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Old 09-02-2011, 21:15
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Whilst I don't disagree that Paul Marquess has came leaps and bounds with hollyoaks and it has improved since Lucy allen's time... I dunno... I'm still not sold and beginning to get really fed up to the point of turning off...

In particular...
[LIST] All the rushed storylines
bonfire week - mashing up storylines
I'm still not convinced with Ste being gay either, I'm sorry
All these ghosts from Brendan's past showing up, all the time!
Axing Rob - fatal mistake. There was so much potential for the O'connor family and now, its like What is the point?!
Giving the teen centric storylines to Esther and Ruby when Sinead would be a far better candidate!
Really sensationalist storylines just coming out of nowhere - the upcoming rape storyline for instance - half of it is so unbelievable
Not enough Duncan!
Suzanne and the twins...
The list could go on and on...
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Old 09-02-2011, 21:19
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Totally agree with your points, especially the Sinead one. Also India's murder :yawn:
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Old 09-02-2011, 21:33
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I saw a bit of the omnibus the other day after a good year at least not watching, I found it to be terrible. Really bad
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Old 09-02-2011, 21:37
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I saw a bit of the omnibus the other day after a good year at least not watching, I found it to be terrible. Really bad
Me too, although I stopped watching about two years ago, and I caught a bit of the omnibus and I just found it terrible, poor acting and poor storylines. I also don't buy Ste being gay, he's been in it years and was an incredibly violent and controlling partner to Amy and now we're expected to believe he's gay. I don't think it's helped with this (from what I saw) 2D relationship with Brendan.
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Old 09-02-2011, 21:52
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Watch it C4 6.30 Tommorow.. it's brilliant.
Save it from the axe.
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Old 09-02-2011, 21:55
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Hollyoaks is still terrible in my opinion. It's improved yes, but that doesn't make it good.
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Old 09-02-2011, 21:58
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I've stuck up for Marquess a lot and still think he has been fantastic compared to the Allan era, but I have begun to find it a bit tiring recently. Its picked up this week though.
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Old 09-02-2011, 22:09
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Whilst I don't disagree that Paul Marquess has came leaps and bounds with hollyoaks and it has improved since Lucy allen's time... I dunno... I'm still not sold and beginning to get really fed up to the point of turning off...

In particular...
[LIST] All the rushed storylines
bonfire week - mashing up storylines
I'm still not convinced with Ste being gay either, I'm sorry
All these ghosts from Brendan's past showing up, all the time!
Axing Rob - fatal mistake. There was so much potential for the O'connor family and now, its like What is the point?!
Giving the teen centric storylines to Esther and Ruby when Sinead would be a far better candidate!
Really sensationalist storylines just coming out of nowhere - the upcoming rape storyline for instance - half of it is so unbelievable
Not enough Duncan!
Suzanne and the twins...
The list could go on and on...
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I like how you're focusing on the negatives and ignoring the postives.

Brendan- Excellent every scene of his is enjoyable
Kyle's revenge- This has been outstanding so far this week and i have enjoyed every minute of it!
Jasmines GID- Although Jason has been off-screen for a while the storyline is very strong and Victoria Atkin potrays in unbelievably
Darren & Nancy- Great i think Suzzane coming has proved how much Darren has changed and i can't wait to see how Darren plans to get her back
Silas- Great actor and every conversation he has you're interested in what he has to say.
Warren and Brendan- The two having this fued with one another is going to be epic!
Ste and Brendan- Excellent Stedan is getting a great reaction from the fans.

I also dont see how rape is a sensational storyline, happens all the time and you don't know the full storyline so no point in knocking it.
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Old 09-02-2011, 22:30
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I stopped watching Hollyoaks about 3 years ago, ever since the John Paul/Craig storyline finished up and since then whenever I've dipped in, I've felt really bored watching it and could never get into the storylines or any of the new characters. Last month I was very bored and watched an episode of Hollyoaks after the Simpsons and straight away got very addicted to it. I completely fell in love with the Bart/Jason/Jasmine storyline and even watched all the catch up episodes. That storyline has been serious, angsty, depressing and brilliantly acted and it's the only reason that I started re-watching Hollyoaks. But since then I've started liking most of the characters and really enjoy watching the show. The Brendan/Ste storyline has especially grown on me, and I'm now slightly obsessed with both them and Hollyoaks. I did find Ste being gay unconvincing at first but seeing how much chemistry Ste and Brendan have, I believe he is gay.

Although I do have to agree with some of the OP's post; they're are too many storylines and most of them are very rushed, things do seem disjointed now and big plot points do seem to be missed during the setup of a story. They just need to slow it down a bit, start building more tension to some storylines and have more lighthearted plots,like they used to, but I'm really enjoying Hollyoaks at the moment so I can't wholeheartedly agree.
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Old 09-02-2011, 22:34
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I stopped watching Hollyoaks about 3 years ago, ever since the John Paul/Craig storyline finished up and since then whenever I've dipped in, I've felt really bored watching it and could never get into the storylines or any of the new characters. Last month I was very bored and watched an episode of Hollyoaks after the Simpsons and straight away got very addicted to it. I completely fell in love with the Bart/Jason/Jasmine storyline and even watched all the catch up episodes. That storyline has been serious, angsty, depressing and brilliantly acted and it's the only reason that I started re-watching Hollyoaks. But since then I've started liking most of the characters and really enjoy watching the show. The Brendan/Ste storyline has especially grown on me, and I'm now slightly obsessed with both them and Hollyoaks. I did find Ste being gay unconvincing at first but seeing how much chemistry Ste and Brendan have, I believe he is gay.

