.89m
BBC2- Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is: 2.12m
ITV1- The Chase (exc. HD): 2.52m
CH4- Come Dine with Me: 2.28m
CH5- Five News at 5: 827k

Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“Interesting. I hope they go with My Family, because they have enough new episodes to (more than) match the number of HIGNFY eps. Otherwise, we'll see HIGNFY paired with repeats of something else for the last few weeks of the series. ”

How many episodes of My Family are in the can, Pizza ? I remember you told me, but I forgot!
Jonwo
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Yesterday in the 5pm slot:

BBC1- The Weakest Link: 1.89m
BBC2- Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is: 2.12m
ITV1- The Chase (exc. HD): 2.52m
CH4- Come Dine with Me: 2.28m
CH5- Five News at 5: 827k”

5pm is very competive, 5 News does okay and I doubt Channel 5 could replace it with a show that could act as lead in for Neighbours. ]
Pizzatheaction
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Yesterday in the 5pm slot:

BBC1- The Weakest Link: 1.89m
BBC2- Put Your Money Where Your Mouth Is: 2.12m
ITV1- The Chase (exc. HD): 2.52m
CH4- Come Dine with Me: 2.28m
CH5- Five News at 5: 827k


How many episodes of My Family are in the can, Pizza ? I remember you told me, but I forgot!”

13, if the official website is to be believed. But, their ratings reports came with a pinch of salt.
PJMillar
24-02-2011
Good decision on Have I Got News For You - it has always suited Friday nights and it's a good move - hopefully the sign of a Danny Cohen wider schedule restructure.

Despite the lack-of-lead-in now Coronation Street occupies the 8.30pm slot on ITV, the show continued to sparkle.

BBC and ITV can work together to ensure each other's survival - by offering sensible alternatives to each other within reason wherever possible.

Friday's are an example - BBC One can do comedy between 8.30pm and 10pm, while ITV could offer a mix of live sport, good old-fashioned drama.

Do to Friday what's happening on Sunday's - even though the BBC has never been able to call the shots, there's an unbelievable range of programmes on offer and that's why in the 8pm slot, you've got Antiques Roadshow getting 6m, Top Gear getting 6m and The X Factor getting 14m - which is amazing.

We'd never see that on a Friday - but it'd be a good way for BBC One and ITV to retain their audiences.

This would be harder on days like Monday and Thursday's, when both channels tend to air 9pm drama - and the BBC knows that if Life on Mars was shown on a Monday consistently, it would've done very very very well.

If Life on Mars was repeated on BBC One now, it would probably do very well - because it's good quality and long-lasting.

The BBC is not as ratings obsessed as much as you all believe. Some execs are, I've had personal experience of that - but I think the Accused recommission is proof that what is an outstanding creation merely intends to offer quality to the masses.
rzt
24-02-2011
ITV are doing a talent show this summer for kids:
Quote:
“BORN TO SHINE...A new ITV series is looking for YOU!

Are you top of the league, super talented, the best in the business and a star in the making?

We are looking for talented youngsters, across a range of singing, dancing and musical skills, for a new ITV show Born to Shine … this summer’s exciting new series featuring a mix of live performance, celebrity challenges, guest stars and public voting.

If you are between the ages of 10 – 14 we want to hear from you for an exciting opportunity to perform live to the nation.

This will be your opportunity to shine in your skill as well as the ultimate challenge; teaching a celebrity to make your moves.

You’ll be up against stiff competition with other super-talented young stars each with their own celebrity protégé all hoping to get through to the final stages of the competition.

Source”

Cent
24-02-2011
Anyone know how the comedy Mrs Browns Boys did on BBC1 Scotland this week?

Seems to have got a really good reaction up here. BBC2 would be smart to give it an airing nationwide - it's probably the best comedy to come from BBC Scotland since Rab C Nesbitt or Still Game.
rzt
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by Cent:
“Anyone know how the comedy Mrs Browns Boys did on BBC1 Scotland this week?

Seems to have got a really good reaction up here. BBC2 would be smart to give it an airing nationwide - it's probably the best comedy to come from BBC Scotland since Rab C Nesbitt or Still Game.”

Mrs Brown's Boys was shown UK-wide on Monday 10:35pm on BBC1. It had 2.6 million viewers.
D.M.N.
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“ITV are doing a talent show this summer for kids:”

So basically Children's Got Talent. Why? Pointless and is redundant because of BGT.
rzt
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“So basically Children's Got Talent. Why? Pointless and is redundant because of BGT.”

There's only so many formats left to do. I suppose no broadcaster has actually tried doing a kids-only talent show recently so they might as well see how it goes. Viewers might want to watch a live entertainment/talent show at that time of the year when nothing else is usually on (apart from lame gameshows), so you never know, it could become a surprise hit ...
Cent
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Mrs Brown's Boys was shown UK-wide on Monday 10:35pm on BBC1. It had 2.6 million viewers.”

Ha - oh well then. Glad everyone gets to see it.
excel99
24-02-2011
Re half term - in some parts of England it was last week
Brekkie
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Channel 5 reportedly now wants to do their own Gypsy reality show:”

No surprise there then.

Originally Posted by PJMillar:
“Good decision on Have I Got News For You - it has always suited Friday nights and it's a good move - hopefully the sign of a Danny Cohen wider schedule restructure.”

Is it - the BBC comedy hour has been performing pretty well on Thursdays and I think HIGNFY has actually been boosted by the move.
Steve Williams
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Just a note - EastEnders does not 'lose' an episode due to Comic Relief, nor will it be displaced. Not sure how long it is, but there is definitely an episode airing during Comic Relief on Friday 18th March.”

I am 99.9999999999% certain there is not, that's a cock-up on the Press Office site. Where would it go?
Charnham
24-02-2011
We know there will be a EE mini episode as part of Comic Relief which focuses on Whitney (as does the BBC Press listing) but I would be surprised if it gets a fixed time.

I am not sure if that mini episode is instead of the 4th 30 minute one, or if that week we will only get 3x30 minute episodes and the mini.
Charnham
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“There's only so many formats left to do. I suppose no broadcaster has actually tried doing a kids-only talent show recently so they might as well see how it goes. Viewers might want to watch a live entertainment/talent show at that time of the year when nothing else is usually on (apart from lame gameshows), so you never know, it could become a surprise hit ...”

I cant tell you how many times I read the show description and said "ill pass"
rzt
24-02-2011
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“I am 99.9999999999% certain there is not, that's a cock-up on the Press Office site. Where would it go?”

It's a 10-minute special episode as part of Comic Relief apparently: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eastender...icrelief.shtml
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