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The Ratings Thread (Part 17)
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Andy23
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by Georged123:
“You at BBC1's ratings, which was mostly repeats. but got an 18% primetime share.

I cant remember any s or you making a big deal when ITV1 got a 14% primetime share on Tuesday.”

Because that's normal, most people like to comment on ratings that are unusual.

(Besides the people who still comment on Daybreak's 0.7m every day since September)

Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I was also surprised that he included Graham Norton in that. GN's rating looked very robust to me. ”

I didn't.
Jonwo
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by PJMillar:
“Sorry - that's a terrible thing to say - doesn't the normal series still run on BBC1?”

Not sure, I'm not a fan of the Famous, Rich and.... but the Comic Relief documentaries are often very good. People often moan about the likes of Comic Relief and Children in Need but it's one night every year or two years and raises a lot of money for charity.
Fudd
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“I've noticed in the last couple of years, BBC One has gone from repeating each New Tricks series once in primetime to repeating each series twice in primetime. That's too much, IMO.”

I think it's hurting the show as well. There's a risk of New Tricks being over-saturated in the schedules.
Dancc
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by Pizzatheaction:
“QI needs a rest.”

Tell that to Dave, who play host to a 5 hour marathon of QI this evening.
D.M.N.
26-02-2011
Looking ahead to tonight, I think ITV have utterly ballsed up with their scheduling; should have moved their entire schedule 10 minutes forward so TV Burp starts at 18:50 to capitalise on Let's Dance not starting until 19:00 because of the Rugby.

Regardless of the clash, Push the Button clashes with Let's Dance for 50 minutes tonight, that has one result written all over it. Won't be surprised to see it under 5m again in the overnights.
Dancc
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I didn't.”

Well you said "whole evening" and Graham was included in the bit you quoted, so it looked that way. Would it have hurt to say "except Graham" just to be clear, or were you only interested in highlighting the underperforming parts of the BBC One schedule?
PJMillar
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Not sure, I'm not a fan of the Famous, Rich and.... but the Comic Relief documentaries are often very good. People often moan about the likes of Comic Relief and Children in Need but it's one night every year or two years and raises a lot of money for charity.”

Nah there's no overkill from my point of view anyway - I just don't see the appeal of the Famous, Rich and... brand - well I do but I think it's still a bit BBC Three - or ITV1 9pm Tuesday nights.
Pizzatheaction
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I think it's hurting the show as well. There's a risk of New Tricks being over-saturated in the schedules.”

Well, something's knocked 1m viewers off the repeats, and 1m off the new episodes, so I wouldn't be surprised if this is the main reason for the drop.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Tell that to Dave, who plays host to a 5 hour marathon of QI this evening. ”

Dancc
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Looking ahead to tonight, I think ITV have utterly ballsed up with their scheduling; should have moved their entire schedule 10 minutes forward so TV Burp starts at 18:50 to capitalise on Let's Dance not starting until 19:00 because of the Rugby.”

I could see Let's Dance doing very well and possibly even growing week-on-week with the lead-in it is likely to get from the rugby. It was a good game, not quite the emphatic victory of 2 weeks ago obviously for England but noone expected that against France. It should rate excellently with all the buildup there has been.
Jonwo
26-02-2011
England's success in the Six Nations bodes well for the Rugby World Cup but most of the matches will be in the morning or overnight due to the time differences with New Zealand, the best comparison for ratings will be the 2003 World Cup which was in Australia.
D.M.N.
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“England's success in the Six Nations bodes well for the Rugby World Cup but most of the matches will be in the morning or overnight due to the time differences with New Zealand, the best comparison for ratings will be the 2003 World Cup which was in Australia.”

Well it should do better than Daybreak I guess...
cylon6
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“While the gap is of course closer between the BBC and ITV News, I can't help but think considering the News has been back at Ten since 2008, that it should really be edging ahead of BBC when it has a lead-in 5m more than the opposition.”

ITV only closes the gap depending on the lead in. Other days the gap between the two programmes is huge. Even with huge lead ins, News At Ten doesn't always benefit from this, and other times it does. I'm at a loss to understand why. ITV's News At Ten editorially has been a much stronger show editorially and is fully deserving of its RTS award for News Programme Of The Year. The BBC Ten O'Clock News used to win fairly regularly but standards have dipped for me.
Brekkie
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by Roscoe Barnes:
“Pretty poor for H&A, but that second episode was always going to rate low. A shame too as since it's return, it's been very watchable IMO after a dreadful 2010.”

Firstly, no doubt Home and Away was awful last year and ratings both here and in Australia have reflected that. However, I do wonder how much of an impact bringing Neighbours over to Five has actually damaged it as they are now very much tarred with the same brush, despite being quite different products and when Home and Away is at it's best, it's in a completely different league to Neighbours which has never really been anything more than just a soap, rarely making the move into drama.

I would say here if Corrie and EastEnders - who both have a different approach to soap (one is a perfect mix of comedy and drama, the other is the perfect mix of misery and shouting!) they'd probably damage each other rather than help each other.

Originally Posted by Charnham:
“im not saying dont air Glory Daze, just dont cancel two shows with a long term future, for one that has none.

You don't see Tesco kicking out big name brands and replacing them with food they know has failed elsewhere, and they wont get anymore of.”

They've not cancelled them - they've just taken them out of the schedule for a few weeks. And it's actually a common supermarket tactic for products they can't shift to be put in the place of something they can shift so people looking for one thing are tempted to try another - and that's exactly what they're doing with Glory Daze. They obviously feel it'll appeal to a similar audience to The Big Bang Theory and How I Met Your Mother, so are putting it in that slot to try and capture that audience.

