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You asked what the additional costs of running Radio 1 as compared to commercial radio were. I was just answering your question.
It was really @ Station ID who's response was the finance element. Moyles apart (given audience, not my appreciation) I can't see that the presenters are worth it, if they are paid highly. With a couple of exceptions, R1 presenters are it's weakest point. And I stand by my point that budget has nothing to do with music policy. |
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Capital is a London station,and most listeners understand that,that is why when they tune into it,they tune away again thinking its capital london,and not for their area.
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Capital is a London station,and most listeners understand that,that is why when they tune into it,they tune away again thinking its capital london,and not for their area.
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Moyles apart (given audience, not my appreciation) I can't see that the presenters are worth it, if they are paid highly. With a couple of exceptions, R1 presenters are it's weakest point.
And I stand by my point that budget has nothing to do with music policy. Anyway, more to the point, Radio 1 daytimes are not a particularly challenging listen. There's a lot of extremely familiar music in the mix that you'd hear on a station like Capital, albeit peppered by new music and genres you wouldn't hear on commercial radio. Radio 1 takes most of its risks at night. |
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But the other Radio 1 daytime presenters are also a massive draw. Fearne Cotton is a household name from TV.
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i think you'll find even the most avid r1 listener cant stand her...............really!
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i think you'll find even the most avid r1 listener cant stand her...............really!
As suprising and sad as this news is the core Radio 1 target audience love her, especially the girls. I'd love to see research on this but my gut feeling is that within the Radio core target she's as popular as Moyles. I'd say Moyles has broader appeal which is why he'd still have a higher overall audience. |
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Capital London aside... how much does Capital East Midlands stand out like a sore thumb for it's local presenters?
On Yorkshire, Manchester, Birmingham etc you have ex-Galaxy jocks who are reletively young, or at least come over the airwaves as young and really do connect with the young target audience... And then on Capital East Midlands, you have Twiggy who clearly sounds old on the airwaves, out of touch when it comes to Willow Smith and Katy B and should be back to playing more of the "Best of the 80's, 90's and Today" I know there was some form of loyalty by local controllers to give people similar roles at the Capital transformation, but when you consider the following: Hirsty's Daily Dose - appeals to young teens to late 20's Rob Ellis - appeals to young teens to late 20's Dan Kelly - appeals to young teens to late 20's And then, Twiggy and Emma - appeals more to the Over 30's with the conversations they have! Seriously, they are so out of touch with the audience they should be serving. It's like listening to your grandad playing your music and then rambling on into usual grandad coversation afterwards. |
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Capital London aside... how much does Capital East Midlands stand out like a sore thumb for it's local presenters?
On Yorkshire, Manchester, Birmingham etc you have ex-Galaxy jocks who are reletively young, or at least come over the airwaves as young and really do connect with the young target audience... And then on Capital East Midlands, you have Twiggy who clearly sounds old on the airwaves, out of touch when it comes to Willow Smith and Katy B and should be back to playing more of the "Best of the 80's, 90's and Today" I know there was some form of loyalty by local controllers to give people similar roles at the Capital transformation, but when you consider the following: Hirsty's Daily Dose - appeals to young teens to late 20's Rob Ellis - appeals to young teens to late 20's Dan Kelly - appeals to young teens to late 20's And then, Twiggy and Emma - appeals more to the Over 30's with the conversations they have! Seriously, they are so out of touch with the audience they should be serving. It's like listening to your grandad playing your music and then rambling on into usual grandad coversation afterwards. Meanwhile in the East Midlands the licenses were awarded for an older audience - under 44s in fact. Therefore they are completely in touch with the audience they should be serving, but may be out of touch with the audience Global have decided they would prefer to serve. |
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Capital London aside... how much does Capital East Midlands stand out like a sore thumb for it's local presenters?
On Yorkshire, Manchester, Birmingham etc you have ex-Galaxy jocks who are reletively young, or at least come over the airwaves as young and really do connect with the young target audience... And then on Capital East Midlands, you have Twiggy who clearly sounds old on the airwaves, out of touch when it comes to Willow Smith and Katy B and should be back to playing more of the "Best of the 80's, 90's and Today" I know there was some form of loyalty by local controllers to give people similar roles at the Capital transformation, but when you consider the following: Hirsty's Daily Dose - appeals to young teens to late 20's Rob Ellis - appeals to young teens to late 20's Dan Kelly - appeals to young teens to late 20's And then, Twiggy and Emma - appeals more to the Over 30's with the conversations they have! Seriously, they are so out of touch with the audience they should be serving. It's like listening to your grandad playing your music and then rambling on into usual grandad coversation afterwards. |
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You can expect a change of one Capital breakfast show this year.
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You can expect a change of one Capital breakfast show this year.
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hopefully it's not Hirsty!