Although I do have to agree with some of the OP's post; they're are too many storylines and most of them are very rushed, things do seem disjointed now and big plot points do seem to be missed during the setup of a story. They just need to slow it down a bit, start building more tension to some storylines and have more lighthearted plots,like they used to, but I'm really enjoying Hollyoaks at the moment so I can't wholeheartedly agree.
Such a great post. This is completely my experience. Yes, there are some issues with the way the SL's have been paced and some gaps, like everything is being thrown at you in a rush (which it is).

But overall, it has dragged me back in, completely, for all the reasons you say. Mainly Brendan/Ste, but also Jas/Bart, and the likeability of the whole cast. Even the murderer ...
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Old 09-02-2011, 23:38
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I think it might be the reason that there wasn't a huge effort put in to keeping him around. He seems to be good at coming in with an oustiders P.O.V fixing things and leaving it at that.

He axed the right people, bought in some brilliant characters and ideas but once the dust had settled from all that it went a bit wrong, he's not good as a long-term producer because he's too over the top with things.

Everytime he gets a show he makes it into a new show in the same setting. I think perhaps execs clocked onto this around November. Everyone (except India and Anita) that was going had gone and it was around that time all the nonsense with chopping and changing things started, once all the 'major revamp' plans had taken part and it came down to running the show again.

It can be fixed, it's not damaged majorly but they just need to filter out some crap. Between the regular and recurring cast there's 60 people plus 3 returning and 3 arriving with no signs of any exits coming up.

They need to trim it back to 30 regulars (McQueens, Some of the students, Costellos, O'Connors, Osbournes, The Loft crew) and then do what BK done well and bring in characters for the story arcs they were involved in and dump them again after that.

We didn't need The O'Connors just yet they could've come in now and worked much better, it was too much change too quick and it hasn't allowed time for half the characters to serve a purpose (Jamil, Linsey, O'Connors) it's like he gets bored to quickly so decides to start something new with new people.
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Old 09-02-2011, 23:51
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Ive gone of it completly

Indias Murder is stupid
Over rated characters like ste and bredan are treated like messiah, when their stoyline is boring
editing is all the place
crap new characters
crap characters are still in there - duncan, gilly and the male student
Same old stroylines

Been a fan for a number of years but Im really thinking of switiching off.
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Old 09-02-2011, 23:54
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Totally agree with your points, especially the Sinead one.
OMG yes!! Sinead would make an amazing hot lesbian!
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Old 10-02-2011, 00:13
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OMG yes!! Sinead would make an amazing hot lesbian!
wouldnt suprise me, Hollyoaks havent done a lesbian storyline in a week... world record for them
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Old 10-02-2011, 00:21
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Giving the teen centric storylines to Esther and Ruby when Sinead would be a far better candidate!
Tbh I don't think Sinead would suit the Ricky/Esther thing as she's not a flirty type like Ruby, and definitely not flirty in the same way. And I don't think she'd be interested in Ricky....she has high standards, while Ruby just wants a guy to show her a good time.
Even when she had Bart she wanted to do something 'cool' like going for a drive!
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Old 10-02-2011, 00:23
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Hollyoaks has gone right downhill. I hope it is axed in the near future.
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Old 10-02-2011, 07:38
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Hollyoaks has gone right downhill. I hope it is axed in the near future.
That's a bit selfish is it not? You don't like it and think it's poor so therefore It should be axed! I don't watch or like Doctors but I don't want it to be axed because there's people who do enjoy it.
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Old 10-02-2011, 09:02
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I think it might be the reason that there wasn't a huge effort put in to keeping him around. He seems to be good at coming in with an oustiders P.O.V fixing things and leaving it at that.

He axed the right people, bought in some brilliant characters and ideas but once the dust had settled from all that it went a bit wrong, he's not good as a long-term producer because he's too over the top with things.

Everytime he gets a show he makes it into a new show in the same setting. I think perhaps execs clocked onto this around November. Everyone (except India and Anita) that was going had gone and it was around that time all the nonsense with chopping and changing things started, once all the 'major revamp' plans had taken part and it came down to running the show again.

It can be fixed, it's not damaged majorly but they just need to filter out some crap. Between the regular and recurring cast there's 60 people plus 3 returning and 3 arriving with no signs of any exits coming up.

They need to trim it back to 30 regulars (McQueens, Some of the students, Costellos, O'Connors, Osbournes, The Loft crew) and then do what BK done well and bring in characters for the story arcs they were involved in and dump them again after that.