The fact it's been axed is irrelevant - E4 bought it before it was axed as it's a show which clearly fits into it's schedule, whether for one series or ten. Within ten weeks the comedy double can be reinstated - even earlier if Glory Daze doesn't perform well in the slot, and with Skins ending three weeks in I wouldn't be surprised if How I Met Your Mother at least doesn't resurface in the 10pm slot.

As for the fast tracking element - going on a hunch here rather than any stats, but I suspect it's far less of an issue with US comedy than it is with drama simply due to most sitcom episodes effectively being standalone pieces.

Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“Friday Night Dinner was good but I wish Channel 4 would have a comedy block on Fridays rather than stick a single comedy at 10pm, Embarrasing Bodies would do well Monday-Thursday anyway and they move 10 O'Clock Live to Fridays after two comedies either British or American.”

Although I'm not sure 10 O'Clock Live would be right for Fridays, I agree it is time C4 made Friday nights there own again. It doesn't need to be exclusively comedy, but it should all be entertainment based - so no factual stuff at all.

An entertainment format at 9pm, British sitcom at 10pm, comedy format at 10.30pm and then something to round off the night in the 11pm hour (even if it's a repeat) would finish the week off nicely.
D.M.N.
26-02-2011
ITV running early for some reason....

18:58 to 19:25 - TV Burp
19:27 - Push the Button
Jonwo
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by Brekkie:
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Although I'm not sure 10 O'Clock Live would be right for Fridays, I agree it is time C4 made Friday nights there own again. It doesn't need to be exclusively comedy, but it should all be entertainment based - so no factual stuff at all.

An entertainment format at 9pm, British sitcom at 10pm, comedy format at 10.30pm and then something to round off the night in the 11pm hour (even if it's a repeat) would finish the week off nicely.”

I think with a few tweaks, 10 O'Clock Live could work but it's struggling on Thursdays and it doesn't help Channel 4 gave it an extended run of 15 episodes. The Friday/Sunday Night Project was good but I can't see them bringing it back with new presenters.

Chattyman would be good on Fridays but it would be dented by Graham Norton unless they aired it when Graham Norton isn't on.
T Penery
26-02-2011
I know twitter isn't that reliable to predict ratings but half of the top ten trends in the UK at the moment all belong to Let's Dance.
vinegar vera
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by KennyT:
“w/e 13/2/11:
Code:
1 	THE KILLING (SAT 2101) 	524
2 	REGGAE BRITANNIA (FRI 2101) 	496
3 	THE BEAUTY OF BOOKS (MON 2031) 	483
4 	THE KILLING (SAT 2200) 	466
K”

Many thanks
D.M.N.
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“I think with a few tweaks, 10 O'Clock Live could work but it's struggling on Thursdays and it doesn't help Channel 4 gave it an extended run of 15 episodes. The Friday/Sunday Night Project was good but I can't see them bringing it back with new presenters.

Chattyman would be good on Fridays but it would be dented by Graham Norton unless they aired it when Graham Norton isn't on.”

The only problem with Thursdays was that it is up against Question Time, effectively splitting the potential audience.
Score
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“ITV running early for some reason....

18:58 to 19:25 - TV Burp
19:27 - Push the Button”

To complete this:

19:27 to 20:41 - Push The Button
20:44 to 21:53 - Take Me Out

Don't know why they started early, particularly as Take Me Out is such a short show for it's slot (always 68-69 mins in a 75 minute slot).

They've just ran 5 minutes of just ITV trailers with Bond starting 2 minutes early. Pretty poor planning really.

On another note, I see they've started advertising Law and Order, Monroe and Caroline Quentin. They've gone for a different, more action-focused angle with Law and Order, probably to try and win some viewers back. Monroe looked good too.
Sally Linz
26-02-2011
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Well you said "whole evening" and Graham was included in the bit you quoted, so it looked that way. Would it have hurt to say "except Graham" just to be clear, or were you only interested in highlighting the underperforming parts of the BBC One schedule?”

It's best to rise above.

Immature trolls are beneath you.
fodg09
27-02-2011
ITV 'on course' to record pre-tax profits of £300m thanks largely to a resurgence in the advertising market.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2...ing?CMP=twt_fd
Charnham
27-02-2011
I do wonder how much of that is to do with the ad market picking up, or becasue of the new execs.
PJMillar
27-02-2011
Something for Sunday Morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxYBpZ70y70
mattpinder
27-02-2011
Originally Posted by rzt:
“Channel 5
13:45- Neighbours: 688k (7.9%)
17:30- Neighbours: 1.17m (7.2%)
18:00- Home & Away: 719k (3.9%)
18:30- Home & Away: 670k (3.4%)
20:00- Ice Road Truckers: 1.27m (5.4%)
21:00- The Mentalist: 1.07m (4.6%)
22:00- Law & Order: 1.03m (5.3%)”

Will someone please pull the plug on this silly little 3rd rate channel? I mean come on, 15 years now and have they ever made/produced/shown anything of note?

Ok, Family Affairs was decent for about a week and Jack Docherty did manage to put me to sleep until he was axed but...

ftv
27-02-2011
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“ITV only closes the gap depending on the lead in. Other days the gap between the two programmes is huge. Even with huge lead ins, News At Ten doesn't always benefit from this, and other times it does. I'm at a loss to understand why. ITV's News At Ten editorially has been a much stronger show editorially and is fully deserving of its RTS award for News Programme Of The Year. The BBC Ten O'Clock News used to win fairly regularly but standards have dipped for me.”

Yet the BBC NAT consistently gets more than double the audience of the ITV version - viewers vote with their remotes
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