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Capital FM Network (Part 2)
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Declan_McGrath1
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by MylesBaker:
“Marvin isn't showing up on the V Festival lineup? So presumably he will be on the Vodafone Big Top 40 as normal next Sunday.”

He is not on the main lineup, but there currently a compition on Capital at the moment where 1 person can Dj with him next Saturday.
Icaraa
14-08-2016
I thought I'd revisit this question. I'm looking for a Global fan to answer this because I can't figure it out.

Why do Global insist on pretending Capital is local during networked hours? Anyone who calls in is clearly briefed not to say where they're calling from. Texts and tweets never say where the person is from and the presenter never says he is in London.

My Mrs noticed this and asked me. So it's not just me. When you're talking about big cities like Capital Liverpool, Leeds, Edinburgh, Manchester we CAN obviously tell the presenter is not in our city. Why not just be honest about it?

I have no problem with the presenters being in London, it is our capital city. It's the deceit that winds me up, smart networking makes it worse "Whatssup Liverpool its Bass here, got some big tunes coming up your gunna love it arite?" We don't speak like that here I can tell you're in London mate!

I've never heard this in any other countries. You listen to Ryan Seacrest in the US and he's interested in where in the country people are calling in from. They don't try and hide that it's a networked show in any way.
radiolistener94
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by Icaraa:
“I thought I'd revisit this question. I'm looking for a Global fan to answer this because I can't figure it out.

Why do Global insist on pretending Capital is local during networked hours? Anyone who calls in is clearly briefed not to say where they're calling from. Texts and tweets never say where the person is from and the presenter never says he is in London.

My Mrs noticed this and asked me. So it's not just me. When you're talking about big cities like Capital Liverpool, Leeds, Edinburgh, Manchester we CAN obviously tell the presenter is not in our city. Why not just be honest about it?

I have no problem with the presenters being in London, it is our capital city. It's the deceit that winds me up, smart networking makes it worse "Whatssup Liverpool its Bass here, got some big tunes coming up your gunna love it arite?" We don't speak like that here I can tell you're in London mate!

I've never heard this in any other countries. You listen to Ryan Seacrest in the US and he's interested in where in the country people are calling in from. They don't try and hide that it's a networked show in any way.”

It's a good point, but I think it might have something to do with the location stations having their region in their title, like Capital Scotland, North East etc etc.

If each regional station just referred themselves as Capital - The UKs #1... then it'd make more sense to hear a caller from Liverpool on the South Coast, but having a competition winner on Capital Liverpool saying their from Glasgow just sounds a bit odd.

I think that makes sense.
Icaraa
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by radiolistener94:
“It's a good point, but I think it might have something to do with the location stations having their region in their title, like Capital Scotland, North East etc etc.

If each regional station just referred themselves as Capital - The UKs #1... then it'd make more sense to hear a caller from Liverpool on the South Coast, but having a competition winner on Capital Liverpool saying their from Glasgow just sounds a bit odd.

I think that makes sense.”

It doesn't make sense to me no, because I can tell the presenters aren't in Liverpool. Everyone in Liverpool already knows the station is national, so why would they think it would be odd if someone phoned in and said they were from Glasgow? It doesn't sound odd on Radio 1.
radiolistener94
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by Icaraa:
“It doesn't make sense to me no, because I can tell the presenters aren't in Liverpool. Everyone in Liverpool already knows the station is national, so why would they think it would be odd if someone phoned in and said they were from Glasgow? It doesn't sound odd on Radio 1.”

I was trying to get the point across that Radio 1 is marketed at Radio 1, not Radio 1 Liverpool, Radio 1 Newcastle etc etc.

I know many people, albeit not in liverpool, who listen to Capital who think the daytime presenters come from where they're listening,
Icaraa
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by radiolistener94:
“I was trying to get the point across that Radio 1 is marketed at Radio 1, not Radio 1 Liverpool, Radio 1 Newcastle etc etc.

I know many people, albeit not in liverpool, who listen to Capital who think the daytime presenters come from where they're listening,”

Yes exactly, are you in the south though?

You can't trick people in major northern cities (or major Scottish or Welsh cities) in that respect, the way we speak is just too different. Not just the accent, the words we use or don't use too.

Take my comparison with US stations, they keep their local branding even during networked shows. Same as Capital. So if you go to a commercial break in the Ryan Seacrest show you will hear your local jingles etc. So it's no different. The difference is that in the US during the actual shows they are quite open that they are broadcasting from LA for example and ask the callers where they are calling from.
Wizard
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by Icaraa:
“Yes exactly, are you in the south though?

You can't trick people in major northern cities (or major Scottish or Welsh cities) in that respect, the way we speak is just too different. Not just the accent, the words we use or don't use too.