We didn't need The O'Connors just yet they could've come in now and worked much better, it was too much change too quick and it hasn't allowed time for half the characters to serve a purpose (Jamil, Linsey, O'Connors) it's like he gets bored to quickly so decides to start something new with new people.
Realistically to cut the cast back to 30 they would need to go back to having Hollyoaks just 3 nights a week. However that would also cut out the need for a lot of the stupid filler storylines to pad things out to make enough programmes each week.

Also it would give time for the writers to get storylines right, as too many times it came across as storylines were poorly researched, or events changed to hammer square pegs into round holes to make things fit

Another benefit with less characters would be the need to replacing large amounts of cast each year giving their replacements more screen time to settle in and become popular.

If fear though time is running out for Hollyoaks as to much needs doing to fix the mistakes Marquess made last year.
There isn't the same amount of popular characters viewers like that there once was, while there are storylines at times that are far to sensationalist or major leaps of faith like brining back Warren, then have him wander about as if nothing ever happened.
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Old 10-02-2011, 11:56
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Me too, although I stopped watching about two years ago, and I caught a bit of the omnibus and I just found it terrible, poor acting and poor storylines. I also don't buy Ste being gay, he's been in it years and was an incredibly violent and controlling partner to Amy and now we're expected to believe he's gay. I don't think it's helped with this (from what I saw) 2D relationship with Brendan.
Must admit I assumed that the writers decided to make him gay when Kieron publicly announced HE was gay, and that it had never occurred to them to do it before then, cos, as you say, Ste has been in it since he was 15 or 16, he was obviously a sort of resident thug, who was psychotically controlling over his girlfriend Amy.
His problem (beating up Amy) obviously stems from his own battered childhood, but he's always only liked girls, never eyed up any boys, so when they made him gay it was a bit odd!

I mean, if he liked lads, why did he never try anything with his mate Justin?! lol
Suppose HO reasoning would be it had to be someone as controlling as Ste is that he would be attracted to, and no girl would dare do that, Amy certainly didn't, only another bloke - like Brendan.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:00
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Must admit I assumed that the writers decided to make him gay when Kieron publicly announced HE was gay, and that it had never occurred to them to do it before then, cos, as you say, Ste has been in it since he was 15 or 16, he was obviously a sort of resident thug, who was psychotically controlling over his girlfriend Amy.
His problem (beating up Amy) obviously stems from his own battered childhood, but he's always only liked girls, never eyed up any boys, so when they made him gay it was a bit odd!

I mean, if he liked lads, why did he never try anything with his mate Justin?! lolSuppose HO reasoning would be it had to be someone as controlling as Ste is that he would be attracted to, and no girl would dare do that, Amy certainly didn't, only another bloke - like Brendan.
Gay people don't fancy every boy tbh I think he's like Sian in CS, he loves Brendan, and if that makes him gay he's gay, but Brendan is his focus rather than necessarily being gay.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:08
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I haven't watched it since Luke died.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:34
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That's a bit selfish is it not? You don't like it and think it's poor so therefore It should be axed! I don't watch or like Doctors but I don't want it to be axed because there's people who do enjoy it.
I agree, but you'll learn that if people don't like something it should be axed, just like if someone doesn't like a character in a show, then they can't act to save their life, and should be axed.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:42
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I wholly agree with everything you've written, when I watch the show I still left wondering what is going on, the storylines are all over the place.

And the actors my god, that Ethan bloke and his girlfriend could they really not do any better and are we suppose to believe that his a detective he looks too young.

I only bother watching now for Darren or Mitzeee I record the eps and just fast forward too there bits the other storylines are just dull.
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Old 10-02-2011, 12:48
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Hollyoaks is so frustrating at the moment. Some days, it's absolutely fantastic, other days it's absolute rubbish. The editing is still shoddy, the continuity is still all over the place and the cast is absolutely massive and many of them serve no real purpose (Jamil, Lynsey, Ruby, Ricky, Finn, Ethan, Doug, Melody to name a few.) What really annoys me is you get characters who are front and centre of an entire week - only to disappear the week after (The O'Connors, for example, Darren, Nancy, Suzanne, etc).

On the plus side, I've loved Heidi and Myra together and Mitzeee is brilliant! (How brilliant was it when she told Brendan that she's Mitzeee to the outside world, but she'll always be Ann to her mates).
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Old 10-02-2011, 13:13
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It is such a shame because I honestly always haveloved HO, I revolve my evenings round watching it etc. But at the moment I am becoming disheartened. Everyone one raves about Ste and Brendan but I just don't buy it, Ste is suddenly gay is he?? And if it's the whole, I only love Brendan thing...yawn that is sooo Craig and JP!

Brendan I just don't get the love for, he isn't very good at acting, he is a cartoon villan at best the only time he works is with Warrena and MItzee, I don't buiy him being gay at all either!! PLus does he have to be in every other scene of every show??

Chopping and changes editring and cast is really getting me wound up, the never ending who shot Clavin saga is yawnsville and re unrealistic that Carmel hasn't shopped Tre!

Darren, Nancy and Silas are the only things are keeping going. (Can't even mention how angry I am at the treatment of India's murder SL)!
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