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Definitely more than one.
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And then, Twiggy and Emma - appeals more to the Over 30's with the conversations they have! Seriously, they are so out of touch with the audience they should be serving. It's like listening to your grandad playing your music and then rambling on into usual grandad coversation afterwards.
Many CHR breakfast shows have a far wider spread of listeners than the rest of the station and it doesn't damage them. In the states Dave Ryan is another example of this, I think he still has the market leading breakfast show in the twin cities and he must be knocking on a bit now. The show still sounds good though. |
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Capital East Midlands had so many younger presenters to choose from using the staff of the old Hit Music Network.
If you were going for a really young sounding breakfast show then Dino & Pete would of been a better bet or Daimen & Naomi, not Twiggy & Emma. For drivetime, the double header doesn't work at all, Justin Walker from Trent FM drive (now at Mercia) or J, sorry Julian Jones would of been a better bet. |
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For drivetime, the double header doesn't work at all. They were retained to keep Ram FM clients happy (in fact, right up until the wire, Dino and Pete were set to go somewhere altogether different). |
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East Midlands needs to change. My personal shout would be for Steffan LaTouche, who was excellent on breakfast at Kix 96.2.
That said, I'm in London now and lift-share with a Capital FM listener. On a 15 minute drive Johnny & Lisa regularly only play one song. Given how little speech there is after 10am this seems odd. I don't expect 95.8 to change any time soon, but by God it's the worst processing I've ever heard. It's worse in London than it is in Leicester. Never in my life have I heard a top-end distort so badly! |
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They were retained to keep Ram FM clients happy.
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Am I to assume Leicester's clients were more muted?
RE: "Capital East Midlands needs to change". It will. Breakfast is obviously wrong for the station. It was a great show on Trent, because it bled Nottingham. People from outside the TSA always used to say they "didn't understand" why people fawned over Jo and Twiggy / Twiggy and Emma, and that's because it was SO Nottingham. It was part of the fabric of the city. It WAS Nottingham. Which isn't a great thing if you suddenly being to broadcast to the entire region (and remember - half of Twiggy's old act was slagging off Derby!) I would imagine Twiggy is signed up on quite a fat contract - which is why he's still there. For now, anyway. As for Dino and Pete - I wouldn't at all be surprised to see them, at some point over the next year, on a Capital Breakfast Show. Most likely the one they were intended for in the first place. |
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Meanwhile in the East Midlands the licenses were awarded for an older audience - under 44s in fact. Therefore they are completely in touch with the audience they should be serving, but may be out of touch with the audience Global have decided they would prefer to serve.
However, some posters here choose to interpret those format requirements as meaning stations are obliged to target everyone within the defined age range. That simply isn't the case. |
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. How old are Ryan Seacrest and Elvis Duran.
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It would be a shame to see Twiggy and Emma go, they are the only thing I listen to on 96.2 now.
Is it just me or did the Hit Music Network (well Leic Sound always sounded weak) actually manage to sound bigger and more upbeat than Capital does now? Its hard to describe but the news intro now has no oomph behind it at all and the old news outro with back to the hits faster etc sounded really polished in comparison. |
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It would be a shame to see Twiggy and Emma go, they are the only thing I listen to on 96.2 now.
Is it just me or did the Hit Music Network (well Leic Sound always sounded weak) actually manage to sound bigger and more upbeat than Capital does now? Its hard to describe but the news intro now has no oomph behind it at all and the old news outro with back to the hits faster etc sounded really polished in comparison. Plus the regional output and how it managed to sound local even when networked was brilliant and reminded me of the One Network / Mix Network days! I still think Capital is a bad move but it's not about what I think
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You are absolutely correct, yeah.
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Breakfast is obviously wrong for the station. It was a great show on Trent, because it bled Nottingham. People from outside the TSA always used to say they "didn't understand" why people fawned over Jo and Twiggy / Twiggy and Emma, and that's because it was SO Nottingham. It was part of the fabric of the city. It WAS Nottingham. I like that shout. The people in my household back home who listen to Capital love it but think "the Leicester Sound DJs were better, apart from the evening guy (Rich Clarke)."Which isn't a great thing if you suddenly being to broadcast to the entire region (and remember - half of Twiggy's old act was slagging off Derby!) I would imagine Twiggy is signed up on quite a fat contract - which is why he's still there. For now, anyway. As for Dino and Pete - I wouldn't at all be surprised to see them, at some point over the next year, on a Capital Breakfast Show. Most likely the one they were intended for in the first place. There may just be an element of truth in that. The main problem though is that 95.8 just doesn't scream London any more. Neither does Heart. And why the hell are they holding onto Crawley? There's no point it being either Heart or Capital as both London versions boom into Crawley loud and clear (Trust me, I live here now!) It's a huge waste of a license. |
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