Take my comparison with US stations, they keep their local branding even during networked shows. Same as Capital. So if you go to a commercial break in the Ryan Seacrest show you will hear your local jingles etc. So it's no different. The difference is that in the US during the actual shows they are quite open that they are broadcasting from LA for example and ask the callers where they are calling from.”

Interesting point - but what about the DJ's on City who aren't from Liverpool? Scott Hughes and Dave Kelly, for example.
stv viewer
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by Wizard:
“Interesting point - but what about the DJ's on City who aren't from Liverpool? Scott Hughes and Dave Kelly, for example.”

But thet are broadcasting from Liverpool
MylesBaker
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by radiolistener94:
“It's a good point, but I think it might have something to do with the location stations having their region in their title, like Capital Scotland, North East etc etc.

If each regional station just referred themselves as Capital - The UKs #1... then it'd make more sense to hear a caller from Liverpool on the South Coast, but having a competition winner on Capital Liverpool saying their from Glasgow just sounds a bit odd.

I think that makes sense.”

On The Big Top 40 callers are referred to as 'Steve in Glasgow' or 'Richard in Winchester'. However the show is the 'UK's Biggest Chart Show' and it makes sense as you point out.

The show is known as a network show; especially as it's previous name was 'The Network Chart Show'
MylesBaker
14-08-2016
Marvin's riding solo this afternoon on the Big Top 40 as Kat's at Boardmasters Festival.
Icaraa
14-08-2016
Originally Posted by MylesBaker:
“On The Big Top 40 callers are referred to as 'Steve in Glasgow' or 'Richard in Winchester'. However the show is the 'UK's Biggest Chart Show' and it makes sense as you point out.

The show is known as a network show; especially as it's previous name was 'The Network Chart Show' ”

Big Top 40 is different. I'm talking about the networked shows that go out across Capital only.

Originally Posted by Wizard:
“Interesting point - but what about the DJ's on City who aren't from Liverpool? Scott Hughes and Dave Kelly, for example.”

That's fine, they're in Liverpool and possibly live there. This could apply to any major UK city, don't think I'm making this about Liverpool. It's maybe more apparent in places like Liverpool and Leeds where the accents are stronger though.

It probably doesn't help that Global don't make any attempt to put anyone on the networked shows with any kind of accent. Every single person they hire seems to have a generic south eastern accent. They waste good people like Baz Todd on local stations, get him on the national feed. He's great!
MylesBaker
15-08-2016
Capital's Sunday night schedule shows as follows:

4-7 The Vodafone Big Top 40 With Marvin Humes
7-11 Roman Kemp
11-12 Aimie Vivian (I imagine Aimie is on later than just for an hour).

Question is, have Capital ditched the Throwback hour or are the alterations because Marvin is off and the top 40 hasn't been updated yet?
Declan_McGrath1
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by MylesBaker:
“Capital's Sunday night schedule shows as follows:

4-7 The Vodafone Big Top 40 With Marvin Humes
7-11 Roman Kemp
11-12 Aimie Vivian (I imagine Aimie is on later than just for an hour).

Question is, have Capital ditched the Throwback hour or are the alterations because Marvin is off and the top 40 hasn't been updated yet?”

It's a bug in the website data, as this morning on my local capital breakfast they where doing Capital Throwback, as For Roman kemp it states that JJ is filling in for him but the website I'm sure will correct it self during the week.
MylesBaker
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Declan_McGrath1:
“It's a bug in the website data, as this morning on my local capital breakfast they where doing Capital Throwback, as For Roman kemp it states that JJ is filling in for him but the website I'm sure will correct it self during the week.”

Yes I know they do it from 9-9:40 on Breakfast, but I'm talking about Marvin's 7-8 Throwback hour. That explains it then if there's a bug.

I wondered why is was 7-11 rather than 8-12 or 7-10.

But didn't you say Marvin is off this Sunday or was that not proven?
Declan_McGrath1
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by MylesBaker:
“Yes I know they do it from 9-9:40 on Breakfast, but I'm talking about Marvin's 7-8 Throwback hour. That explains it then if there's a bug.

I wondered why is was 7-11 rather than 8-12 or 7-10.

But didn't you say Marvin is off this Sunday or was that not proven?”

There still doing the throwback hour on a Sunday 7 till 8 pm, as far as I'm aware Marvin is still listed this Sunday although this could change but he is djing in V festival this weekend weather it's 1 day (the Saturday) or both nights.
davies88
15-08-2016
Last Friday I listened to Capital over two hours around Midday. For that time, Capital sounded really fresh and they played some great tunes. At the breaks, I had a quick listen into Radio 1, and every time I tuned in except once, it was just dreary talk.

If Capital could just cut some of the crap out like Little Mix and Bieber, it would be a perfect listen. Obviously they wouldn't do that, because their main target audience loves them.

But back to the point, Capital was putting out some banging tunes for a Friday daytime, while Radio just sounded so dull. Never been a fan of R1 though, except for the old stool Friday and Saturday nights.
Hitmusic
15-08-2016
Originally Posted by Icaraa:
“I thought I'd revisit this question. I'm looking for a Global fan to answer this because I can't figure it out.

Why do Global insist on pretending Capital is local during networked hours? Anyone who calls in is clearly briefed not to say where they're calling from. Texts and tweets never say where the person is from and the presenter never says he is in London.

My Mrs noticed this and asked me. So it's not just me. When you're talking about big cities like Capital Liverpool, Leeds, Edinburgh, Manchester we CAN obviously tell the presenter is not in our city. Why not just be honest about it?

I have no problem with the presenters being in London, it is our capital city. It's the deceit that winds me up, smart networking makes it worse "Whatssup Liverpool its Bass here, got some big tunes coming up your gunna love it arite?" We don't speak like that here I can tell you're in London mate!

I've never heard this in any other countries. You listen to Ryan Seacrest in the US and he's interested in where in the country people are calling in from. They don't try and hide that it's a networked show in any way.”

Bassman isn't actually from London
Icaraa
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hitmusic:
“Bassman isn't actually from London”

Hahaha, I love how that's your reply to all that!
Ok, well he sounds it to me. Where is he from? They all just sound "southern" to me. I couldn't say where exactly, just the south somewhere.

Same as how if you heard me you'd think I was from Liverpool. Even though actually I don't have a strong accent, and I'm not from Liverpool and don't live there.
Hitmusic
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Icaraa:
“Hahaha, I love how that's your reply to all that!
Ok, well he sounds it to me. Where is he from? They all just sound "southern" to me. I couldn't say where exactly, just the south somewhere.

Same as how if you heard me you'd think I was from Liverpool. Even though actually I don't have a strong accent, and I'm not from Liverpool and don't live there.”

The north of England has so many different totally different accents it's fascinating. I guess to most southerners all sound the same. But I can tell the difference, like here in London, someone from west London has a different accent to somone from north London. Same as someone from Brighton doesn't sound the same as soemone from Hastings!
omnidirectional
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by davies88:
“Last Friday I listened to Capital over two hours around Midday. For that time, Capital sounded really fresh and they played some great tunes. At the breaks, I had a quick listen into Radio 1, and every time I tuned in except once, it was just dreary talk.”

That's what puts me off Radio 1, it often seems like talk is more important than music.
radiolistener94
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by davies88:
“Last Friday I listened to Capital over two hours around Midday. For that time, Capital sounded really fresh and they played some great tunes. At the breaks, I had a quick listen into Radio 1, and every time I tuned in except once, it was just dreary talk.

If Capital could just cut some of the crap out like Little Mix and Bieber, it would be a perfect listen. Obviously they wouldn't do that, because their main target audience loves them.

But back to the point, Capital was putting out some banging tunes for a Friday daytime, while Radio just sounded so dull. Never been a fan of R1 though, except for the old stool Friday and Saturday nights.”

They've just started doing a 30minute mix-block at 1o'clock on Friday and it sounds SO hot, Capital seem to be listening to what people want, a bit more variety of music across the day (albeit not loads), the Throwback sticking around, and now the mix block. Seems like someone is doing their job right
Icaraa
16-08-2016
Originally Posted by Hitmusic:
“The north of England has so many different totally different accents it's fascinating. I guess to most southerners all sound the same. But I can tell the difference, like here in London, someone from west London has a different accent to somone from north London. Same as someone from Brighton doesn't sound the same as soemone from Hastings!”

I fan tell the difference with the various London accents. But some people live in the East End and don't have the accent! So you can never be sure. Some people who have weaker accents would sound southern (barth instead of bath. larrtay instead of latte etc!) but you couldn't place them exactly.

Your last example, I wouldn't have a clue. Brighton and Hastings would sound the same to me. Just like people from parts of Cheshire. Not close enough to Liverpool to pick up that accent, not close enough to Manchester to pick up that. They just sound "northern".

Originally Posted by radiolistener94:
“They've just started doing a 30minute mix-block at 1o'clock on Friday and it sounds SO hot, Capital seem to be listening to what people want, a bit more variety of music across the day (albeit not loads), the Throwback sticking around, and now the mix block. Seems like someone is doing their job right”

1pm?
radiolistener94
17-08-2016
Originally Posted by Icaraa:
“1pm?”

Yeah, handing over to Bass then going in the mix. sounds hot!
Sophie_Greene
17-08-2016
radiolistener94 you and Hitmusic will get on like a house on fire
suffolkblue
17-08-2016
To be fair to them both I'm liking capital and I'm not even in their age target range. The only downside for me is its not available here in the east in FM so can only listen via DAB or app.
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